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A topic by Azalyne Studios (Aly) created 7 days ago Views: 2,011 Replies: 92
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Stuck? Need advice from a more experienced delegate to vanquish a challenge or steal a heart? Here's the place to ask your fellows. <3

I got a bad ending, and it said that bad endings do not get as good bonus. Is there any bonus to a bad end? How do we see what bonuses we do get for  a good ending?

When you start a new game, you get a prompt asking if you want to activate NG+ boosts. The game then tells you what boosts you unlocked for each relevant epilogue/romance/origin.

I got a bad end due to the Revaire bug the first time and didn't see any bonuses from starting a new playthrough then, so can confirm bad ends don't seem to give bonuses!

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Does this version have the story mode?

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yup! Story mode is alive and well <3

How would you do political marriage Jarrod and romance Gisette? I managed to get them both to approach me before the matchmaker but I'm unsure how to do it. Thanks!

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I turned Jarrod down in a way that allowed us to still be friends, and then pursued the political marriage path when the option became available while continuing my romance with Gisette as normal. I then automatically got the option of talking to Gisette about marrying Jarrod on the political marriage path.

I did that but Gisette told me I am not cut out for marriage with her brother. Uncertain if that's about personality or skills - I tried upping my self defense and cunning as everything else was quite high, but to no avail. Maybe you need to be immoral/selfish?

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can confirm it's a personality thing - immoral only!

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Hmm I went in with high immoral bar and still haven't received the offer yet with friendship Jarrod and romance Gisette. Maybe i'm just missing something else then unfortunately

Do you remember when/how you got the option to talk to Gisette about marrying Jarrod? I friendzoned Jarrod in Week 3 and chose political marriage so I could secretly romance Gisette. But I ended up getting Gisette's normal romance ending (beauty bonus on NG+)

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I fixed this so it should be more obvious (during Jarrrod's pol marriage conversation) for 1.06 <3

What week is Jarrod's political marriage conversation? I'm still getting Gisette's ending. I've tried with both an ethical Revaire and immoral Corval MC. 

During the W3 matchmaker conversation, I asked about Jarrod until she said that political marriages are arranged at the end of the summit. But I never got the chance to follow up on that?  

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One of the free time options will be to look into political marriages. I don't remember what it's called exactly but I think it's the bottom choice. You need to select that a couple of times to be able to arrange a political marriage.

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I could use some tips on how to achieve the legendary outcomes for all countries at the end of the game. Spoilers below!

What I've managed to do:

- secure peace between all nations, and within Revaire (royals step down peacefully for the rebels)

- max approval with all nations

- host a perfect ball

- be quite persuasive (575) and take every chance I've seen to increase peace/influence people to work together

- have a decent amount of social capital to use to influence the nations towards peace during the negotiations (I've tried different distributions), while ignoring my own interests

- convinced Avalie to work with me towards peace and had Penelope go to Skalt

- decent or better respect and friendship with everyone except Jarrod

- resolved Weaver, historian and rebel secret chains


Can anyone point me in the direction of what I've forgotten to do?


Update: so I've confirmed you need to reform Jarrod to get the best possible ending for Revaire. I still haven't managed to get the legendary achievement to pop, though, so there's something else I'm missing.


Update 2: I think I haven't managed to get the best possible outcome for Arland/Jiyel. If anyone has tips for that one it would be greatly appreciated.


Update 3: success! I was messing something up in a conversation with one of the ambassadors.

Ohh sorry for asking but how did you get the Revaire royals to step down peacefully? Thanks!

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You have to have Rebel approval at at least 50 (halfway point of the bar), and possibly you need friendship with Gisette as well? Then you'll have to carefully navigate your way through two conversations to convince both parties to sort things out peacefully. Oh, and you need to have seen all the Rebel secrets.

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I just got the peaceful resolution for Revaire and I can confirm that you *don't* need to be friends with Gisette, like, at all. You just need to pick enough of the right arguments (and have the stats?) to convince her to work with you.

Was your peaceful resolution as rocky as mine? It didnt seem happy or good at all, and I'm not sure if I got the 'less good' peace ending, or tensions and unhappiness were bound to happen with peace.

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There are a bunch of variations of revaire peace endings. (like six or seven?) but it's definitely possible to have a totally smooth peace.

Not sure if a bug or just I got the worst Peaceful ending and that influences my options, but in the last-ditch effort to increase peace in Revaire, when I choose "Increase chances of Peace in Revaire" my only options are to increase conflict, is that a sign I only barely managed Peace?

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maybe you ran out of spendable influence? (I'll have to take a look at that one)

Definitely not that, I can "greatly influence" 2 options, but the one that encourages peace in general just increases conflict, for example, I have three options in that last choice for Revaire, Increase Peace (which only increases conflict ), Increase Allies who are for Peace, and Argue for better negotiations for Revaire.

By the way, I sorry for the nitpicks, this is a marvelous game that I love and have been looking forward for years. It is every bit as good as I ever imagined! Thank you for it!

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man, it turns out to be an embarrassing bug. Picking them correctly moves towards peace, but the wording is just wrong. Will fix in the 1.07, but in the meantime, remember they are the reverse of what they say. You are using conflict for peace!

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Also just got the Revaire peaceful resolution with romancing Gisette (was romancing Clarmont unlike he dumped me :/ ). I had high Gisette respect and low rivalry/romance/friendship. I'd uncovered all the rebel secrets and I think you also might need high enough respect/friendship from Sayra (which is made easier if you ace the trial).

Ohhh how do I raise rebel's approval? From the wiki, I only see from rescuing Penelope and Summit announcing Katya's legacy? Also for Sayra, would I have to invite her out? I've aced the trial and protected her before but it doesn't open her to me :\

Yeah, this is something I'm not sure about either. I've never gotten the bar to more than 50% before the conversation with Sayra about Revaire's future, and even that I've only managed on my playthroughs where Katiya's legacy is my announced goal, so it seems like I definitely need that bump. I don't know anything for sure, but maybe befriending Clarmont and having high approval with the servants helps? I know you don't have to invite Sayra to an event to get the peace outcome, because I haven't done that before. It might help, though?

Yeah, being nice to servants definitely helps. If you get the gifts from Mrs. White and Sayra and Ria, then that's a sign that you're on the right path. I didn't invite Sayra out either, so that's not required (though inviting her to the Onvu tournament certainly wouldn't hurt). I raised the rebels approval by like 1/4 of the bar in week six and part of that was pulling off a successful ball. The other big boost was my convo with Sayra, which happened automatically. Couldn't say why she opened up to me and not you :(

for mrs. white's gift, do you remember what you did to get it? Was it just rescuing Penelope and the Summit thing? I feel like i'm missing something else to miss the gift haha

I think it's just saving Penelope and the Summit (following Katya's , yeah. I bet that the servant scene before Clarmont's week 1 date also influences it. I was romancing Clarmont on this play through, so maybe that gave me more opportunities too? Antagonizing Gisette during the opening scenes helps too, but I think that may be more counterproductive if you want her to agree to peace...

Just wanted to say thanks for the tips! I managed to get it :)

Congrats!!

How can you even tell if you got the best outcome? I got Avalie's epilogue bonus so I assume I got the best outcome for Jiyel, but maybe it's not the same as best outcome for peace??

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There's an achievement in week six for all legendary outcomes and getting all legendary outcomes gets you a special bonus epilogue (two if you are romancing Jasper and getting his epilogue as well)

Huh, do you think you need to pass all the checks with the ambassadors, then? Wow, I better get my self defense skills up.

Not necessarily all checks I think (although I did pass those), but I was picking one of the other options that gave influence with Arland rather than the peace one. So that was a bit dumb on my part. :P

How do I avoid the mysterious assassin who comes to kill me right before the ball I'm hosting? I'm friends with everyone except Jarrod, no faction even dislikes me, my personal matters are being worked on (Corval delegate romancing Hamin, collecting protective blackmail, finished that line as far as it can go). Did great at the trial and most everything else.....


 My persuasion/,manipulation related skills are off the charts (in some cases literally) and that skill doesn't work. I can scream a bit but he covers my mouth, my self defense sucks but I wouldn't be able to bring that skill up in time even replaying the week and ONLY doing that. What am I missing? What can I do :,(

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According to ye ol' Piratepad guide:

Assassination attempt

-Disarm (Requires 300 defensive instincts on challenge mod and 250 defensive instincts on story mode)

-Scream (Requires high friendship with Ana or being Avalie's ally. If you're Avalie's ally, Pen, Cordelia, and Ana can come too if your friendship is high enough)

-Seduce (Cannot succeed) [tragic doomed romance lol]

Info here: https://web.archive.org/web/20170316041605mp_/http://piratepad.net/eKim6ADYGk

Thank you!!  I definitely have a friendship with Ana but I guess it's not high enough :,(  as for Avalie's ally, I've gone to all of her events,  the last one being when she invited me to hang out in the last week and said she was unused to having friends, and we danced together. has high respect, friendship and rivalry. did I miss a special allyship scene D: 

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To become allies you need two conditions to open up the chance to convince her, then pass a persuasion check:

During her friend date on week 6, you will get an extra set of choices if you saw the secret acene in the garden that week, all the weavers scenes in previous weeks, and have enough respect+friendship:

- I will be satisfied...

- Truthfully,..... Friendship + | Respect ++

- I'm worried, Avalie (Ethical only)

-- I suppose... - Avalie will not become your ally

--I don't think that...

---Let the subject drop. - Avalie will not become your ally

---Attempt to convince her

Pass 455 > Persuasion- "...You are a manager of miracles, Charname."   - Avalie will become your ally

Fail < 455 Persuasion - Avalie will not become your ally

awesome, thank you so much :) 

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Also- I remember on the old forums there was a guide for how to avoid potential breakups, some were harder than others. It's been awhile, but I remember that to avoid Clarmont's breakup scene we needed to have seen certain secret scenes while exploring that tell you about his backstory. Hamin's wasn't that difficult to avoid, currently struggling with Zahad's. Would love any tips people remember for avoiding the breakups in general, maybe important enough to get it's own topic? 

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For Zarad specifically (taken from the pirate pad)-

  • "Well I disagree! Vehemently!" (First choice doesn't seem to matter here either!)
  • "It wasn't your fault. Not what happened and not that you weren't able to stop it."
  • "You aren't saying the great Zarad can't deal with the unexpected are you?"
  • "I knew what I was getting into with you, Zarad. And I chose you anyway."
  • "Whatever you have done, I know you well enough to know you were doing it for the right reasons."
  • "Attempt to convince him that you aren't bothered by what he's done and are in fact happy to join him in the dark." (Immoral)
  • "Attempt to convince him that whatever he has done, he isn't the terrible person he thinks he is, and together you will find a better way." (Ethical)
  • Choices in order 324142 is the default, I think - worked with tomboy countess (low persuasion in comparison)
  • if you have 450 > persuasion it helps too Isn't it 400 to pass without choosing all the best options? It is for Clarmont and Emmett.

Oh man thank you! I hit the wall with him and was screaming because my persuasion suuuuucked

do you have a link to the pirate pad? the old forums are all down so I can't get the links from there, and the all rounder 7kpp blof on tumblr seems to have a lot of dead links as well :,)

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjMV_WC3uevdsybfZXdRU0Sj2dBhVUcLEu9axLx06n8/...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y_B9hy8pjgzc3DEJsU5JaxE5GmBoUY5mHOUc5SuwrBE/...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14qc5uB3YFNeMBzP4-y4yod9SQ_SUaHzZxzJxpFq7UjI/...

Weeks 4, 5, and 6

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Do you know what the requirements to get any of the additional options are? I have pretty high persuasion. I only get the first set of dialogue with "Well I disagree! Vehemently!" but I just auto fail and it results in him breaking up with my Corval MC without any input from me.

You might not have gotten his romance high enough. Have you seen all his date scenes up until that point? Make sure to spend time with him. And make sure you give good answers during those dates to get the romance boosts. I know you auto-fail if you aren't close enough to your love interest.

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Yep! I went on all of his dates and choose the right responses. It might be that we weren’t close enough, maybe. I’ll restart and see what’s up. Thank you. - Came back to edit this, it was the romance that wasn't high enough.

I'm going over my achievement pages and there are two that I'm stumped on. From week 6, what's the achievement after "A Political Affair" and before the romance ones? And, what's the final achievement on the last page, after "Behind the Ball"? Is it the one for getting all the secrets, and if so, is it still bugged?

Sorry for another question, but how do I get Cordelia's special epilogue? I've gotten all her friendship scenes and max her out. Do I need to increase Hise's negotiations for her?

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I’ve gotten the epilogue for her multiple times, and have always achieved the best outcome for Hise and Corval. Here are some of the things I did that I think helped with that:

  • won the ship race in week 2 (gives a massive Hise approval boost)
  • took a lead acting role in week 5 (I believe this gives Corval approval if you succeed)
  • Told the Hise ambassador to negotiate with Corval for Henri’s relationship
  • Spoke up at every opportunity in the Hise and Corval negotiations
  • Suggested Hise and Corval form a joint navy
  • Reminded Hise and Corval that they weren’t always that different (needs the History stat to succeed IIRC)
  • Suggested that there are beneficial trade opportunities
  • Promoted peace between Hise and Corval (didn’t need to spend any social influence to do so)

Hopefully this will get you the best outcome for Hise and the Cordelia epilogue!

Oh interesting! I've never gotten the joint navy option for negotiations. Do you remember how you got that option? Would I need more warfare knowledge?

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I got it with 15 Warfare, so maybe, maybe not?

I got it thank you! :)

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I decided to put links to all the guides/documents I've been using from across the internet in one place, in case any one else wants to use them (also because managing all these tabs is breaking my brain).

Old Week 1-3: https://pastebin.com/crpWr8NL
Random Guide: https://web.archive.org/web/20170316041605mp_/http://piratepad.net/eKim6ADYGk
Week 4 Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjMV_WC3uevdsybfZXdRU0Sj2dBhVUcLEu9axLx06n8/...
Hosting Events Guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y-njdJ001WFKX1nf6q1vo57VOfQbKAZuc0-KsPmS...
Character Creation Guide: https://kisari.tumblr.com/post/106552124335/seven-kingdoms-origin-info-guide
Welcome Dinner Guide: https://azalynestudios.tumblr.com/post/108022404476/itsneverfaraway-seven-kingdo...Boat Race Guide: https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Boat_race
Trial Guide: https://leahazel.tumblr.com/post/162180039364/7kpp-guide-to-getting-the-perfect-...

Great list, thanks for collecting everything in one place! Yeah, I got so many tabs open when playing this game, all the guides + stat calculator + wiki. Studying for the summit is real!

The piratepad guide is from the old forums, I believe, a lot of people worked hard on it. I hope eventually some of those people come back to play the game to see the fruits of their labor.

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Fantastic additions! I'd like to add the build calculator and this guide that covers weeks 1-5!

You are a hero and an icon. I was so mad at myself for not saving the piratepad guides.

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Thank you, but I don't think I deserve the credit. That link was posted elsewhere on this forum, and I've just been using it a lot. The rest of them, though, I'll take credit for headhunting~ (teasing)

Hi, I'm having trouble friendzoning Jarrod and am wondering if the RevaireMC is locked out of that option? I have done the following: 

W1 - on his date, select option that loyalty is earned; pleasant conversation to reinforce better behavior; in all frankness 

W2 - get blush scene

W3 - before matchmaker scene, select that I am aghast. But he tells me that's a stupid complaint when we all know the best choice.

I don't think I failed any persuasion checks because I chose character creation options that would give me 75 manipulation and always select options that give +5 insight.  

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you might be just falling short of the persuasion threshold, which is pretty high, i think it's 450 in challenge mode (manipulation and insight aren't the only persuasion stats, there's a bunch of other skills!)

Thank you! I assumed I had enough because I passed the previous persuasion checks, but you are right about Jarrod needing high persuasion

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I've never had difficulty getting Sayra's confession on week 6 before. I was on a widow build that was designed to unlock all secrets, so I had every secret from weeks 1-5. I remember that I didn't get Ria and Sayra's gift, and I thought perhaps that was because I had her declare the wrong ambition (making history instead of Katyia's legacy) since I'm convinced I did everything else right. Aced the trial in week 4. Friendship and respect were fairly high, but not high enough. 

However, my main widow has the same ambition, and she definitely unlocked Sayra's confession when I played her last (...about five years ago). She didn't invite her to an event, either. I'm pretty sure her second event was the midnight picnic, which Sayra never accepts. That's usually my default week 3 event for Corval and Revaire MCs. I guess I could try and load my oild saves to check, but I imagine that too much has changed between now and then.

Can anyone help me solve this mystery? 

How do you wipe your progress and start fresh?

I want to re-unlock all the achievements now that alpha's out (and re-read all the text before using the skip), but I can't work out how. I've gone into the game files and deleted everything in the 'Saves' folder - no luck. I feel like I'm missing something obvious - anyone know how to do this?

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I had the same issue, here's what worked for me (in addition to deleting the save files like you did):

1. Press Window Key + R to get the Run dialogue box

2. Type %appdata% and hit OK

3. In the window that opened, go to the folder Renpy

4. Inside Renpy, find the folder Seven Kingdoms The Princess Problem and delete all the files inside it


That finally let me start totally fresh. Hope it works for you!

This worked to clear my saves! No luck on resetting the achievements or the text 'seen' flag, but I'll take it. Thank you!

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I've added an experimental choice during the game mode selection to hopefully let you do this in 1.06 *crosses fingers*

What skill checks do I need to pass to survive the horse ride on my own? I keep getting the message "You know enough self-defense, you should be able to do something to survive" and dying two messages later.

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There's a series of stats checks, you don't have to pass them all, but you have to pass enough of them.

Poise + Courage (smaller value checks) Quick thinking and Defensive instincts (bigger value checks)

The you know enough line only gives you 10 out of the 50 points you need to save yourself (that's the middle pass line - higher defensive instincts would net you + 25)

I'm not sure why I can't get Avalie in an alliance. The guide says that you need to discover the weaver chain of secrets and the garden scene which I'm sure I did. Is there a specific piece of dialogue with the final secret in the forbidden wing that signifies you completed it? The two previous secret scenes is the week 1 garden and week 3 I'm sure I got. The guide says you first pick the option that mentions her backstory, then there should be another option the next set of choices but I just see gossip, fashion, and onvu. 

i think you need to have 50 or more secrets too, then in the forbidden wing final secret, there should be an achievement about weaver

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Yeah, you are probably missing the final weaver scene, in week 6. From the piratepad guide:

-Forbidden Wing requires seen the Weaver scenes in Week 1 and 3 + Secrets has to be 50 and above | Needs at least 275 Interpersonal Insight

Yep, that was it. Had 275 Interpersonal Insight but investigating the noise gave me -5 for +10 courage and that would always put me just under the amount required lol.

Is there any dedicated guide to get all legendary ending for all nations ? I'm trying to get Avalie's ending and I got her to be my ally so I assume I haven't unlocked Jiyel best possible ending yet.

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I haven't seen any guides yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if some come out soon <3

tips for Legendary Jiyel:

-make sure Jiyel and Arland both know peace is in their interest

-make sure the agree to open borders and cultural exhange

-Bring them together to study history

And then make sure you have been convincing enough /or used enough influence that they work together happily and peacefully

Thank you so much ! On week 7, I chose to ask Lyon for his ideas, joint history library, and chefs training in different nations. Are they the 'correct' choices or is it more probable that I missed something along the playthrough ?

Also, thank you so much Aly for your hard work ! I just finished two backgrounds playthrough and the game is marvelous.

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Oh how did you ask Lyon for his ideas? Do you need to have a high friendship with him?

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Probably so ! On one playthrough I remained good friend with him and another I romanced him !

Those options are OK for legendary peace! Did you push the ambassadors toward peace as well when you met them? You could also try to spend more social capital on Arland and Jiyel peace during the negotiations.

I think I did both of them, and did greatly increase the chance for peace for Arland and Jiyel too🥲

And did you get the option to speak up as the ambassadors were talking during the negotiation?

I heard there was a 3p ending with Gisette and Jarrod, and I'm not sure how to get it. Can anyone offer me any tips or a guide on how to do so?

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Romance Gisette while following the political marriage path, on week six go for a political marriage with Jarrod, your MC should go to Gisette and ask for help. You'll have to play an immoral character.

Okay, this is embarrassing, how do you get Sayra to agree to try for peace? I've been banging my head against that wall for awhile now.

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If you mean during week 7 before Revaire negotiation, I believe you can't be too cynical, but you also can't have your head in the air or too naïve. Choose the realistic option like forging peace via negotiation and compromise. (My mc was noble and ethical so this could varied🤔)

Does anyone have any stats advice for the various secrets chains?

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This wiki has stat check information for the secrets (https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Secrets).

There's also this guide (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jXpoXz29_ew9lGkNmYL7C9QNVZfgaebL/edit?gi...).

Great, thank you!

Also, does anyone have any advice about how to keep Ana from dumping you?

Can someone help me with Sayra?

I played a route with Clarmont and had no problem unlocking her confession. 

I'm having another go, and she didn't open up. I invited them for breakfast, choose Katya's legacy, got her gift, defended her, got all the rebel secrets, aced the trial.... I don't what I'm missing? I'm at half way point with rebels aprobal, and maximun with commoners.

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from another reply I made:

To get the Sayra scene (in week six) that gives you the option to side with the Rebels, or try for peace you need:
first- have discovered the existence of the rebels (following the rebel secret chain)
second, pass an insight 85 check
third- have Sayra's rival less than 10, friendship more than 30 and respect more than 40
Sayra's friendship and respect are boosted by  choosing katyia's legacy, being nice to the servants (introducing yourself, comforting ria, sticking up for sayra when the delegate is bugging her, ) inviting her the onvu tournament,  or the girls night, saving Imogen at the trial (this is a big one, it gives a 20/20 boost for the best performance and a 10/10 for saving her) 

How to avoid Zarad breaking up with you