Also there is another junky material besides stones — nuts. They are piling up as high as trees grow.
Developers might add some kind of... Nuttella XD so nuts can be used to feed that 'folks'.
Another bug: cows can be stuck in certain locations. They can't eat grass normally in an outlined area.
Cows get `stuck` if they cross an invisible region vaguely marked with yellow. I can move them outside this region and they begin eat as normal, untill they hang up again there. The cows to the right don't suffer of such reasons at all, and that's why there are twice as more cows there :D
They also can be stuck after eating straw if it was placed outside a grass field. But it happens randomly, at 50% chance or less, but it can't be unnoticed.
And, yet another bug: after some time, all the cows begin to fear the straw! O_O They come closer to it and then dash back like it was some kind of threat. Then they begin to eat simple grass nearby. It doesn't happen randomly and this is a constant behavior. But I can't determine when exactly cows get strawphobia.
Can confirm another spot (will upload screenshot soon screenshot added, area affect highlighted) on the field beside the starter forest area the side closet to the forest cows get stuck in as well... it is a bit annoying especially since they keep doing their "moo" noise. And after further testing I have found that in that field it only affects that ONE square...
Cow behaviour is a little unrefined at the moment :) So basically they like to eat cereal and straw the most. They're attracted to it more than grass so if they see some they will try to go for it first but if they're inside a pen and can't reach it they just get 'stuck' in the same place and do nothing.
The other thing you're seeing is cows are afraid of the player or any bot holding a stick like tool. You can chase them out of your fields with tools and sticks. So they're probably near a worker that isn't moving away and getting constantly scared of it.
Thanks!
I think we got some buggy problem here, after the update some bots can't handle a repeat untill storge is full with a repeat in it with "until hands are full" and "untill they are empty" they don't do anything and the Arrow in the Programm is flickering while the Storage got planty of space left.
And as shown in the first Picture the Bots that plant Seeds on the Weeded Soil are Stuck on the first Soil patches and ignor all other Weeded Soil that is available. So i have to plant atm manually.
And at some spots the Weed-Tint is removed but not the Plant so thair are multiple on some Spots.
For a better understanding i recreat the Code that is Flickering and for the Sake of understanding, becaus it is to fast to make a propper Screenshot, i added the missing second Arrow at the bottom in. Basicly the both positions are stuck with the Arrow is jumpunkt between them and teh bot does nothing.
I see i uploadet the wrong code xD
The Game is realy easy to understand, so the Discord wuld not change that Problem, a simple fix is removing the repeat with the Storage check for the Plank and Pole production, The Seeding is a very Simple Code and they got stuck on 2-6 Soil to work on and do mostly nothing.
Ok now that you have uploaded those final screenshots I can confirm you are NOT experiencing a bug. (If you read the changelog) The repeat until storage full command works at 95% of the storage capacity (useful for small storages and taking out items) and 95% of 400 is 380.
TL:DR Everything is fine in terms of storage
I think I've found a bug, the repeat x times works fine when I use it inside an infinite or another loop but when the repeat x times is the outer loop ( I wanted a worker bot to create 4 other bots and no more than that ) the worker bot doesn't stop making other bots and the repeate x times becomes an infinite loop.
I am experiencing a GUI bug with the new beacon setting, when you put a "Find nearest Basic Workerbot" inside one loop (in my case a "Forever", haven't tested with "Repeat", but it should happen to every "Find xxx" if you insert enough "repeat"s) you can no longer klick on the "beacon selector button" (see pic below...)
Just as a suggestion, I know you changed the full/not full from 100% to 95%. Is there a way you could make that number editable, such that I could tell a specific robot to wait until say 98% or 92%? And could you also try to make a similar thing but for empty/not empty where it'd be 5%? You might need a check in there to make sure the player isn't setting the numbers wrong, though...
I purchased Autonauts when it was version 4, because the core concept is very charming.
But with automisation being the key feature, I find it frustrating that the code doesn't fit the window as soon as loops are added. This is becoming more of an issue now with nested loops. I understand that you have lots of plans and that you can only ever do one thing at a time. But isn't coding the bots the main point of the game? Wouldn't you agree that legible code matters more than anything at this stage? Even if the current graphics for it are a placeholder? A wider window would take up too much room. But you're wasting so much valuable space inside that window with clunky graphics. Screen space is a very valuable commodity!
And the red "recording" background is strenuous. Imagine, you'd have to write your code on a red background and you'll get the idea.
Flashing is also strenuous and should be reserved for messages which require immediate attention. The flashing icons over the cows are an example of bad use of a flashing message. The milk icon is quite sufficient to inform the player.
And you have beautiful icons for every item. Wouldn't they be a good means to avoid this sort of mess in the inventory?
Sorry about sounding "bossy". I don't mean to. I'm just trying to be clear and explain my opinion well. It's nevertheless just my personal opinion.
No need to apologize ;-)
I agree with your "everybody finds different things important" statement.
It is just my personal belief that the UI matters most, particularly in entertainment software. Because the UI is what any player interacts with all the time. It's the same with tools: if a tool fits your hands well, working with it is a joy. If the grip hurts because of it's awkward shape, your work is painful.
I strongly believe that good access to the available features is of greater importance than additional features. Five easy to use features give me more joy than ten inaccessible features. (I know I'm exaggerating.)
That being said, I love the humorous appearance of your game. I'm impressed by what you've accomplished in the past two weeks. And I'm glad I discovered Autonauts. It's fun to play and I'm very curious as to where it will go.
@ Dev's ... So is the Update causing me lags or stuttering or do i have to much... for the unity Engine?
I mean, Win10, 64Bit, 8 Cores @ 25% , 16GB Ram @ 80%, 2.274 TFLOPS - 1GB - DX11 @ 42% (i know the GPU is lame old granny with 8 years but it handels so much Games today.) that all shuld easely handle the Game. ;)
I always Run 1920 x 1080 @ Fantastic, i think i only set it to fantastic once in the manual loadet 64bit version and the 32bit and the itch.io app always used these settings.
I think this could be that my SSD was crowded and only got 3gb left. I will look into it after doing my mails. The System is cleaned atm. ;)
Just a thought cabal, you might want to get a hard drive and put ALL your games and files on there, but keep the operating system on your ssd. you're lag issues are from the ssd. if it is over half full the ssd starts slowing down. investing in any size hard drive to put games and stuff on will greatly help you. and with files i mean documents, desktop, etc. i can give you some instuctions on how to do that if you would like. it will certainly help. i did it to mine and it's running twice as fast.
When I loaded my save my autonaut suddenly doesn't want to pick up any items. The bots who have to find an item and than pick it up can't either. When I check their programs it seems like they find the item but they simply can't pick it up.
btw: everything is fine when they have to pick up something from storage.
Ok this was a bug in 6.0 and 6.1. If you update to 6.2 it shouldn't happen anymore. Also I've fixed your old level file so you can keep going.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3te0r6i2c6j1tq4/V6.txt?dl=0
Thanks
For some reason my pickerupper bots have decided to run back and forth between my two cereal farms. Instead of just gathering the nearest 6 cereal and popping it into storage, they're getting maybe 2 or 3, then running past the fertilizer/windmill to the other field and getting one, and then running back twice more, then delivering. Their orders are as follows:
REPEAT(hands full) find, move to, pick up cereal
REPEAT(hands empty) move to storage, drop off cereal
on forever ^^
I dunno if it's a pathing algorithm, but they are most definitely not looking for the "nearest" cereal...
Can you add the 4 bars of inventory on screen as hud and stack item in those 4 slots? like having different tools or the same tools on the bar at the same times, because press , is kind of inconvenient. Add a feature where you spawn on a random island that's big enough to begin with when create new world.
I have an issue where a worker bot can't be charged from inside of a building. The recharge bot wouldn't react to it and the farmer can't interact with it at all. I tried recharging the bot with empty hands, but I just grabbed from the fertilizer storage. I tried with items in my hands, nothing. I tried these both while having the whistle blown, nothing. I fear if I can't retrieve the bot then poor Chinsuko will starve :(
I started the game for today an hour ago and reload it two times, to realise that these cereal crops don't grow fully like they are just planted on weeded Soil. After someone wrote it here i realised that fertilizer brings me the missed use for that hoe. So i set everythin up for that new discovery and all fields wehre fully grown the first minutes. now i realise after some game hours from jesterday thes bots only worked on that small part.
i can manual cut the cereals to get the bots working again on that fertile soil, but that shuldn happen.
and now that i know to fertilise may farm i can clearly see all the soil patches that are buggey and fifteen is much more as i thought the first time i report that.
just for you, an update on my world. xD
i think the weed is only partial fixed for my old world and the cows only eat gras atm. and the straw... well i think i got alot to feed them and 1k in storage... ^^ cereals are also available for my cows, see that two small stacks? that are the cereals i mention for my cows + 1k in Storage. :'D
Edit: Also that delicious Apple Pie-Stream... JUMMY
https://we.tl/YqFAek2rt0 here it is! Sorry about delay, only got compy back today. Been talking from mobile
I've got some funky stuff going on with the cereal planters - got a nice big patch of fertilized and tilled soil... But when I tell them to go find nearest free spot, they plant *one* seed and hang up. The cereal grows beneath them, gets cut and only *then* they deign to go plant the next spot.
Are they thinking that the planted ground they're standing on is the closest tilled soil or something?
It was in 6.2, save continued from about v3, but I reprogrammed the planters in version 5 I think? Here's the script, he was just endlessly cycling through the three steps of find-move-plant
Hmmm, I just erased him and gave him the exact same steps and he now plants them properly. All other planters on the save still glitching.
So looks like the bug just held on from the older version?
I see the behavior ardynor describes, however 6.2 is the first and only version I've had. I waited a while longer, perhaps, than ardynor and saw that eventually the bot does move on. Breaking the cycle, e.g., by putting in a moveto coords, does not workaround the issue as the bot just retargets the same spot, which is now not plantable is cycles through the list of actions again. That is, I tried the program ardynor shows and a whole mess of others, any that find and move to tilled soil present this issue.
Oh and now a new thing.
So I decided to auto-build a bridge.
And then make it extra bridgey.
Unfortunately, the bots did not take well to the experiment.
The nice convex portion in the middle went smoothly. But after fourth and fifth row, their little minds started to break. They stop placing parts and just... walk away. Into top left corner of the map. Here's two 'pilgrims'.
There also is a third one that got much closer.
After a recharge, two of them settled down in a corner while one came back to work. I was just about to say that somehow it seems to only affect plank and pole bots, but here my log placing bot went off too. Buut one of the previously stuck bots came back.
So yeah. Fun.
@Denki: pls remeber the last pos of the find near an beacon and search form there...cause when the little bots are more away form the mid-point (where the beacon is) they e.g. go on the top and the down and then top...go on go on and that is really anoying cause the battery drain...
i hope i could discribe my problem/idea in hopefully good english...forgive me ;D
Finki
I am not sure if this is a bug but I created a crude workerbot (Hedy) to specifically charge only Basic Workerbot. However, I noticed that it still trying to charge other Crude workerbot. I tried resetting Hedy's instruction already (removing all instruction) but still no good.
I am not sure if this is already reported or not. If it is I am very sorry.
And thank you for the nice game.
this game is amazing and has a lot of potential. it's like factorio but i'm fine with that, it adds other mobs to deal with and it's great! i do have 1 request that we can code bots using python, like if then else, or something like that, maybe an option to have a specific code where we can type it in or the normal way to code it, idk, whatever is easier. anyways.
so i told the bot to go to where my seeds are kept, pick up 5 and take it to the seedling tray, and repeat that 3 times, then go to the fertiliser storage and pick up 5 fertiliser and put it into the seedling tray. instead it went and picked 5 seeds, took it to the tray, did it again, so far so good. did it again, still good, then it did it again. didn't go to the next step which is to pick up fertiliser.. either i'm a numpty and screwed up or this is a bug, i am using the crude robots though
Below is the code i used when i found this bug:
|====forever
| |=====repeat 3 times
| | go to general storage (tree seed)
| | |======repeat 5 times
| | | take from general storage (tree seed)
| | |======
| | go to seedling tray
| | |======repeat until hand empty
| | |put into seedling tray
| | |======
| |=====
| go to fertiliser storage
| |======repeat 5 times
| | take from fertiliser storage
| |======
| go to seedling tray
| |======repeat until hand empty
| |put into seedling tray
| |======
|====
oh ok, well i hope to see it resolved soon. But seriously, more options for coding bots would be fantastic. Some people could really go nuts with typing the code in and stuff. I personally find it more appealing to type code in myself and it will serve as a learning tool for people to learn how basic python coding works. If it isn't added it's not a big deal. This game is amazing and i would love to donate but sadly i don't have access to my bank account yet
Good evening, I have some suggestions for the game:
Some wonky things I was able to do:
When is put repeat puttting things in workbench or saw until a storage is full, it doesn't work. One example is that when I program a bot to put logs in bench saw until a pole storage is full in forever, it just shows a arrow going from repeat to forever. The bot just stays there. Also is there gonna be an enemy in game or a story/quest in game
@ Dev's
i have a bug - i think at last.
my bots that uses buckets are always stuck at theit destinated storages at the last step Add to Milk/Water Storage with thair empty Bucket after loading the Game. The Script is short and easy so this time only Text.
In a Forever loop:
Find nearest Cow (Full)
Move to Cow
Use held Item
Move to Milk Storage
Add to Milk Storage
it looks like it is working now in 7.1 or it comes from space spamming if i need to find the right bot when they are in the same spot.
so as a suggestion, how about ther nametags also show ther tool and if multible bots are at the same spot their Tags will stack ontop of each other so we can clearly see them? i always search long for my wood chopping bot between the trees. ;)
and while my mind is going, how about a locate button underneeth the close button in the teaching screen. if a bot runs away becaus you are not want to stop them right away from work, just want to look into the code - and then you need to search for the bot. that can get messy if he is stoppet under a tree or behind and so on.
I build manual 4 Bots but well ... i think something went wrong. I noticed that and decide to place each bot separately.
can't figure it out but i think these are a bit too much, three of them are are not in line because i realised that nice happening after starting to setup bot 4. top left of the red marking is bot 4 that i build as planed. all other are duplicates.
yes, i do only build 4 because it's not possible atm that x times works inside an x times command so i'm not using that bot and build them right away by myself. most of them also have no names, that i think is also not possible because i already do have some bots with the same name.
I updated the save file on my google drive with a version 2 of that save with that bots, if you like to look at that mess. i will wait for you and if you like to, this version is my latest so if it is possible and not to much to ask, that version can be fixed with that weed problem. Thanks. :D
As you wish, here you go. + Edit in the post before.
Edit: If you Read that part at the Top, yes i do have a nearly 8 year old GPU. x'D Can't wait to get my Hands on a Threadripper and RX Vega.
An unofficial one but yes, there is! https://john-games.itch.io/unofficial-autonauts-level-editor
Thanks for helping everyone out on Itch btw! If you want you could join our Discord server and speak to others about Autonauts :)
there is a bug, the bot for some reason never leaves the first 4 times loop, it just makes butter for days lol
program:
forever{
while(storage.butter == not.Full){
for(var i = 1; i <= 4; i++){
for(var a = 1; a <= 2; a++){
cycle.Down();
move.MilkStorage;
add.MilkStorage;
}
for(var b = 1; b <= 2; b++){
move.ButterChurn;
add.ButterChurn;
cycle.Down();
}
stow();
}
for(var c = 1; c <= 4; c++){
find.Near(butter);
move.butter;
pickup.butter;
}
while(held !== null){
move.GeneralStorage;
add.GeneralStorage
}
}
}
also i can confirm it runs fabulous on kubuntu 16.04 with onboard graphics
Hello! I think I have found a bug: when my robot was about to chop out a tree I wanted to teach him new stuff and the tree wasn't fully chopped out, the log itself was still in the soil. I can't do anything with it, I can't finish the job.
After returning in the game the log wasn't there anymore but the place of the tree was there. Can't do anything about it.
A botlist with (energy) status, active task, 'go to' button. The selected bot should also be highlighted on the map that hopefully is comming.
How about an option to decrease the range for pickup things so "factorysets" dont interfare?
Visualization for benches what they produce, an icon over the bench (could be ugly) or some additional details on the bench.
I dont know what you planned for bots but for charing i like to have fast bots and strong bots for storagework. And what advanced bots could do i cant imagine yet.
In 4 games i only build 2 crude bots. It shouldn't be possible to skip the "tier 1"-part of a game?!
Same for totems an Area of Effect: "+X time to become hungry" and Beacons "+Movementspeed".
Some great ideas here. Some of them we've already got on our list. If you want to what we have so far you can view it here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1btXfrrRUyzqnH7Ce6kNGWe19pWT7bYGqMbLAqdHH...
Only saw so far the list is not short but more brainstorming is going on:
- stone walking paths (or deco floors when bots can use scooter ;))
- Electric bots powerd by a network of beaconlike poles. The power is provided by using charcoal and water in a steamboiler.
- To add a kind of progress there could be a reseachtable used by an advanced bot. For that bot you'll need glass (diggin+smelting sand). Maybe there could be different tiers of reseach, so its possibly necessary to reseach the refining of metal/glass first.
Damn, i got nothing new :(
I didn't see stone/metal storages for more/most capacity.
When you add nighttime u have to add lightsources too (torches or lampposts that needs coal as fuel and electric lamps for lategame).
And when there are hostile creatures we'll need military bots (melee+archer) to protect the villagers. Midgame military bots could have crossbows, shield/armor, maybe cavallary (horsebreeding?). Guns can be for lategame depending on the hostiles. ;)
dunno if someone found it before me, but when creating a loop with X times within a loop for X times, the outer loop will run indefinitely.
example:
2 times[
2 times[
do X]
do y]
you might wanna try that. had a robot set up to make other robots, but only four at a time. ended up with an army of robots :D
EDIT:
i scrolled up a bit. someone else already reportet it.
i also had a hard time starting new because the tree seeds disappeared before i had time to make a workerbot to assign him to collect them. had to chop down an additional forest for new tree seeds to kickstart my tree farm :D
Hello,
For me cereal planting is bugged in 7.1 ( the worker stays in the same spot, plants, waits for the plant to grow and be harvested, plants again). Cereal seed planting works well.
I think he still sees that stop as a weeded soil as it keeps looping " Find nearest Weeded Soil" "Move to Weeded Soil".
I will do that as soon as i get home.
Also you where asking about a usage for the IF/ELSE statement. I would love that as it would allow me to tech them to get resources from the nearest general storage or from them ground instead of walking half a map when there is a log or something else next to the autobot.
I have tried to automate the production of buckets but it wont let me. The bot moves to General Storage but doesnt pick up anything but moves to basic workbench and gets stuck here. Also when I was fixing this I seemed to have some "ghost" item in my hand as i was unable to pick anything up and i had to drop this "ghost" item on the group to fix it
Awesome game. Love the concept. On the bridges everything levetates for me but the ramps up to bridges are good. also the trees grow kinda wierd with the final growth step being lower than the preivious. looks cool tho and i don't mind it. being able to interact in the freecam would be cool. also a first person mode would be neat. thanks for the awesome game.
the following are not bugs but ideas. could the water start off being discovered or able to be discovered from the land as it is quite difficult to bridge and it makes the map look wierd. in the script for recharging a bot, it specifies crude or basic but they will do both anyway. maybe 'recharge bot' instead would be better. i like how the bots slow down as the battery becomes flat - that is a really cool feature. items in the inventory and not in the hands could change the speed of movement. also holding a 'heavy' items (which you can only hold one off in hands) could slow down movement by more than 1 'light' item does (light - can hold 4 in hand).
please allow bots to carry others. i left the game running over dinner and have spent 20 mins manually moving bots and i don't know how much longer i will need to do it for to get to the basic bots. also i made a few hundred crude bots and the new ones with no name don't follow their script or do anything. kinda my fault for letting it run too long but a little annoying. any solutions before i start over? folks should not always sit in the same direction. in the huts it looks wierd.
Hi, there seems to be a bug in the pathfinder, after building a bridge to the island on the west, at least 4 of my robots end up going all the way to the upper right corner of the map while looking for the closest item, including 3 cases that have a beacon nearby (foundation seeking builder-bots) and one that doesn't (a clay pot pickup bot).
Hello!
First of all, it is my birthday this Sunday and it would be the best present ever if my favourite game, Autonauts, would be updated on my birthday. Please!
Now, onto the bugs:
I have found a bug which I have found on v8 macOS and v6 windows 64bit (I have only checked on these versions, it is likely that it is in other versions too) where a tree has the effect on it of a mouse hovering over it, so the leaves turn a lighter colour. This is fixed by hovering the mouse over the tree and moving it away again, but eventually another tree will have the same effect.
Also, I have found a rock that naturally spawned inside a mushroom, so the mushroom looks like it has spikes on it.
I don't know if this is a bug or not but I found a folk doing a handstand.
Think I found a bug, maybe. Everything disappeared from the world. Trees, buildings, grass, weeds, crops, folk, everything but the player. Weeds eventually started growing on soil, but otherwise the world was empty. This happened in 7.1 (screen shot is from 8.1, but it looks the same).
I was not sure I should report this because I did edit my save. I changed the names of the bots but nothing else. It is possible I made a mistake, but not likely. The edited save worked for a few days, and I have versions of the save that are still working.
Me and the Weeds
I have a bug
If you program a bot to use a beacon and then pick up the beacon and move your player and don't put it down, the bot still finds stuff in the place the beacon used to be.
It would be awesome if the bot would find stuff in an area around the player/bot that picked it up.
Also, can you please delay the update to be on Sunday not Friday because it is my birthday then.
Btw I have played this game from v4
I'm not completely sure if this is a bug or a feature, but here goes nothing:
I cant seem to change my crude robots original "sensing area" (or "work area") whatever it is called, not by changing by teaching it anything new, no nothing :( I just started so its only running a very simple "find tree in area, chop it, do forever" kinda script.
Also while I'm posting anyway, It might be nice with a simple UI thing that lets you know whether a building needs flooring or not, it was quite confusing at first. (The buildings that dont need floor should possibly also be able to be placed on flooring, just for looks :) ).
Regards Jule.
Both good points.
The Find Nearest area centers around where you teach the bot so by re-teaching in a different place, you'll set a new area. Also you can use a Beacon to specify an area. Just click the "?" symbol on the Find Nearest instruction and select the Beacon.
Yes buildings that require flooring are not clear at all. This is something we'll fix in a future version.
Thanks
if you use windows then download the new version, go to C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\LocalLow\Denki\Autonauts amd take take <your world's name>.txt and put it in the Autonauts file, under the app and not in the data.
if you use macOS then you will need to right click (or press with 2 fingers on the trackpad) on the old version, select the second option (Show Package Contents) and then select <your world's name>.txt
put that in a place that you would be able to find it, download the new version, right click on it, select the second option and put <your world's name>.txt BELOW the file called contents, NOT in it.
if you use linux, well, i don't know.
on windows there is a way easier way to do this.
First go into the new version of the game that you downloaded then press escape then click the load button. After you have click on this C: ( should be on the side bar) and find user. Then find your username. Once done find app data then go localLow then Denki then Autonauts. Your save file should be somewhere in there.
I have something to I want to be added to the game, better workerbots the crafting recipe could be something like this
Number of metal gear(s) Number of metal plate(s) Number of metal rod(s) = Expert Bot
EDIT:One thing is never enough, so I got more. one thing is you need a better Worker assembler (maybe call it a warehouse or a factory) to craft these new bots, another thing is you could upgrade your Bot at the Worker assembler and not need a warehouse or factory (whichever one you choose to name this possible structure.) and it will cost a lot
Ok, so i just installed the latest version on my MacBook, and there a very annoying bug that pretty much makes the game unplayable. Unless I am alinged in a specific way with a world chunk, there is weird blue overlay on top of that chunk. And it occurs most of the time. It doesn't seem to flicker but it does seem to depend on the angle you look at it from. It is also rendered above the ground, but not enough to cover items and the player. I have a feeling it might have to do with my Intel Graphics, let me not try to describe it, have a look for yourselves. And if you care there is a screenshot of my specs in there too.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B73mEiKFTk4dQkYxNVVONHpKR28
And if you think the screenshots aren't enough, I could upload a video to YT. Just tell me.
I edited the video to give a little more context, bucause i forgot to setup the audio recording. Also notice how the "Made with with UNITY" appears for a bit after it has faded completly. I don't know if that happens on other computers, but I thought I'd point that out. Don't mind the stuttering, it's just the recording.
First of all Autonauts is a great game and I like it.
I played version 9.1 and I think there are some things that need to added the game
- Grouping buildings and items.
- Some sort of achievement for unlocking buildings. because having all building at the start is confusing.
- Game need day, night, season, climate, rain, snow and …
it is boring with out these and less challenging.
- Add more modeling. for example the Flour model and Charcoal is a simple cube or Wooden Shovel and Wooden Axe are very similar.
- The color and modeling of most buildings is not good, These colors just doesn’t look right. Generally the game need more color and wise choosing.
- There isn’t harmony between models style. for example compare Boulder with Grass
- Drag and drop from inventory for dropping an item.
- Bot programs need if statement something like this: if cant find Crude Shovel pick up Wooden Shovel
- Bot program need something like: wait for 10 second
- Design of menus isn’t beautiful.
- Does robots really need inventory?
- Add something to inventory for building Crude Axe. The way of combining Stone with Stick is not the best way to do that
- Showing how much left to break a tool in inventory or model.
- Use color image for General Storage
- Rotating building blueprints with mouse
- Rotating camera with arrow keys
- It is better to program bots with flowchart
I've found a bug in version 9.1. I've looked through the past couple pages of this thread and didn't see it being previously reported, but I could have missed it.
When two bots are set to place an object into a currently-full storage, and you take one object out of the storage, only one succeeds in placing the object in storage, but they both move to the next task in their program, so the other bot is still holding an object and its program gets thrown off. (My two bots are at separate storage boxes, in case that's important.)
Omg yea! that's a great idea roger. denki you should make the buglist a public document so that users know which bugs have already been reported and also have a link to the original person thay found the bug, so that we can see the original screenshots and videos posted with it. and if the bug is to be fixed or currently is investigated, you should also have that noted there. preferably it should be a google document (my opinion) which you can just open up in a browser.
Hey
I think you should add resolution options to the game, for those who want to play at a lower resolution
Even the game being extremely lightweight, in pcs like mine, which sucks, they lag in large resolution, with lower resolution option I can play without lag
Would it be difficult to put that into the game? By the way, the game has an incredible idea and is very good, if possible, keep adding and improving it.
Bad english, google translate fault
I was reading through the change log and I saw the fix "If you used LMB on a worker while you were teaching it, it would produce recharging instructions."
I was actually very happy when I found that, and considered it a feature. Because I tend to keep a network of recharging bots covering all my other bots, it can be a hassle to actually get a dead bot when I want to train new charger bots. Would it be possible to add an easier way to train recharging bots? It doesn't have to be the old way, but something easy/straightforward would be nice. Or does this exist already and I just don't know about it?
Found a small bug, when building something there is no information pop-up to show what is needed build the object. It is just labeled as "foundation". The picture shows the crude bench saw, but it happens with the flooring, storage crate and the crude workbench as well (I haven't tried anything else yet).
Hi,
Found a bug: Some bots making really, really long bridges will go to the upper-left corner. They even did this when the map was black. Attached is a save and an image. Also, lag, but it goes away when I press space.
https://filebin.ca/3Z9bImvSDnYi/pathfinding-0x-0y-bug.txt is the save URL.
hallo denki, i think this is a bug:
i would build the brigde to left - but my robots going over the other bridge to the upper left corner from the map and hangs there->> http://prntscr.com/ggzkwp so i must manually hole back the robots - because i tell the bots find blueprints around beacon
hope i could help you - the game is very nice und makes fun
Hey, @Denki
I don't know why have you implemented "the two steps" on hover information on buildings. I mean on first hover it gives only the name. To have more information you need to hover again on name. Is it something about game performance?
In my case that only increase the time that you need to achieve information. Even the basic ones on storage depots which you constantly check. It really annoys me.
To achieve two step hovers, you need to keep the first opened window for a while, to be able to leave the hovered item and hover the opened window again. So there is a timeout on each hover window to be disappeared. This also cause another annoying issue. even on every tile of the map mouse hover gives you an info. You need to wait for it to get closed to reach if anything below it. That is also causing the hover bug. On some situations timeout resets and the hover window never be closed again. To fix this you need to open another "type" of that window. That system is totally annoying for me... Forget the names just open the info window...
I have a bugged out steambot. He needs charged for some reason (not sure why as I set them up to retrieve a full inventory of wood). I can't charge him or trade with him to give him wood. I can't interact with him at all to see what's wrong with him. Oh, also I had to download the game manually (no update came through itch.io app.)
Ok thanks. Apparently the new bots just can't be one that uses a tool. (well w/o manually giving them tools) In other words, no way to set them up to fill their inventory w/wood get a tool--use until hands empty but also keep inventory full with wood. They are still nice and useful. I love the canoe makes finding new areas a lot smoother.
You can technically have the tool-using ones keep their inventory with a log in it.
Fill their inventory with Stone except for the last slot, in which you put a Log, and their hand, in which you put the tool.
With this, if they burn their Log, they will stow their tool, grab a log, and then cycle back to their tool, leaving them back with a full inventory and a tool in hand. Then they'll do their task up until their hands are empty (and their tool broke), after which they'll go back to the tool storage to grab a fresh tool.
You can add an empty "Until (X) storage is not full" just after the "until Inventory Full" block if you want them to not bother doing their task if your storage is full for that item anyway. For example, I could say "Repeat Until Clay Storage is not full : (Nothing)" and the bot will just sit there waiting for there to be room in Clay Storage before they start digging again. Since waiting around like this doesn't use any fuel, it's okay that the program will wait there until there's room in storage.
When the bug is fixed that is making the bots consume their entire inventory, you don't have to prime them with stone anymore. They'll still have a full inventory of logs they won't be using, of course, but the time saved not having to hand them a bunch of stones first makes up for it.
Edit: Actually, there's some problems with this, because for some reason, burning a log that's at the front of your inventory won't actually shuffle the rest of the inventory down. Instead, it leaves the gap at the front of the inventory, meaning it messes up the cycling since when you store the item, it'll be at the beginning instead of at the end. So you have to use a full inventory of logs, and use Cycle item Up instead of down.
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Less of a bug report and more of a feature request: It would be nice to have a "Repeat until X storage more full than Y storage." (Either by raw number or by percent storage full would work for me.)
Motivation: When I add automation for producing a new resource, it sometimes drains my supplies for the whole pipeline until that resource is full. (In a concrete example, when I added metal / metal plate production, it consumed all of my coal, which in turn consumed all of my logs.) I can add a "repeat while [ingredient] storage full", but that just moves the problem somewhere else. Having a way to balance production based on available inputs would be helpful. Then again, maybe this is moving the robot scripting language too close to a full-blown programming language (with variables and comparisons and the like), and I'm not sure how you feel about that design-wise.
I was trying to download the safe file but i couldn't for some reason can u put it on mediafire or something so i can download that safe? ;)
Look this is what it just endlessly loads while other sites instantly load for me so it cant be my internet. xd oh and i mean the safe file you put up for download on the front page. its called Party.txt Sorry for not mentioning. Anyway i guess it's not an issue in the game however i'd like to see the safe file :) by the way an idea, Put descriptions under what stuff does like for buildings i was first confused how to make a gear took me 1 hour to figure out i had to build a wood router :P
So, it's not a huge thing, but have you considered having your save files be gzip-compressed json instead of raw json? I just tried compressing one of my saves (using WinZip, but same idea) on a whim, and it went from 900KB to 70KB. I know both save files are pretty small in absolute terms, but I have a habit of making a new save file on each save in case I mess something up, so it adds up.
If you're worried about save backwards-compatibility, you can save the new files as [name].aut or something, and still parse [name].txt files as raw json. (And maybe have an option to save in the uncompressed format for people who want to fiddle with the save files.)
oh what I mean is I play for some time, save it, close the game, come back to it a bit later, and I cant find the saved file when I try to load it
here's the content in the txt(I dunno how to link it sorry)
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Bug: "Wait" doesn't work properly on linux (at least for me) the time a robot waits is greater than the seconds in the command . i tested the Party.txt and it waits like 2-3 secs on 1.0, also with decimals like 0.1 the thing get worse... i tested the Party.txt on windows and the wait time its correct so i think it's only a linux thing
i found why this happen: apparently, my computer's language settings (spanish) change float's dot(" . ") to a comma(" , ") on string conversions. this may happen to other languages so a String.Replace() should do the work. i found that this comma problem also happens in savefiles (floats like CameraDistance, CameraX and CameraZ have " , " instead of " . ")
Okay i'm not sure what happened, i took a bot out of the bot storage and tried to give it a shovel. it dissappeared. i tried it several times and then i could finally reach its program screen but then i got stuck in it and the bot dissappeared aswell. Also it says "Name's brain" (Me is confused) it also ripped 1 hour of work as this is a world from the 1.11 build which i think autosave isn't enabled? Nothing to do about this. I'm not sure if this is considered a real bug or something but it certainly affected me! goodluck fixing this (If its even possible) Denki you're awesome.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5GanPypICMMSURZZ2JxWlNtQzg here i think this will work
Suggestion: The current interface for crude data storage is kind of clunky/unintuitive. I was eventually able to find out how to use them by digging through the change logs, but for a while I just assumed that they weren't implemented yet.
I think that one possible alternative way to use the data storage would be to left- (or right-) click on an inactive bot to open up a screen similar to the bot teaching screen, but with a second panel on the right showing the program stored on the disk, and two buttons to save to and load from the disk. (The buttons could either be "save"/"load" or stylized `->`/`<-` buttons.)
Bug: after clicking Weed with a wooden scythe,my character did an animation of removing it but then the game got stuck. i tried save /load to get unstuck but after that my savefile was empty (i have my inventory, but every object in the world dissapeared: buildings, robots, animals, items, even trees!)
I am on version 13.4. Stared a new map played a bit. Also altered the map with Unofficial Level Editor
After a while bot teach screen has been messed up like the image below. It doesn't allow me to do anything. Also never get fixed even after a restart. Here is the save file
Hi there! I'm new and I'm not in many communities...Autonauts brought me to this one... :-)
So, I enjoy playing Autonauts so much, that I have some questions about it (i think dumb stuff that everyone knows)....
....why doesn't it work, when I make a time-loop in another loop, that only has to repeat x-time? my workers repeat it forever, if this scenario happens. But...if I put various loops like "until hands full/empty" in a x-time loop, the workers will correctly stop the actions after x-time repeating...
Am I doing it wrong?? :-)
thx for help
bauinio
no, the one outside is also an "repeat x times"-loop...like in the example ;-)
the 1-time repeat which contains all of it, doesn't work, the worker repeats it forever i think?!
also like this, the worker repeats all forever, but he should go to 217.121 and then stop there, or i'm wrong?
like this it works, or the "repeat-x-times"-loop inside is replaced by another like "hands full/emtpy"...only when the one inside is also "repeat-x-time" it's not working...
Hi! No worry, the game is so cool, and there are many workarounds to come over with it.
At least i know that I'm doing it right! :-)
Thanks for this great new game, i'm playing each major and minor release till "20 happy hangers", check the features an design/overlay-changes. great development, really nice!
It is actually charcoal, not coal. While creating charcoal, logs/branches are loosing a lot of volume during the process. It is acceptable to make 1 unit of charcoal from 2 logs. Even 1 on 1 is acceptable. It actually forces us to increase log production when we get into metal works. I personally like 2 on 1 rate. But if you hate to create log automation i can understand you :) I myself hate to create cereal seed automation because of the low yield/messy straw production and the amount of bots you need to feed everyone in the map
This is just a suggestion,
Okay Denki, think about this. how about you make us be able to SWAP characters :) We can be any character we want, as in The little mouse the dog the farmer in the autonauts thumbnail. i know this is not a super necessary but please think about it. i'd be fun. Also have different worlds not everytime the same world :P and make it bigger. make a World creation option menu. Where you can choose how big you want your map and stuff :P
Thanks for reading.
Keep on the great work Denki! :)
Well, I was playing autonauts for a while and it seemed pretty fun. I created a 3x3 simple flooring area where I was gonna put my workbenches and stuff, and when I created 2 workbenches and 2 crude benches, after I saved the game and later played it again, the simple flooring under one of the crude benches disappeared! It just...vanished. It still worked and all, but I couldn't place it back and it looks very weird. Please send help!
I just noticed that in version 14 basic bots, when assigned to use a scythe on fertilized cereal crops will "stop" after awhile. they will keep doing the animation, but only on a single plant, and the plant won't vanish and produce wheat like normal. I think this is a bug, it happened both before and after I restarted the game.
Hi! The last update makes very difficult to pick an object if it's beneath another one. New bots also can't be taken if two or more are in the same spot. And I noticed that it takes more effort to put something in storage. Stuff fall off on the other side. Love the new Tab, I used to compile sheets to keep up with dozens of workers.
Hi. I updated from version 14 to 15.1, and now newly created raw apple pies and planks get gradually taller and thinner. Only these 2 resources seem to be affected.
After a while(~30-40min) they get so thin I can't even see them :D , which in itself wouldn't be a problem but then weird shadow artifacts start to appear and the game just stops being playable. Restarting the game or even just reloading the save file resets it, so they again start to "grow" from their normal forms. It happens on both the 32 and 64bit windows versions, haven't tested the others.
Dude. A Repeat command will loop as long as the condition is true. Once that condition is false, it will move on to the next step. Like, they were told to keep doing something until the storage filled. If they find that it isn't, they keep doing the task. If they do find that it's filled, they'll move on to the next step, which is nothing, which means they stop. They weren't told to keep checking after the condition was fulfilled.
You need to put the whole program into a forever repeat, then once the condition is reached once, it will go out to the forever repeat, and that will bring it back to the top and keep checking the condition until it's false.
Please change the default inventory key to something more convenient for my left hand (tab, ~?). Or even better, use the number keys for inventory items. I'm just looking for a way to be able to hold multiple tools at the same time and easily switch between them. Right now it's simpler to just drop an axe on the ground and pick up a shovel rather than put it inventory.
True, but it's more an issue of ergonomics rather than functionality. Q is on one side of the keyboard whereas the "," and "." keys are on the other side (this goes for "I" as the inventory access also); and with one hand on the mouse, it breaks the flow of the game . Obviously, the focus of the game is on the bots, but there's no reason the main character can't be easy to use. I still think the number keys could be used for quick access to the inventory, especially the tools. 1 = axe, 2 = shovel, 3 = pickaxe, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game. It reminds me of a mix between "Human Resource Machine" and "Factorio" and I realize you guys are progressively refining it. I'm not saying these are things that are wrong with the game, just suggestions on further refinements that could be made.
Woah, that's cute sounds, great piles and algorithmathics! Ah, like in times of Colobot programming!
Ohh, I play 5 hours in first try and hardly make stable Forestry automation. Hm, still without tools remaking.
==Suggest==
Its quite hard to manipulate things in inventory for work steps. Especially tools check in the middle of harvesting.
Need to use number buttons for slots and place stuff to inventory slots directly.
...Or I just simply add one worker especially for log transportation and axe guy cut until his hands is empty (then take fresh axe), so no more axe-logs inventory messing.
Sometimes need Copy and Repeat of selected lines.
==Bugs==
Times repeat over Times repeat is infinite cycle.
Same with Full hands over Full inventory repeat.
Ah, already.
Find nearby Log after cutting tree take most far away Log.
Same with Tree Seeds.
Juste pour nous assurer que nous parlons de la même chose, vous voulez dire l'un d'entre eux?
J'ai juste essayé d'utiliser un pic en bois et fer et les deux peuvent être utilisés sur le rocher pour créer des pierres / minerai de fer pour toujours. C'est le même comportement que dans les versions précédentes.
Je ne comprends probablement pas ce que vous voulez dire, pouvez-vous envoyer une photo s'il vous plait?
Hey denki i've discovered an interesting bug where if you place a flooring over top of sea water, then place a crude data storage on top of the flooring that is covering the sea water that data storage over time will slowly sink more and more into the ground until it disappears i have not tried this with other items though...
I do pick it up some times cause its my "Recharge Bot " data storage for when ever i need a new recharge bot but not for anything else. The tile is only used for the data storage. and i dont unless im going to pick it up and the bots dont not that i know of its kind of out of the way. By time i actually mean - because i just discovered this - every time you load up the saved state.
Click on the apple in the top left-hand corner of the menu bar and select System Preferences...
Click on Security & Privacy.
At the bottom of the window you should see "Autonauts" was blocked from opening because it is not from an identified developer.
To the right of that there's an option 'Open Anyway' - click that.
You should get another warning: "Autonauts is from an unidentified developer. Are you sure you want to open it?"
Click the Open option to run Autonauts.
You won't get the warning again unless you download an updated version.
Hope that helps. Let us know if you have any further questions.
Great game so far Denki. In having a lot of fun trying to make my bots as efficient as I possibly can.
Minor bug report for v20.1 (win x64 with lighting):
When chopping trees the first few chops sound correctly but then towards the end of the chopping process the sound either stops playing or plays out of order i.e. only every second hit to the tree.
Suggestion(s):
1) I'd like to up-vote the if-statement request I saw on the bug/request spreadsheet. it is -really- needed for more efficient setups that prevent stacks and stacks of stuff on the ground and also to better control when the bots fetch new tools vs. storage full loops. At the moment there is no good way to inter-mix the repeat loops in such a way that say a tree chopper bot properly stops it's work when storage is full (which appears to be at about the 90% mark or so?) while at the same time monitoring it's own tool durability to go fetch a new tool as needed. An if-statement would allow way better control for these situations, which prevents tons and tons of stacks of things on the ground. The more entities in the world, the more laggy it could potentially get. Imho an if-statement addition should become a somewhat high priority being added to the game for this reason. It would also help eliminate some of the crazy item towers that seem to occur quite often.
2) As an expansion on the already requested if-statement, perhaps do a combination of the "find nearest X" and an if-statement allowing for a condition where wrapped code is only executed if that "find nearest X" function is true. As an example: if "find nearest stone" [ go grab stone, stuff stone in storage ] - next line: if "find nearest ore [ go grab ore, stuff ore in storage ]. With a conditional version of the "find nearest X" it would be possible to have one robot search for more than one thing, thus allowing a single bot to clean up the mining mess that the mining bot leaves behind - or even have the mining bot search the ground to figure out what it just mined and properly stuff it in storage without grinding to a halt if either stone or ore was not dug up.
3) Bot update: a memory card upgrade. Perhaps in different sizes. When setting up bot makers, I find that 32kb (or 32 command lines) is short by 4-8kb to allow a single bot to create a new bot, stuff it in worker storage and craft a name tag. It seems kind of wasteful to me to have to craft up a second bot just to do those few extra things. Of course only one memory card may be installed at any given time and having a memory card installed in a bot imho should prevent the floppy disk from being used to make a backup / copy of the "program" since logically the memory expansion would exceed the size of the floppy. (also prevents situations where people try to copy from a memory expanded bot to a non-expanded bot).
4) "Move to beacon (?)" (?) = select beacon as normal. I assume that naming beacons will become possible at some point in time. If that is already possible I have yet to figure out how it's done.
5) We have these 6 command menus in the teach panel, most of which are empty at the moment. I'm not sure whether this has been requested before (couldnt find it) but perhaps add some of the more tricky commands to those menus, like the "find nearest X" command. This would make it easier to complete recharge bots without having to wait for a random bot to run out of juice. Just a thought, nothing high priority.
Keep up the great work Denki!
Thanks Sharidan!
Yep we get near constant requests to make the "IF" instruction happen :) It's a fairly non-trivial thing to implement which is why it's not happened yet! But rest assured it's high on our list.
Also we'll be adding all the usual programming features like branching, comparitors and arithmethic operations.
Memory upgrades are definitely planned.
Are you wanting a "Move To Beacon" instruction? How would you use that? Also Beacons can be named by pressed Z with one in hand.
Yes we'll be adding all of the instructions into those menus at some point.
Thanks for the great feedback!
To put it all into one word: Excellent! :D
Regarding the "Move to beacon" command: I frequently set my bots to move to a specific location when their actual work process is completed - i.e. when the storage they are monitoring runs full and they stop their work. A "Move to beacon" command would allow three scenarios to play out:
1) When a bot completes its work it moves out of the way indicating visually to me that this particular process is in idle mode and it thus also makes it easier to locate the bot in the world since they are all gathered around the beacon.
2) When moving my build beacon all my builder bots that are currently idling because no build projects are active, would move to the new beacon location so they are already at location when I start throwing down blueprints. I usually grab the beacon and set my player character to move to the new location, then through the build menu I start moving their source storage boxes to the new location. With a "Move to beacon" instruction, I would simply stop/start my bots and have them move there instead of having to wait for them to catch up once the first blueprint has been put down.
3) Migrating bots that move over great distances could be made to travel specific routes by applying multiple "Move to beacon" instructions which would make laying out stone paths as roads easier to handle. A recharge bot could then also be placed at each of these route beacons to make sure the traveling bots don't run out of juice mid-route.
This suggestion also sprung to mind just now:
Allow those "buildings" that don't require flooring to be placed on flooring, like the storage boxes can. I'm currently reorganizing all my stuff and creating buildings to put things into, but I have to leave the "floor" of the building empty for things like the porridge pot etc. because they wont go on flooring.
Thank you for hint about the Z key. I completely forgot about that one!
Excuse me but my english is very bad and I work with a translator.
I have the following problem and I think this is also the problem of Csuhi81.
I built a crude wash tube and a bot takes the clay pot (dirty). Another bot brings the clean clay pot to the storage. And for this to work, another bot uses a bucket to collect water from the waterstorage and bring it to the crude wash tube. This also works for a while and then nothing works. Why? The bot with the bucket is standing in front of the waterstorage, wants to fill it, but it is already full. That's why I taught the bucket and it went on for a while. I have watched this time then. At some point this bot empties his bucket into the CrudeWashTube and the bucket is still full. And if he now executes his order to fill this bucket at the waterstorage, it stops because the bucket is already full. This does not work then, although the Crude Wash tube is empty. I have to empty the bucket first and then it goes on for a while until it is back in front of the waterstorage with a full bucket of water, even though the Crude Wash tube is empty.
He can not execute his command to fill the bucket, as it is (still) full.
Thanks
Norbert
Here is how I set up my bot to find a bucket, fill it with water and fill the wash tub 3 times, find and wash dirty pots 10 times, and repeat everything forever. I have another bot return the clean pots to storage.
I use a similar method for cleaning dirty folk, returning them to their homes, and refilling the tub as needed. It always seems to take 3 buckets of water to fill a tub and 10 pots or 10 folk or 10 clothing being washed to empty the tub. Below is how I set up the bot for cleaning folk.
Hi!
I made a new storage container near BB011.
I missclicked, wanted to put log into the clay machine, but put into the empty container.
Then I want to take out that one log, and I see 58 logs in there, the same amount that was in the original container near BB007.
Is there possible bug, or I am too tired?
20.1 version
For version 21, I might have found a bug (or two).
A) My bots can't find dirty folk! B) I can't clean dirty folk!
A - When using the (very smart) program interface, it suggests using "find nearest Folk (Dirty)" (because the "folk" is dirty), but when I run the "program", the bot just waits. The "Folk" is of cause also "Hungry", but that is taken care of by another bot and that works.
B - So I "manually" change the (small) dirty Jumpers on the Folk, pick them up and go to the Crude Wash Tub, but I can't drop them into it! Is that a bug or I'm I doing it the wrong way?
This is by the way a totally cool game. The best!
When you say you launched it from "itch.io" do you mean the official Itch app? or do you mean the link on the Autonauts Itch web page? If it's the latter can I confirm you've unzipped the download correctly?
Unfortunately we don't have any version of Linux to test on. We've been relying on the community's testing efforts to tell us when something is wrong.
In regards to the e-mail I (and i assume many others) received on or about the 24th of November, since kickstarter didn't work out, is there a way we can still help support the team that's working on it? A donation page or something? I really like this game and would hate to see it die off. Please let me know if i, and others, can help in anyway.
Respectfully,
ChicagoBob
I have two bugs to report:
#1: Nested "Times" loops - If you have two of these loops inside of each other, it proceeds to complete the loop the first time but then jumps to the outer loop rather than looping through the inner loop. I was trying to use a bench saw with an arm load of planks to make poles and have the workerbot grab four poles at a time four times. There is a "work around" to use the "Until hands full" loop instead, but it is none the less a bug.
#2 Simultaneous production of same item stalls out - If I have multiple production areas for the same item, such as three worker bots all making metal bars, there is a glitch after the first bot deposits resources into storage when the storage buildings are full. The first bot to attempt to store the item simply stops and waits until the storage unit empties from its use elsewhere (like another production chain making metal plates) but the subsequent bots all attempting to put items into storage proceed to the next instruction while carrying the item they were intending to put into storage. In this case, they still have their hands full of metal bars while trying to grab some metal ore from another storage container.
Like I said, if it is a solitary production chain I don't have any problems, but only when there are multiple bots involved with the same time all trying to put items into storage at the same time or shortly after the storage fills up. This also isn't isolated to just metal bars but also happens with cereal seed and every other production chain I've built where I've had a bot using multiple item types. Obviously it doesn't matter if for example I have a workerbot picking up cereal and just taking it to a storage chest, because the one extra piece of cereal is what they are trying to grab anyway. It does matter if it is a different kind of item though and more complex instructions for those bots.
What I'm doing right now is to manually go around the map and stop each worker bot on these stalled production chains, collect all of the items including any items they may have left on the ground due to the stalled production, and then restart them one by one when the storage container is empty or almost empty. Having many storage containers of the same time helps in terms of a buffer, but I have some (like the cereal seed) with over 10k storage space that has been completely full and then emptied completely from other production areas before I need to run all over the map and restart production again.
I would love to have the situation where all of the workerbots simply wait when the storage is full until there is some empty space in the storage unit. I would imagine prioritizing a dozen bots who are trying to simultaneously put something like cereal seed into storage (which I have done) is not an easy thing to work out though on your part. Best of luck trying to solve this bug.
Anyway, thank you for your efforts Denki Games, and I am really enjoying this game.
Thanks for the bugs!
#1 This is a known bug, thanks
#2 This is possible known already. The current known bug only happens if two bots, at the same time, attempt to put in a resource into storage that has only 1 empty space. One of the bots succeeds and the other one skips an instruction. Is this possibly what you're seeing?
You can see a list of our current bugs (and user suggestions) here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1btXfrrRUyzqnH7Ce6kNGWe19pWT7bYGqMbLAqdHH...
Thanks
It doesn't necessarily need to happen simultaneously though. Like I said, I can have a dozen bots all at very different stages in the processing of an item type (such as running threshers with cereal) and all but one of the bots will have this glitch. It seems to be something to do with how they are reacting to the storage unit once it is full. If I had to guess, it was a boundary condition you are using with the test for a full storage container, where you are currently only looking at if the bot put in the last item.
Those logic bugs are the kind that tear your hair out, so I completely understand and am sympathetic with why it exists.
I even get a sort of weird situation where due to the fact it isn't completely simultaneous that some arbitrary number of bots won't necessarily glitch out. What I think is happening there is that due to the heavy demand of that item to and from multiple storage containers, that the bots who glitch out slow down production thus allowing the other bots who are consuming that item (like making bread) to catch up and make space available to some of these bots who aren't glitching to put items into storage. If for some reason the consumption of items from the whole production chain is halted (as is the case sometimes when setting up a completely unrelated production chain), I have this happen to all but one of the bots without fail. I can easily reproduce this situation every time it fits this criteria.
Here are some example test files which demonstrate this bug:
This is a large scale production of clay pots that I'm doing (with support bots leading the production chain... I'm doing clay pots to show it more clearly). Here you will see several workerbots making raw clay pots simultaneously, and when it hits the storage peak, all but one will stop. If I ramp up production of the clay pots after the storage containers are full, all of the bots but one are glitched out.
Another situation is here:
Here I have multiple bots both consuming and making raw clay pots. The production of raw clay posts is slightly higher, so one or more of the bots are going to glitch out but the others will continue afterward. A situation like this can have a second or third bot eventually glitch out. If you aren't closely paying attention to the situation, what will happen is that the glitched out item production will gradually start to fall until the storage containers eventually go empty.
I hope that helps you out in seeing a test condition to catch this bug.
Can you fix 2 big problems for me?They are both about the camera. Sometimes when i press the camera controls it doesn't always move when i want it to and when it atuosaves it sends my camera in a random dirtecion and i don't know where i am sometime and i have to press the x button to find my character.
for the first bug i talking about my cursor is in the world and it doesn't do it.the second bug it's like this i be moving the camera then it autosaves then i get thrown in a random dirtecion and i don't even know when it autosaves so i have to hope that i get lucky to stop moving the camera when it does that.Also when it autosaves it makes me think the hame froze.
I have an issue where my autonaut is programmed to get water from water storage, add it to a crude wash tub, and repeat indefinitely. Sometimes when the tub is being used to clean something, the water doesn't get added to it, but the autonaut thinks it does. It then tries to refill the bucket already full with water and gets stuck.
I found a glitch where, if you are mass producing almost anything, at some point, the autonaut might try to use the result to try to make the result. E.g. I have autonauts mass producing metal, (I've checked the code many times to see if it is on my end, but it's not) occasionally they'll glitch out and somehow be trying to make metal using metal. More specifically, the instructions are Add Charcoal>Add Ore>Grab Nearest Metal>Place in Storage>Repeat but they somehow are holding metal, and thus stopping, before they even add the ore. If the storage is full they should just wait, not continue with the process. Even if they did continue with the process, they would stop before they even add the charcoal. Is this a glitch, or am I just not noticing a bug in my code?
just do a search for "free online file transfer".
Here's one https://wetransfer.com/
Suggestions:
1. Skins - Being able to change skins..
3. Batteries - Robots *live*longer..
3. Guy Fawkes Hat - Well.. I think it should be just mask.. it has hat on it and look weird
4. New Resource - like Gold or Diamond .. prob just to *upgrade* tools that have durability / make tools do their jobs faster
Thank you. Did your reply mean that the following items that you described earlier this month are somewhere in 21.2? Where are they?
Autonauts Update, December 2017
Now you won’t be thrown in at the deep end with everything available always from the start and no clue what to do. Now you get to complete objectives (or quests or missions depending on your preference) to unlock new blueprints and technology - especially if you look after the folk and help them become more civilised.
The folk now die if you neglect them for too long (no, you can’t recycle them; you build them a nice burial mound instead) but fortunately you can also breed folk (in a U-rated fashion using a special building and oysters, which are washed up on the beach).
Other new features include making the whistle for the bots, a quern for grinding crude flour, pumpkin pieces for food and a timeline that acts a little like a log (diary) by keeping track of your discoveries and inventions as you make them and when you complete key goals.
Merry Botmas!
Perhaps the biggest addition this week is Game Options, which let you choose between a more structured game and more freeform play - and whether to use key features or rules.
This means it's up to you if you want to play with the concept of death when it comes to raising Folk and automating their world - and if that's under the umbrella of the new day-night cycle.
Oh, and Bots are now made in key parts to assemble, which will ultimately lead to the potential for combinations of bods, heads, brains, drives and the like.
i dont know if this is a bug but its a problem for me
when i try to save, sometimes just when i click save nothing happens
and sometimes i do save and it asks do you want to save and i click yes and it just stays light grey like when i just clicked it and nothing happens
i have tried reinstalling the game and try to save again and it happens again
i hope i could get some help thanks
On no! Well hopefully I can help. The next time it happens can you send me a file called Autonauts_Data/output_log.txt found in your install folder please? That's for the PC version. If you're using a different version please let me know. You can just copy/paste the contents of the file in a reply here or send me the file using an online file transfer service.
Thanks
Hello,
I am trying to speed up the creation of butter in order to speed up the production of pastries, raw apple pies, and apple pies. I am wondering what I could do with dung that would speed up cows becoming full. Should I leave dung on the grass, or should I convert dung into fertilizer and then put the fertilizer back on the grass, or should I incinerate the dung, or should I do something else? Thank you.
Hmm I have some bad news for you :( As long as there's grass to eat, the speed at which cows produce milk can't really be increased. Clearing the Dung will help make sure there's grass to eat but you can't put fertiliser on it to make it grow faster and even if you could, it wouldn't affect milk production.
Other players have noted that there aren't enough cows in the world to make milk fast enough to keep up with the demand for pies. This is something we need to balance properly in the future.
Thanks!
I noticed that there weren't enough cows too. So, I used MS Notepad to update the save file and I changed most of the sheep into cows, since we only need enough sheep to be sheered a few hundred times to make all of the wool to create all of the clothes that would ever be needed, and I wanted more cows to produce more milk.
I will try to slow down the eating of the apple pies by the Folk with some "Wait" commands to the bots that give them the pies. I think that if there was about 30 seconds of waiting within the Repeat loop of those bots that perhaps the milking of the cows could keep up.
I would like to request that you add two more "Repeat" options: "until ? Storage empty" and "until ? Storage not empty". I would like to connect these options to pairs of bots that would be similar to the bots that shout "Stop" and "Go" so that other bots can wait until they hear those shouts. For example, I would like my bots that make Pastries to wait until they hear "Go Pastries" before proceeding and will stop when they hear "Stop Pastries", but instead of the shouting bots waiting until the Pastry Storage is full or not, they would wait until the Butter Storage is empty or not. By stopping the Pastry makers when the Butter Storage is empty and forcing them to wait several minutes before starting making Pastries again, the Butter makers would have time to make a large amount of Butter. Thank you.
We've been posting a few things here on Itch and on our Discord server about anything new but most of our work has been rearranging existing things into something new players can understand more easily, so it's not very exciting stuff for more experienced players. Having said that we're going to make more of an effort to post more regularly. Thanks!
Hello i'm having a bug with cows nos moving/eating after moving to: 247,101; 247,102; 243,99; 243,98; 248,101. also if the go near there they almost "dash" away like 3-5 'blocks' in the opposite direction. i have found that picking them up and droping them will reset them, but if they move back they get stuck again.
Hello! Thanks for making an awesome game, its like Minecraft, Factorio and other similars that lack what you ve added in Autonauts. I never pay for videogames (i use pirated sowwy :( ), but I will donate for this one (as soon as I get some cash) and will definetely buy new version when it comes out officially. I will reward such an awesome idea.
I played for 3 days, so far found no bugs, sometimes I find workers that stopped for no reason I have to select them and click play again. I havent figured whether I somehow stopped them myself or is it an actual bug.
I am somewhat of programmer myself, but not a very good one (JS, PHP, C# but still learning a lot of things) thats why I enjoyed this game so much, in future I'd like to make videogames myself.
So I have some suggestions, is this the right page for suggestions? sowwt! Here they are:
1. Good idead - crude storage drive expands bot's memory.
2. Could you add IF, ELSE, OR, AND,
3. Im still learning ins and outs of the game, I see taht a bot can shout and i guess whenever some other bot hears certain shout it can break out of a loop, I yet have to test how this works. Another suggestion, could you add a lever that a bot or autonaut can press which will get another bot attached to this lever (or button, or beacon) to spring into action.
This is all so far, let me know whether my suggestions were valid or if I could help with testing or in any other way, I am somewhat exprienced with graphics (Photoshop, Illustrator, Inkscape, Blender), and used to be somewhat exprienced with web dev (php, java script, html5, css learning Java atm). my contact intervm3@gmail.com
Good luck with you game, I hope you will make tons of money, becpme right and open a successfull game dev studio!
Vladimir
Hey, thanks for the great Autonauts feedback.
Your problem with bots stopping : It's possibly a bug but more likely the bot's script that's at fault. If you can identify a specific bot that does this, send me a picture of the script and I'll have a look.
Your ideas are welcome and these are all things we'll be looking at in a future version, so thanks.
OK, here is a few bugs I've found.
1. Workbot can't find current beacon if another workbot is staying on it. (After start of algorithm left-bottom workbot will go to upper beacon)
2. Workbot can't find nearest water from lake (I don't know why, because another workbot can do this). From the other hand he can find water from sea.
3. And there are some artefacts on screen sometimes. I think it's when too many elements are on the screen at the same time.
You're issue 2 is probably due to the command "Find nearest Water ?" not being based upon a Beacon but instead being based on the location that the bot was when it was trained, as indicated by the ? symbol, while the bot is now too far from that training location and the training location being too far from any water. It could also be due to this bot being loaded with commands from data storage that had been saved from another bot whose own training location, as indicated by the ? symbol, is too far from this bot . You can retrain this bot and click on that ? symbol to use a nearby Beacon instead of the initial training location for finding the nearest water.
Another problem is that all of the Folk's huts are so close together that if the nearest water is on the opposite side of all of the huts from the bot that there is not sufficient time for the program to find the shortest pathway through all the huts to the water. When you place the huts, you should provide passage ways through them. Leave some gaps between the huts (and other buildings) so that bots can pass through them and the program can find a pathway.
I do not think that the lack of spaces between the huts will "prevent" all bots from walking to the water. I meant that where this bot is located relative to the water might be south of the huts. The red circle is showing the area that the program will search for the nearest water to find the shortest path, and that area includes about 100 huts. The program would calculate the lengths of the paths including those through the huts, but since the only paths through them are moving east-west between the rows (rather than moving north through non-existent gaps between huts), the amount of time to calculate all of those times for thousands of combinations of pairs of the 100 huts is so large that this bot doesn't move. If there were gaps, the program would find paths using them in a shorter amount of time and then could find the shortest path and thus the "nearest" water. The other bot that you mentioned no doubt has nearby water that is not reached by a path through the blockade of huts, and that long calculation and comparison of times would not be as great.
Hi again,
Before I continue a little info. I am a videogame addict for many years now, I will soon become an old man hehe but I still play for many hours a day. II really like strategies and resource managment games. Amoung my favorites are Sim City, Civilization, Age of Empires, Starcraft, Railroad Tycoon and many others. I also liek Minecraft, and what I like about it the most was automation of certain tasks, using red stone circuits and stuff, but it was lacking something I couldnt really put my finger what it is. So i built a giant self processing, self sorting rail station, got bored with it and never touched it again. Thne I discovered Factorio wich also a really nice mining crafting production chain game. But somehow out of all of these your game has the most potential to be the most fun in my personal top 5 list.
I understand that it is hard work and it is still work in progress, so I decided to make your life even harded and to give you a ton of suggestions!
I made a list of suggestions and added some explanations to it, sorry it is a bit long .
Containers
jI think no teleportation between containers would add functionality and gameplay, as player would have to design material hubs with warehouses as well as transport paths using wheeled carts and such to deliver raw items to construction sites and production areas.
It is weird to be able to insert a 100 logs into a small container, I think logs could be stored in a stack on the ground or in a special roof covered building, kinda like bot storage. Metal ore and other raw material for example could be stored in a pile inside a concrete semi fenced area like in real factories.
a special warehouse building that can store several types of res at a time to save space and could also be connected to rail system. For example it could have a loading dock. Now that I think of it, it would also be fun to have to build a cargo barge as an alternative to a bridge between water separated areas.
Items
Items should have weight, as it would be difficult for a player to lift and carry an entire tree trunk, and store additional six of em in inventory. Actually, when I first saw the game several weeks ago, I was finally happy to see someone implementing something similar to carrying capacity in the game (that is before I learned that you could put six more trees in your inventory and still run around) I like games like Minecraft and Factorio bur it is so weird to be able to carry three tons of processed metal in ones pocket.
I think similar rules could apply to item size. Inventory could be represented as a grid of tiles and different items could occupy different amount of tiles.
transportation
As was mentioned earlier, if magic teleportation between containers was removed an additional fun element in the game could be implemented. It would be great to have wheeled carts, pump trucks or something like that.
A type of truck could be added that could transport certain amount of resources as well as several bots. For example a bot construction crew loaded with material could arrive at the site to start building.
Fastest way to deliver items across the map. Also transportation capacity is significantly larger.
equipment
It would be fun to have to manage equipment, For example a saw blade could wear off with usage. Or a random malfunction could take place which would require a maintenance bot to service it using specific tools.
Electricity
- Electricity would be nice to have for additional morbid fun! Wind turbines or coal burning generator or water wheel operated. But all equipment should have a source of power including bot batteries.
bot batteries
Bots may need to work in shifts on the same task as it takes time to recharge abatttery at the charging station.
starting setup
If you do decide to implement some of the thing mentioned. I think it would make sense to give player some processed resources at the start of a game, For example a Basic wind turbine module packaged in a container that a player can unpack and install.
Also, a player could receive not only material like planks and poles and some gears to assemble initial workshop equipment there would also be essential tools like hammers and wrenches or screwdrivers.
Maybe it would look like an air drop or delivery from space. But at the start of a game player could choose and area where starting gear would land.
Folk
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bot programming
for bot programming purpose it would awesome to have a database where you could choose to copy commands a bot has learnt. Initially you would have to show a bot what to do by example, but as you colect more code snippets you could reassemble it, produce a script load it onto a drive and load it into a nex bot.
Of course these suggestion are soming from someone who is into strategies and stuff, I undersand that sometime for the sake off fun many things are not included in a game just so people dont start yawning.
Also if you ever need a Russian or Ukrainian localization I would be happy to translate it for you free of charge.
Vladimir
Спасибо!
Thank you for your enthusiasm, feedback and suggestions (and kind offer).
You might be pleased to hear that we have already implemented some of these (for example, the 'shared' storage has been taken out) and pretty much everything else is planned.
We hope to be sharing more news very soon.
All the best
Gary and Aaron
Those certainly were a large number of ideas. I hope that you put most of them on the 2019 list of programming tasks rather than the 2018 list of tasks. It's been over 4 months since the last update and I'm sure that most fans of Autonauts don't want additional delays. I recall that you said that your progress reports would appear on some other site. Would you please provide a specific link to the other site's post so that we can find them without a lot of searching. Thank you.
I have some questions about the new version being developed. I saw your image shown below from the "Wotta Lotta Botta" post that you said "This is what happens when you mess around with the new Bot construction system to mix up the baskic Mk1, Mk2 and Mk3 parts :)".
I presume that perhaps Mk1 might be the head part, Mk2 might be the chest with arms part, and Mk3 might be the legs part. Do we need all three parts for every Bot?
I guess that for a Bot to be able to "Shout" and to "Repeat until hear" that it must have a "head" part. Is that right?
I guess that for a Bot to hold objects that it must have a "chest with arms" part. Is that right?
I guess that for a Bot to move that it must have a "legs" part. Is that right?
Is it possible that for some situations, a Bot might function without a "head" part? What might be some such situations?
Is it possible that if a Bot does not need to hold objects that it might not need a "chest with arms" part?
Is it possible that if a bot does not need to move that it might not need a "legs" part?
In the latest released version 21.2, I have several Bots set up such as those shown below for my "Fishing" group. I have one Bot named "GoFish" (wearing a Party Hat) that waits "until Salmon Storage not full" and then will "Shout GoFish".
I have one Bot named "StopFish" (wearing a Guy Fawkes Hat) that waits "until Salmon Storage full" and then will "Shout StopFish".
I have seven Bots named such as "Fish1" that wait "until hear GoFish" and then will "Repeat until hear StopFish" the two steps "Find nearest Deep Sea Water" and "Use held item" (which is the fishing rod).
I have three Bots named such as "Fish>Stor1" that move the Salmon to the Salmon Storage.
I have two Bots (wearing Traffic Cone Hats) that rewind the other Bots.
Is it possible in the new version that new Bots such as "GoFish" and "StopFish" that never hold objects and never move might only need a "head" part?
Thank you for your information and for all of the great work you have done with Autonauts!
Thank you for this information. Can you list the "different abilities" for each body part for us? If each bot needs a head, a body and a drive, does that mean that different types of heads have different abilities, and likewise different types of bodies and different types of drives similarly have different abilities? I can imagine that perhaps some Bots have big heads with more memory than Bots with small heads, and perhaps bigger bodies can hold more than smaller bodies, and perhaps big legs are faster than small legs. Is that what you meant? Or did you mean something else? Perhaps like the current version has "Crude Bots" that can carry more than "Basic Bots", and "Steam Bots" can carry more than "Crude Bots"?