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Tag merges and suggestions Sticky

A topic by leafo created Nov 22, 2019 Views: 1,380 Replies: 33
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Hello! I’m here to tell you how our tag system works and how you can help us make it better.

How tags work (click me to show)
  • Projects can use any tag they want when classifying their games
  • “Suggested tags” are recommended in the drop down list when someone is tagging their work, we manage a list of those in the database
    • Most people just use suggested tags
  • Suggested tags can appear elsewhere on the site, like on browse. They are also much more likely to be found by search engine
  • Project tags that aren’t suggested can only be accessed by clicking on the tag name on the project page

The original plan is that we would watch for what popular free-form tags are being used and turn them into suggested tags, while merging any similar tags. In practice this is kinda hard, and also may prevent certain kinds of tags from ever appearing.

In this thread:

  • Make a suggestion for a new Suggested Tag
  • Tell us about similar tags that need to be merged

note: merging a tag will update the taggings of any projects that use the old tag, additionally if anyone in the future tries to use it, it will automatically be renamed to the merged tag

Reminder, here are our rules about tagging: https://itch.io/docs/creators/quality-guidelines#use-relevant-tags-prefer-using-suggested-tags

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mmorts (there is already mmorpg) (Edit: I didn't realize you could add tags yourself.)

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Hi y'all. What I'd like most isn't *more* tags, but actually a way to sort by things I *don't* want. For instance, suppose I want a free browser-based game that has gamepad support, but I really *don't* want dating sims, novels, platformers, or gay furry erotica. I *do* want to keep myself open to things that might fit into the "other" category though, so I don't want to limit myself to just action/adventure. Having a way to exclude tags and genres would be infinitely more helpful to me, the casual browser, than a zillion more tags to include.  I think it would also fix some of Minoh Workshop's problems.   

 It would also be nice if while I'm logged in there was a way to take games I've already played, games I've personally rated below a certain threshhold, and games I've individually excluded from search results off the top page. I've already played "Aubergine". I liked it enough, but I never want to play or see it again, and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if never again being reminded of its existence meant cleaner search results.

Thank you.

Second this idea.  You have a little plus icon next to the tag to add it to my existing tag, all you need is a minus as well.  Can't imagine this being terribly difficult to implement.  More complex operators like and/or could also be helpful.

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Hello!

Is it possible for Idle become a suggested tag? I don't know what is the itch.io policy regarding incremental games (I understand that some people dislike the genre and maybe the platform prefer keep focus out of it), but if they are welcome it would be nice for these games have their own suggested tags and genre. Also, since there is people that don't like these type of games, creating their own tags would mean they don't get mixed with other genres .

Important to notice  that incremental, idle and clicker are distincts genres that happens to - more often than not -  walk together. It is okay merge all of them into one (idle or incremental) initially, but if  the genre grows here, in the future it would be better split it.

With the end of kong that was the main source of the genre, developers and players have to change platforms for new games. Having a better way to classify the genre on itch.io would be nice. 

Anyway, I hope the platform give a thought on it. Thanks!

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Sure, I’ve added the tag as a suggested tag: https://itch.io/games/tag-idle

You are amazing, thank you!

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Has anyone suggested a "comepleted" or "finished" tag yet? A lot of the content on here are in early builds and demos and have been for awhile now. It's hard to find content that is in fact stable, quality checked and in a complete status so having a category or tag for projects that are marked as complete, fully finished projects would be great. 

To the best of my knowledge, that’s what “Status: Released” is meant for.

I don't see a status released tag or filter but I'm on mobile so maybe it's a desktop view only type of deal, but there's definitely nothing in tags and none under filter that can sort or find things based upon a released/finished status.

Hm… In the browser version of the search, it filters just fine. (Example Search: Top free Visual Novel released Games for Linux tagged LGBTQIA )

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I would suggest to merge the Unity tag into the the “Made with: Unity” entry. Right now both of them are defined as the same thing, so if they were any hypothetical games that were handling the concept of unity they would have been miscategorized anyway.

What’s more, right now there are 12,504 entries who have both tags. And while it’s commendable that some devs go through the effort of adding the tags in both places, a grand total of 55,621 entries (43,203 + 12,418) did not do that and have only one tag or the other.

Boring numbers aside, it would also be more transparent (thus less confusing) for the users and less redundant for the devs to use.

Same situation with the “Made with: Ren’Py” entry and the renpy tag, but with way less impressive numbers.

And with the “Made with: Unreal Engine” entry and the Unreal Engine tag.

And the “Made with: RPG Maker” entry and the rpgmaker tag…

There are more, but I hope I could bring my point across. (I don’t know how this tag redundancy came to be, but I could imagine that it was just a simple oversight when the system was upgraded to show game engines.)

On a very related note, I would propose an option to filter for the “Made with” field.

I’m particularly thinking about an exclusion filter as I write this. Which I am aware might be a big ask to properly code, test and implement for a feature not many users might even think about…

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The “Category: Physical game” as well as the tags “physical-game” and “physical” seem synonymous. If there isn’t some kind of hidden meaning* I would suggest the tags to be merged into the category.

.* Right now, both tags have no description.

To the best of my knowledge the physical games tags “Singleplayer”, “solo-rpg” and “solo” are used synonymous. Merging them into the “Singleplayer” tag seems like the most transparent choice. (If you need a reasoning for that: In case a Han Solo tag ever comes around. ;) )

Same but more obvious with the physical games tags “2-player” and “two-player”. “2-player” would seem more logical to me (because numbers are short and international), but it is used less commonly - so what do I know. ;)

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The physical games tags “tabletop-rpg”, “ttrpg” and “tabletop”* are almost certainly used synonymous. The tag “tabletop-rpg” seems the most transparent. And if it could be displayed as “Tabletop RPG” it would look a lot nicer.

.* I would describe Warhammer or BattleTech as “miniature wargames” if a tag for those was ever needed. Just “tabletop” doesn’t really tell the user much and those kinds of games can be played on the floor as well, I’ll have you know. ;)

May I suggest “collectathon”? I just checked, it seems to not be there.

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https://itch.io/t/1010509/escape-room-type-games-should-have-a-genre-separate-fr...

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(As far as I understand, a genre is a type of tag). I think "Escape Room" puzzle games and games such as those I mentioned in the post above (Baba Is You, The Witness, Snakebird) are two completely different things and should not be put under the same genre.

Stating your opinion and thoughts about it in the post above would be appreciated.

While I get your sentiment, there’s no consensus to that thread at this point in time. Maybe you should wait a day or two until people even had the chance to notice that thread in the first place and maybe have their say.

That aside, you should write a summary and underlay that with this link, so people know what you’re actually suggesting here.

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I don’t know the first thing about mobile games on itch, but there seems to be a “mobile friendly” checkbox for HTML5 games which currently can’t be filtered for. If that checkbox wasn’t a checkbox but rather a tag, it could be filtered for.

While this isn’t a classical merge suggestion, this thread did not only seem like the closest match but it also seemed like something that could be done in a very similar fashion to the automated merger/replacement of tags in the database.

If I was wrong about that, I do not mind this post getting deleted.

Kids, look away for a second…

futa is just short for futanari. Thus, merging them into the “futanari” tag seems to make the most sense.

Some language tags have duplicates:

“Language: French” and the just the french tag.

“Language: Spanish; Castilian” and the just the spanish tag.

That being said, I’m currently unable to locate a filter option for language. If that filter really isn’t selectable, that on its own would be a far larger issue than unmerged tags…

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The tags Score Attack and High Score feel really similar to me. Maybe they should be merged? Or, at least, the difference should be clear.

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Same with Leaderboard.

We have an online-leaderboard tag as well, but I feel like that one is more clearly distinct because being able to compare scores worldwide is a separate enough feature.

When I try to look up Score Attack on Wikipedia I get a redirect to Score (game), which contains a paragraph on High Score but the actual term Score Attack is nowhere to be found. So the duplicates should be merged into the High Score tag.

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NONE HORROR TAG HOLY SHIT theres just way to many horror games and i dont really like horror games so id love a tag to click that would exclude all horror games

This is a separate feature and isn’t really related to this thread.

Exclusion filters are what mid was talking about, STE.

They are currently a hidden feature. ( But maybe for X-Mas… if we are good… Saint leafo will stuff our stocking? ;) )

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I feel the "traps" tag should be removed. While likely intended to be used on games which feature tricky puzzle elements, such as Syobon Action, the word has long since (ca. 2015 or earlier) become a slur used against transgender women and crossdressers (implying that they're "trapping" men into having sex with someone who is supposedly also a man). Indeed, some games are using this tag for this exact purpose. This tag is detrimental to the itch.io community, as it may (read: will) cause transgender allies, both buyers and sellers, to leave the site.

"Animation" would make a good tag, mainly for the game assets part of Itch. "Animation" has over 400 projects on it already with a few dozen more if you check for "animations."

Hi there, is there any reason why there is no common "Quiz" tag or is it contained in another one I missed?

Not sure if these were suggested or not, but when browsing they don't show up;

• vore
• transformation
• DID
• dominant\submissive

DID is Dissociative Identity Disorder.

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Tag merge requests:


MegaDrive/Genesis tags could be merged, as they were the same system, just called Genesis in North America and Megadrive elsewhere

Lesbian/Yuri tags could be merged--they are not identical, but very close in meaning

Boy's love/Yaoi--these could be merged as they mean the same thing

Strategy RPG/Tactical RPG--you could make a case for these remaining separate but most people I've met use them pretty much interchangeably.

Queer/LGBTQIA/LGBT--these could be merged as they may not be identical to each other but are very similar in meaning--possibly to include Gay

Opensource/Sourcecode--these might be able to be merged, since having source code is often conflated with open source but may be tricky as licensing terms might be confusing

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Thanks for the suggestions. Generally we will merge tags for instances like “sci-fi” and “science fiction.” Often different words have different connotations, so we will not merge those, like your example with Lesbian and Yuri.