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A topic by Jeiel Aranal created 199 days ago Views: 752 Replies: 50
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Developer (Edited 1 time)

Please post here if you have questions about Sprytile. Also feel free to contact me on Twitter.

Hey! I love the tool so far! Thanks! I did experience the bleeding issue when exporting to Unity (following the guide and using the guide tileset), but I'm going to try following the advice in the other thread for that. 

In the meantime, there was another issue I haven't read about. Within Blender, each tile/plane renders on both sides, however, when I export the object to Unity, each plane only renders on one side and the other side is invisible (as expected for a plane). Do you know how I can view this true render state in Blender? And is there any way to automatically place two opposing planes so that it renders on both sides? I have a feeling if I just try creating two tiles on the same vertex but on each side, it'll just replace the first one I place with the second one. Does that make sense?

Developer

Thanks for trying out Sprytile! You can see how Unity will render your mesh my turning on Backface Culling. In the right hand side panel of the viewport (press `n` if it isn't visible) expand 'Shading' and toggle Backface Culling on.

There's a way to make faces double sided using a utility that comes with Sprytile, covered in the advanced documentation.

Hope to see the cool stuff you make with Sprytile!

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Fantastic! I think this is how I'll spend my weekend, can't wait to get home. Thanks so much!

I feel like I'm so close to getting this working! I finally got bleeding turned off, finally got the textures to stop being blurry, and double sided planes all work... but now when I actually import the .obj into Unity, I get the weirdest layering issues!

I feel so close and yet so far away! I haven't seen anyone else mention this so I'm guessing it's another thing I messed up :P

Developer (Edited 1 time)

That's a pretty neat thing you're doing. This issue should be fixable on Unity's side. What is the material you're using?
For reference, I'm testing on Unity with an "Unlit/Transparent Cutout" material and the sorting on the guardrails work correctly.





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You're right, I feel like an idiot. I stayed up all night playing with Sprytile so my brain must be fried, sorry! I had it set on the Standard shader with the UV map set for albedo but the rendering mode was set to fade. I've set it to opaque and it works  mostly great, with the exception that it did something weird to the transparent tiles (the image on the left is before, on the right is after). I'll keep playing around with it within Unity and figure it out, thanks so much!

Developer

Cool! If you come up with good settings for the standard shader, could you please share it in the Unity Import Settings thread? Would be nice to have alternatives to unlit materials in that thread. Thanks!

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Sure! OK, so I finally got a perfect result I'm happy with, but I'm going to play with it more before I post to that thread. I think it was just another case of me being dumb. I'm using the "Standard" shader with the "Cutout" Rendering Mode--the fatness/weirdness of the wooden bars were due to Alpha Cutoff being set to 0 (I progressively feel more like an idiot the longer this thread lasts, haha, the DEFAULT is .5, not sure how it got set to 0). I set the Alpha Cutoff to x >= .5 and it renders perfectly. I can't use unlit since I have a day/night cycle in the game, and the light adjusts accordingly.

I combined this with the technique posted about in the other thread describing the GIMP script that automatically spaces and margins the tileset and I get zero bleeding / perfect rendering. I'll post all the stuff I learn about the Unity workflow after I finish one full asset and I have a bit more experience in this--I don't want to post something incorrect. Thanks again for all your help and for making this and sorry for all my stupid questions!

Developer

Glad you figured it out!

Is it possible to repeat textures?

Usage example

Developer

Hi. There isn't a way to repeat the same tile on a single face because it wouldn't be technically possible without a specific shader.

What you could do is use the set normal mode on the face and use the build tool to create to roof tiles along that normal. There's a written explanation of set normal mode in the advanced documentation.

Hope this helps!

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Noob question sorry, I'm new to 3D in general and wanted to bring my pixel/tile art to the 3D field
So, I made this little, pretty bad test map and I'm trying to render it to see how the pixel textures will behave on a pre-rendered, PS1 style map...

But when I render, it ignores the textures and just tries to render like this! I dunno what's the matter, but I'm eager to make maps with this and I wanted to get the simplicity of this map building with the PS1 RPG aesthetic so ;v;
Pls help?


EDIT: Actually, nevermind... i deleted the project, reopened blender and did another one. it worked fine, until i tried to subdivide the tiles in that closet to add detail, then it went all bonkers. also, it started creating tiles only facing a specific direction no matter how much i turned the camera around... so, its probably because im a blender noob and it's such an arcane, mystic tool @_@

(yours is not tho, so sweet and intuitive <3)
Developer

I saw your Twitter post so this might have been sorted out already, but replying in case it helps other people as well.

Which renderer are you using? I've only really tested with Blender's internal renderer and the quick material setup is really designed for an unlit look. The material settings may have to be changed to use the Cycles renderer or for a differently lit scene.

The work plane being stuck on a single axis sounds like Axis Lock might be on. It's not covered in the basic tutorial but the written advanced tutorial does. Basically the toggle on the left of the axis indicators in the Sprytile panel.

Sprytile's tools are untested with subdivided meshes and is not really designed for that use case.

This style of rendering is really neat and an unexpected use of Sprytile for me! Would love to be updated with how you push these renders.

Thanks for using Sprytile!

Whenever I try to create something using Sprytile, it displays an orange color instead of the tileset I'm using.


However, if I render it, the tileset shows up like normal.


I'm still learning the ins and outs of Blender, so it may just be a problem on how I set it up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Developer

Thanks for taking the time to check out Sprytile!

Can you please try going back to object mode and pressing the "Set Material to Shadeless" button in the Sprytile panel?

This might be something to do with your Blender system settings. Can you open your user preferences window and switch to the system tab? For reference, this is what mine looks like.

You can also try deleting the lights in your scene.

I switched over to cycles and added an image texture and then this worked in cycles but upon returning from this back to blender render. I found that this made my screen do this whole orange thing too. It may be related to this that caused you this issue especially if you tried experimenting around in cycles and then switched back and so on.

I tried everything you said above, but the tileset still doesn't display right. My settings seem to be the same as yours.  I found a temporary fix where you set the objects viewport shading to rendered. It displays correctly, but the grid is disabled and editing is a bit slow.


I'm not really sure what the problem is. 

Thanks for the help!

Developer

This might be a more general Blender issue, but to be sure I'd like to take a look at the .blend file. There might be a material setting the setup function isn't taking into consideration. Would it be possible to upload your file somewhere? Or if not, it could be sent through email.

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I installed Sprytile on a different computer running the same version of Blender on this computer, and it works just fine. Maybe Blender didn't install correctly?

Developer

What a strange error, glad you have a usable copy of Blender to use at least. You could also try downloading the portable builds of Blender to see if it helps. Have fun with Sprytile!

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Hello, i use Blender 2.78 , and look at the beginer video for your addon.

You press "Set Materialto Shadeless" , but i have an error


I used also Sensei Format addon, dont know if it's the problem.


Edit: I found the problem. Your addon hate Sensei Format addon :(

Developer

Thanks for reporting this error, I'll add this to the bug list and look into it.

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I just discovered that, if you select Cycles Render, the tiles won't appear. It`s important to note because some people might run into trouble because of this.

Developer(+1)

Thanks for letting me know, I don't really use the Cycles renderer myself. It's probably something to do with OpenGL access being different when Cycles is active.

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No, you can just add as an image texture and it seems to work.



Developer(+1)

Came across this too when I tried to reproduce the issue. Textures not showing up seems to happen when you start a new scene with Cycles on before using Sprytile. It's a little strange that it continues to work when switching to Cycles after setting up Sprytile, but this issue has been noted in the recent docs update :)

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Hello! I keep getting PayPal's vague error when trying to buy this. I'll try again but have you had any problems from anyone else?

"We can't process your payment right now, so please try again later. We're sorry for the inconvenience."

Developer

I haven't had PayPal errors reported to me yet, but this sounds like it would be better reported to itch. Thanks for your interest in supporting Sprytile!

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Hey! loving this so far, only problem is for every other scene I make the textures end up blurred, I made one and it was fine, but upon opening the file, the textures were blurry

Developer(+1)

It sounds like the mipmap settings weren't saved in the blender preferences. Go back to the user preferences step in the tutorial about the mipmap settings and make sure to press save preferences on the bottom corner of the window before closing the preferences.

I get seams when using this and rendering in blender. Is this to be expected and how do I render without showing the seams?

Developer

This is using Blenders internal renderer? I've been rendering using that and don't remember having to take any extra steps, the material and texture setup should theoretically take care of it.

I'm afraid I'll only be able to help with this tomorrow since I'll be AFK, but try searching for mipmap settings, either in the system settings or the material.

The same method that fixes this issue on other engines fixes it for me so I'm currently using a script to convert the tilesets and it's probably for the better anyways since it seems to be an issue outside of blender even if it isn't an issue internally for everyone. I've also had to start unchecking transparent after setting the material to shadeless which I do not recall having to do before (I also recall the first time [before this shadeless issue], I tested this that it just worked without seams as well not sure if the two issues are related or if im just having a false memory though.

hey! so, I found an issue (probably some easy fix) but for some reason sometimes transparent tiles work, while other times they don't, and I have no idea how to fix that. I followed the tutorial through but I couldn't find anything

Developer

Hmm, a bit difficult to diagnose this without more to go on. It's possible the problem is the viewport shading mode, which I do need to highlight in the next documentation pass.

Make sure the viewport shading is set to material when this happens next.

Hey, this might be a blender issue as I just started using blender for this particular addon, but it seems I'm not able to build on the sides? Anyway I try to rotate the camera it keeps painting in the ground, 

I'm moving using middle mouse if that does anything...

Developer(+1)

The axis lock button is pressed. Turn off the button under β€œauto merge” and you should be able to paint on the camera view axis again.

Thanks for trying out Sprytile!

I've been trying Sprytile and so far I love it!

However I have been wondering about the workflow tab, mine is empty. Maybe its a setting I can't find? I have blender 2.79.


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Well, now I feel silly. I updated sprytile and there it is.

Sorry for the inconveniance :P

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Hi there, is there a key to delete tiles?


Also: [There's a way to make faces double sided using a utility that comes with Sprytile, covered in the advanced documentation.] - This link is now broken. :(

Developer(+1)
Deleting tiles is done using Blender's workflow for deleting faces.

  1. While in edit mode, change to face mesh select mode by pressing Ctrl+Tab
  2. Select the faces to delete by right clicking
  3. You can also use paint selection by pressing `C` and painting the selection. Scroll the mouse wheel up and down so change the brush size
  4. After selecting the faces/tiles you want to delete, press `X` or the delete key and select `Faces`
Developer

The documentation has moved to a different URL. If links to documentation are broken, you can probably find it in the new URL.
http://docs.sprytile.xyz/advanced-features/#make-double-sided

Hi

Very interesting and well thought out addon you made! However I am having a slight problem, don't know if I'm doing something wrong. When in build mode tilesheet preview/palette does not appear in the lower right corner. Do I have to enable it somewhere, or could have I maybe closed it by mistake?

I am using blender 2.79, blender internal render and am in material display mode.

Thank you for the great addon and help.

Developer

Hmm, you shouldn't need to be doing anything else. I can't think of any settings that would do this. When you enter build mode, do you see the tile preview in the viewport? Are you still able to create faces with the build tool?

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Hi, here is a screenshot. I'm in the build mode, there is no preview in the lower right corner. I thought that maybe some other addon is in some sort of conflict with sprytile, so i turned of bPainter and HardOps addonsm after i took thes screenshot but it did not help.

Not visible on this picture is the fact that i can build as intended, i even get semi-transparent preview of the tile, offset works so I can pick the part of my tile set manually via offset but is not the most comfortable workaround.

As far as I could see other features of the addon work as intended.

Thanks for the help.

edit: just to add.. I am using a 2k tileset that I made, for testing, as I do not intend to use Sprytile for pixel art style.

Developer (Edited 1 time)

Hmm. I've not tested the UI with a texture that large, I can imagine it bugging out when handling textures at that size. Can you open the system console to check for error messages?

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Thanks for support!

Here is console readout, after starting on a new file, loading tileset, and pressing "build"

edit: i tried laoding 1k texture and it works. However, it would be cool if bigger textures could be loaded for uses beside pixel art

Developer

Thanks for the console dump. It looks like there are no overt errors, I just never considered the use case of very large textures.

cool, are you planing to make loading 2k+ maps available?

Developer

It will go in the todo pile, how soon it will be done will probably depend on the complexity