You can't capture maskling camps in 2.2. Your Units walk up to them, and then stop and wait for orders. No matter how much you move them around they won't attack the Totem. Has anyone else experienced this?
So i lost my capital sometime in the middle of my game, i eventually brought up a secondary city, amassed a whole army, and reinvaded my capital. The only problem is now, because that city was so far along, once i recaptured it, i started back at a level 1 palace and all my citizens were busy doing their own jobs.
In the next update could you add some feature to make captured cities, well, able to grow? Maybe just something simple like a check-box when you bring up the building management screen; checked indicates it can be worked by a citizen, unchecked means it can't. That way i can redistribute my population to focus on building the city back up rather then having to destroy literally every building in the city just to free up enough citizens to be used.
I get always a bug when i want to load a world of mine. The bug says:"Fatal Error. Bronze age encountered a fatal error. The exception has been reported, and we will try to fix the issue as soon as possible. Check itch.io for updates, as the problem may have been fixed already.
The game autosaves regulary, so you should be able to resume playing without much lost progress."
what can i do to fix the problem?
Where ever you downloaded Bronze Age, if you installed it through the itch.io App there is a button in the bottom right (when looking at the Bronze Age page) called "Show local files" that will open the install directory.
I'm seeing some reported errors around trying to load a save file "Inhe The Island Of Hammering". They could be your errors, in that case you may be trying to load an old (pre-2.0) save file. You can check for it in the "saves" folder in the Bronze Age directory. If the file doesn't have an XML extension then it's an old format save file that sadly can't be opened in Bronze Age 2.0.
You could download Bronze Age Classic to play that save file, though.
Settlements with both land and sea trade will occasionally send a wagon out to drive from one side of a neighboring territory to the other, as if they are attempting to find a land route to the destination reached only by water. This happens whether the sea route goes to a settlement that shares a river for a border or if the land masses are separated by sea regions.
I ordered a unit to embark on a ship, the ship was unaccesible for him, but he still teleported into the ship. Now the unit is forever lost on that ship, because when I click to unload it, game stops for 2 seconds and does nothing. Demolishing the barracks didn't help either.
Also, when I demolished admin center while it was being damaged, this crash happened:
Exception
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Bronze.Common.World.Behavior.UnitCaptureBehavior.AttackStructure(Structure structure)
at Bronze.Common.World.Behavior.UnitCaptureBehavior.StepSimulation(SimulationContext context)
at Bronze.Common.World.Data.Unit.StepSimulation(SimulationContext context)
at Bronze.Common.Gameplay.WorldSimulator.StepSimulation(Single elapsedSeconds)
at Bronze.Common.GameState.States.GameplayState.Update(Single elapsedSeconds, InputState inputState, IAudioService audioService, Boolean inForeground)
at Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Update(GameTime gameTime)
Not really sure where to make suggestions at or if there is a place to have conversations about the game like a discord group or something but its a great game.
was wondering if there was another way to boost moral for the city other then building brewery's if you don't find a place with wine.
also is there a way to find resources after already discovered them maybe like icons.
is there a way to create outpost or another type of building to keep territories lit up or atleast make it to where if you have a settlement on the section it'll stay lit?
There's a couple suggestions threads, and feel free to make your own as well. I've thought about making a discord group, but I'm not sure I have the time to manage that as well as the game.
As znuffy said you can build monuments. When fully upgraded they're a very efficient source of morale. If you have patches of fertile soil you can also build gardens.
Resources show up on the zoomed out map, but I like the idea of a "find a resource" window. Stellaris has an "expansion planner", and that sort of thing could work well in Bronze Age.
Towers are a good candidate for keeping vision throughout your territory. They can also slow down attackers that pass through.
I've noticed a small bug, quite possibly to do with path finding. It seems if a admin building is not accessible by land (blocked by buildings/obstacles), and you try to settle settlers in that region, the computer will freeze up for a good minute or so, until the cursor is moved away from the region. Returning the cursor to the region will instantly freeze up the game again.
ok thanks for the heads up i will remove bridges also i need to reset all the trade routes as the boats are all suck now going back and forth in an area my next question is once a bridge is built does that permanently cut off that water way as even with the bridge gone ships wont travel over the shallows any more?
My game won't launch.
Yes I've downloaded the .net frame thing.
I've created a pastebin of the error report given by itch.io launcher. It's a bit long.
But I suspect what's on line 228 has something to do with it, involving my graphics card not recognizing hidef profile, or whatever?
https://pastebin.com/D9A4V6VE
If I can configure my game differently to not have this issue somehow, please let me know. Or whatever solution you can think of.
Still doesn't work.
Now at the same place it says "Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.NoSuitableGraphicsDeviceException: Adapter 'NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M ' does not support the Reach profile."
The full text output of the error file is here:
https://pastebin.com/ZMsZLwSa
It seems that indiegames like this have issues with my graphics card quite often, is there some setting I can change on my side, either with my system or with game configs, that will make it easier? For this game, specifically? Am I supposed to conclude that my graphics card is too outdated to run specifically games with pixellated 2D graphics? I mean idk
The problem was on my end.
Sorry about that.
For some complicated reason a program was masking my graphics card, using a bit of software that acts like a driver, which would confuse my system for some programs trying to use the graphics card. I uninstalled the program and I can now run the game.
I'm now having a lot of fun playing your game.
https://i.imgur.com/y0jQCKH.png
When this caravan crosses from land onto the bridge when carrying resources, game freezes for a second.
Hey, I'm not sure if this is an actual bug or if I'm just dumb. The game doesn't have any sound even though sound effects and music are on in the settings. Also, the UI is really small on my setup. I can't find a way to make it bigger in the settings, so I'm not sure if it's that small for everyone or if I'm just extra special. I'm no computer whiz so I could be missing something obvious, but if anyone could help I'd be grateful. Even with these problems I love the game. Keep up the good work!
I think a decrease in tin needed in smelters back to 1 and a decrease in tin production in the mines would be good.
This way you can still distribute bronze in your kingdom by shipping tin and smelting it at the settlement where it arrives while at the same time tin is still more valuable than copper.
Heads up to folks: make sure the application is in a folder which doesn't have write permission problems, and make sure it is elevated to run as administrator. Had a persistent crash that almost made me give up entirely on this game. In the end, program files (x86) worked for me. The desktop, C:, etc. did NOT work. Cheers!
I have a bug with the latest version (2.4.4) of the game. Whenever I try to make a new trade route to a city or village the program freezes completely. I can't do anything. I may be the only one who has such a bug, who knows.
I happened to learn C programming language a little so my guess is a loop in a program which never ends. That would explain why the program can't proceed any further. But I'm just a newbie at this so I don't think my guess is correct :)
I have a crash log. Hopefully it'll help.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VRwC3xtDHxtoaLuCltDDixVf2u61LaHn?usp=sha...
Love the game so far, got a few problems with the trade routes in 2.4.5, both of these were found on small worlds.
First I settled in an area where half the area was connected to a large continent and the other half was cut off and surrounded by sea, even though I had the mansion on the main landmass no land trade routes could connect to the settlement, which made my plans of having it be an incredibly safe trade hub disappear.
The next problem was on a sea trade route down a river, I notices the ships were being attacked when they moved alongside the mainland so I went to add way points so they stayed safe, I placed a point down right in front of the dock I was using and the route disappeared with my ships not trading with the settlement anymore, even deleting the trade route didn't fix the problem.
If I build something that blocks a trade route the traders just stop in front of it. I have to clear and rebuild the trade route to fix it. If an enemy blocks a trader they stop and won't start moving again on their own after the impeding unit moves or is destroyed. Cities with both land and sea routes no longer have the issues I experienced before. Routes no longer seem to have problems when they cross many regions, though path finding across extreme distances is still problematic. Overall, trade feels much better, and these issues are manageable.
The enemy sighted notifications can very easily become overwhelming. I had to turn off effects sounds completely. Perhaps there is a solution where you could toggle off these warning for certain settlements, or maybe something more elegant.
Not really a bug, but it would be really nice if ranged units defaulted to skirmish stance, ships included.
Bug: When reclaiming maxed upgraded limestone mine, all resources cap at 70 from 220 and the resources produced of all resources are dramatically lowered into the negatives.
Pop: 87 idle: 7 after: pop 88
happiness before bug: 127 (100%) after: 21 (-24%)
food before bug: 64 (72%) after: 4 (4%)
Housing before bug 115 after: 4
Storage before bug: 220 after: 70
Administration before bug: 0 After: -1
I'm guessing this happens because negative administration.
I found a bug in the masklings mod:
huge lag (the game stuck), when stealing from a building that not product anything that you can steal, Exemple: if i'm trying to steal from a road, when the unit reach the road the game suck. But if i will try to steal from a lumberyard anything is fine. i tried to redownload the game, hasn't effect anything.
Plz fix it so you can only steal from stone mines and lumberyards.
Yep that was the problem! was on a mediteranean map, i've just try on mesopotamia and everything was fine^^ thank for the help.
Realy like the happiness mod btw, i t give me more liberty for desining my city wich i realy like. What are you going to do with the happiness building if you implement it in the base game btw?
Random question which of the three map types (with small size type) are smallest? Im playing Mesopotamia small map its almost 1100 with 10 cities and over 600 people and settling another 3-4 cities, but unfortunately looks like my PC is not that good for long-run of the game. Also is there 64-bit version?
The performance are not the best in the game "Commodore Shawn" says that performance improvements need to be done with the game.
And map types are not, as much as i know, to change the size of the map. They only change the generation features. For example: Mesopotamia worlds generate with deserts and lakes instead of large oceans, Mediterranean generate ocean in the middle, a ring of land attach to the borders of the maps, and more rivers.
Fatal Error on Autosave
Steps to reproduce: Literally the games crashes to Windows with a fatal error when I try and save/quit, or when auto save kicks in. I haven't been able to play any further than the end of the first Winter.
Windows 7 64-bit
Intel i5-4590 CPU @ 3.30 GHz
ATI Radeon HD 3400
16GB RAM
The trade window bug ?!
First of all I'd like to thank you for the great work.
Now, it seems that the trade window doesn't have any scroll bar or any way to shift to other commodities.
I'm not sure if it is a bug or something wrong with my settings, I'm a totally clueless when it comes to programming or any ''PC STUFF'' T.T
I toke a screen shot if it will help.
Thanks
when I tried to establish a trade route between two of my cities, my caravans beelined for the opposite corner of the map. In a different game, I recalled some of my millitary units and the same thing happened. The direct movement commands work fine. If it helps, in both cases my cities were fully surrounded by walls w/ accessable gatehouses.
Okay found it, and, hehe I will translate it, since it is write in spanish, It starts with:
========== 10/07/2018 07:17:14 p. m. ==========
Exception
No se puede cargar el archivo o ensamblado 'System.IO.FileSystem, Version=4.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' ni una de sus dependencias. La definición del manifiesto del ensamblado no coincide con la referencia al ensamblado. (Excepción de HRESULT: 0x80131040)
en Bronze.Common.Services.AiAnalyticsService.Initialize()
en Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Initialize()
"(Unable to load the file or assembly 'System.IO.FileSystem, Version=4.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' not one of its dependencies. The assembly manifest definition does not match the reference to the assembly. (Exception de HRESULT: 0x80131040)
in Bronze.Common.Services.AiAnalyticsService.Initialize()
in Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Initialize() )"
and then there is like 12974 lines repeating the same:
========== 10/07/2018 07:18:09 p. m. ==========
Exception Referencia a objeto no establecida como instancia de un objeto. en Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Update(GameTime gameTime)
"(Object reference not set to an instance of an object.)"
ssoooo....traders, battleboats, chariots ( so far thats all i found ) dont ''recruit'' new units after the first ones die...and even if you rebuild the buildings the buildings just say ''not operational'' and it says the same thing when you build it in another city/village therefore making it impossible to continue traiding after an trader ambush...and theres no way to destroy towers...or order them to attack it making it impossible to destroy your enemy and continuing to endlessly kill eachothers traders ( well after he destroys my trader then it goes one way but before that ) and units...
If the buildings are "not operational", you're probably missing input items. Are any of your item stockpiles 0 or negative? From the sounds of it, you might not have enough wood.
Unlike a typical RTS, in Bronze Age units don't just have an upfront cost. They are a constant drain on resources.
You should be able to attack towers if you declare war on the enemy tribe. By default Masklings are just "hostile", which allows you to kill units, but not structures.
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhh...ok let me have a look....yeah somehow im low in wood :D... and how exactly do lumbermills work? do you place them directly on a tree tile or next to? i know it says to place it on a tree tile but does another one have to be next to it for it to work? do they run out eventually?

I saw this a few times lately, as well the game is LAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGY. i can't play it, only 1/2 FPS, but i'm sure you going to improve the performance on the game.
The crashes happen mostly (as i remember) when deconstructing/upgrading a building(s) with negative amount of idlers.
OK!!! I think this time i have a bug!...so after a while of playing my trade/transport ships started to have a ghost unit taking up space ( after a normaly functional first naval invasion it started to do this ) and later they stoped even unloading units they float up to land but dont unload units ( after a reload it worked again but left a ghost unit behind...usually a skirmisher) after like 20 mins of this happening my save game crashed...now i cant reload the world...
uhh this tribe non stop spams me with this notification. They constantly keeps coming at a rate its hard to even save and quit the game. I have no idea what triggered this. This is my best world so far because i have bad problems with happiness and administration. So I don't want to lose it if it comes down to that.

alright I uploaded here: https://mega.nz/#!QGRFDSzY!xKed8eDun4kYsz_gseuZEkY7uCuSmSrqhzZsse_EIy8
Oh yeah I accidentally clicked on your profile and you have a space age version of this game? I gotta check this out!
I don't know whether these where mentioned before as I didn't read the whole topic, but I found some inconveniances (just started playing today).
1. When building a tower, it has range of view before being built, so I can order it to be built, then stop and it is ultra-quick scouting.
2. The game is auto-saving even if paused for a long time, so it basically saves even though nothing could change in the game.
3. Everytime I receive infomation about productivity boosts, it boosts 0%.
4. When unit is set to explore, it will stop when all land tiles of region are visible. But there might be some blackened squares around which a priori are not known whether they are land or water, so theoretically they should check them too.
5. I have a feeling that bakeries produce food even if there is a slight shortage of wheat, e.g. having 1 farm producing 5 wheat and 1 bakery seems to constantly supply population of 9 (4 initial + 5). I am not too sure about this one though.
I like the idea for the game, but I think it requires too much micromanagement - I need to click each building several times to upgrade or to build (for bigger towns it is really boring), building roads between settlements take a lot of actions etc.
Thanks for playing, and thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for developing this interesting game!
2. You are right, sorry for this one. To be honest I don't like the autosave system as it is, because it interrupts the play, but I don't see any workaround here - I guess it is not possible to make it in the background?
6. I was wondering about one of the annoying things mentioned - to order a construction I need free population. Maybe it would be possible to change this mechanics so that player could construct a queue of buildings to build when there is workforce present (e.g. for building longer roads or wall sections)? What do you think about it?
Hellohello,
Wanted to say I recently found this game and have been enjoying it quite a bit. However I have not been able to progress anymore because trading is not working for me. The trade carts seem to completely refuse to trade half of the time. I have tried to figure out why this is happening for multiple hours on end but I just can't get it to work.
First issue I ran into was my trade carts refusing to import more than once from my allied AI's settlement. I tried increasing the trade limit trough diplomatics, rebuilding the tradedepot, using waypoints, deleting and reissueing the trade route and clearing the road, but nothing seems to work.
After that I just tried to make due with what I had and finding the resources myself, but then I ran into another, even more confusing problem. My trade carts had been exchanging recources between my own settlements for a long time, but all of a sudden all of the trade carts from ALL of my settlements suddenly all stopped what they were doing and started just going west on the map. They were still 'trading for x settlement' and whenever I called them back and reissued the trading again, they just went west again. Again I tried everything from rebuilding the tradedepots + carts and reissueing the routes but nothing worked.
As a result of this my settlements all started to starve and rebel because they were lacking recources(I had seperate settlements for seperate things).
I hope this is information is of any use, I love the concept of the game and I'd like to see it keep progressing.
I can't find crash_log, is it in the starting folder when you click on the extracted file? Also it is in downloads, so no there should be no problem with permissions. Maybe it has something to do with my graphics card? I bought a refurbished dell optiplex 755 which has decent specs but an abismal graphics card and I am unable to play some games due to it, I have obtained a new graphics card that should work for my computer and will tell you if anything changes.
So I'm playing the latest version of Bronze Age and I essentially wiped out as Shontu tribe -- which gave me three Shontu regions. Now, they don't supply the Humitte armies that make up most of my land, so the only reasonable way was to abandon them and immediately resettle them with Humittes.
Unfortunately, abandoning them caused my units to just sit there and not do anything until I saved and reloaded -- and the same problem occurred when I abandoned-and-resettled a second region (the first had a settlement, the second had a walled village).
On a side note, if you take all of a Shontu force's land but don't wipe out all their units, the game thinks they're still active, despite them having no land and 0 population (it doesn't even recognize the people wandering with their oxen!)
EDIT: Speaking of bugs, there's no way to promote citizens or nobles into leadership. As a result, my dynasty has nine adults, four children/babies, and eighteen regions... which means half the nation has to go without a governor.
Sometimes the RNG puts settlements (and other starting constructions) in rather..... sub-optimal locations. I just conquered their neighbor, and now two-province Ashisor is about to lose the shortest war in the history of Bronze Age (EDIT: it took 17 seconds). In addition, one of their provinces has exactly two non-mountain tiles, so it's about as useful as a submarine screen door.
Bonus fact: five-province Bonechopper Tribe (just west of Ashisor) is completely split in two by mountains (quite possibly from another wonky start), so if when I attack the two eastern provinces, the three western provinces are completely unable to assist.
Speaking of bug reports, if the window is too small (in my case, windowed on a 1920x1080 monitor) the settlement list and army list can overlap the lower-left panel. More seriously, on 50x50 maps, zoomed-out tiles can glitch. Yes, I have a mod here (which simply adds a new map), but I've seen both of these in entirely vanilla gameplay .
EDIT: I should also add that a town view of a town in a desert still uses the same exact tileset as a grasslands settlement, even if there's no sign of grass being anywhere nearby.

I've only seen them on the world map -- and only on 50x50 maps.
LATE EDIT: I should add that unchecking Optimize Tile Drawing works, but also really slows down large cities (to the point where hovering over a business in my capital causes 2-7 seconds of lag, depending on building); I'm sure some of this is from drawing in a city with 356 people and 32 nobles, but it also means that I will not be expanding my capital any further!
And speaking of minor bugs, the game resets all settlements to 100% satisfaction on load.
Unfortunately, we have a big bug to deal with: of my four savegames, two of them are corrupt and unloadable. IIRC both of them are on 50x50 maps (one on basemod's Valley map, one either on Valley map or a shrunken version of basemod's Cradle map), which may be related to the problem; after all, they're the same maps which had graphical issues if optimized tile drawing was off.
I recommend allowing multiple saves for a game. Sure, losing three years of gameplay may suck, but permanently losing a save is worse.
The saves: https://download1072.mediafire.com/ytaok8pchqkg/lm4bohrrlh0ruc8/saves.zip
The map: https://download1072.mediafire.com/thew06r98umg/jr7ln87sdhwivyf/atma_maps.zip
Yes, there's only one map despite the filename; ideally I'll make and add more maps, but I'll have to study what we have now to make maps that work.
Bug report 1: The AI thinks building a trade yard is a high priority, even over removing ruins. Furthermore, building trade yards seems to be a higher priority in 3.1.0 than in 3.0.0. As a result, the AI can wind up being ruins collectors:

Bug report 2: The AI is poor at waging war. In the above screenshot's game, even as a ghoul unit was creating ruins, the white-outline force sent a single levy unit to try and defeat their northernmost province's lion nest. They're also more than willing to send a clearly insufficient force to attack a ghoul unit (levy only, equal or inferior numbers).
EDIT: Just after that image I took the empty land northeast of white-outline (carpe diem!) and exchanged maps with the blue-purple just northwest of white outline... who has four more ghoul units causing problems. Therefore...
Bug report 3: As of 3.1.0, the AI cannot handle ghouls.
LATE EDIT: I've seen that the AI obsessions vary. Sometimes they really want trade posts, sometimes they really want farms, but on multiple occasions I've seen an AI build the same building over and over in the same territory.
It oftens seems impossible to get tools to resource camps.
Sometimes the tools arrive after a while, sometimes they don't. It seems to happen more when the tools have to come in by trade (I'm pretty sure they do come in by trade). What makes it really bad (and which is IMHO quite unnecessary) is that a resource camp seems to just shut down while it waits for the new tools, rather than at least work at the level of the best tools available (e.g. stone tools which are available by default). Can we please just have such camps at least running at stone tool levels while it waits for tools?
The combination of these facts make this one a real economy-wrecker. I had a case where I finally get hold of a single tin mine. Okay, I start creating bronze tools in the very same province, which luckily is a city... I set the tin mine to bronze tools. However, turns out my serfs just sort of aren't feeling it that year, or any year, and the mine just sits there waiting for its bronze tools whenever I set it to bronze tools. So whenever I even try, it shuts down the entire production chain leading up to my bronze tools! I mean, really...
This persists when I disable any other demands for bronze tools, and make sure there's available workers, so it isn't even a priority issue, I'd imagine.
By the way, how exactly does attrition work? It seems attrition persists even if the units end up in a region where I have the surplus resources that ought to cover their supply. I think - not entirely sure - I get scenarios where some supply resource ended up negative because of city growth, but the army just keeps starving when that is fixed, leading to stuff like an army of nobles just starving to death on my capital tile that's pouring over with resources.
Well, as I mentioned in the other thread, I am unsure how warehouses actually work. I can see how they offer extra room for storage, but I'm not sure how they directly or indirectly are supposed to influence how things are run. Like, is it for some reason more plausible that resources will be distributed to demands if there's a warehouse? How does it work?
Also, I guess it's interesting that some worker actually has to move the goods physically to the map edge.
About that (I guess it's a different topic altogether): to what extent are good moved around physically in settlements like you see the wheelbarrow guys if you actually check in a city screen? Is this actually done that way in all settlements including computer ones? I also seem to run into performance issues (basically FPS death on quite a new computer) when I get to a later game with bigger cities and computer factions being very busy. Including when on overworld view. Is it actually actively rendering all the particular good transports moving over the settlement maps of all the settlements in the world or something? I can see how that would cause fps death.
Warehouses do two things: they store items, and they increase delivery range. Most structures can only deliver items to 10 tiles away or so. Warehouses have a practically unlimited delivery range.
The wheelbarrow people technically exist for each city (not villages) in the world. Their overhead is incredibly small, though, as it's essentially moving along a number line. I believe that the current performance drag is down to logic running on individual structures, but I'll look into that more after tactical combat.
So the guy you least want to hear from finally got out to testing out 3.2 and, well, the graphics are still not 100%; when fully zoomed out, the visible part is shifted up by four pixels. Sorry. :(

I fear I'm running out of graphics-issue-related flavor text (but hopefully we'll finally squash that last graphical issue!).
Speaking of bug reports, I found a rare one.

See the eight-province red-yellow maskling tribe? The correct answer is "no", as that's actually two tribes with the same culture, same primary color, and same secondary color. They even have similar names (three-province Bloodcrusher Clan in the east, five-province Bloodcutter Folk in the west).
Yes, the odds of a match like this are very low, but obviously it can happen! ;)
Since today is the day for bug reporting:
Also, I noticed some AI issues. This is not an outright bug, but while observing the AI play itself (Preview map) the AI made four errors: two minor, one major, and one catastrophic.
EDIT: There's one more graphical bug (which is probably easily fixable): when scrolling downwards, it takes too long for the next row of tiles to be drawn; as a result, there's a black bar on the bottom before they show up, whether zoomed in, zoomed out, or city view. The only exception is buildings in city view (including roads and under-construction buildings); they show up fine.
EDIT 2: I found another bug; after viewing the AI play itself, if you try loading a previous game, the cult viewing mode will not show any cult data. Oddly enough, the other viewing modes (standard, diplomacy, and happiness) are fine.
Unfortunately I've stopped work on Bronze Age, see this dev log for details