Just curious if sometime in the future there'll be a guide for the endings?
same here! there's so many choices and everything i don't think i'd be able to get them all on my own x.x
i got that ending too! it'd be nice to know where exactly i went wrong,! i tried reloading and picking a few different options but i still ended up at the same place. ;_;
oh, interesting if that's the case. i also sided with other people and yet i ended up getting the saorise ending a few times in a row no matter what dialogue options i changed. kind of puts a damper on wanting to replay :\
If you still need help with Heath's third ending: basically coddle him, tell him you can't live without him (codependency), then eventually switch sides to join the Golgotha with Heath when given the chance right before end game.
Can you please tell me, how did you get the second ending with Heath? I play for Iscari, Gotgotha a Mavaar, everytime choose differently a didn´t get it :-(
I can't even remember, it's been a while. I thnk the 1st ending was with Iscari and the 2nd was for Mavaar since the 3rd is for Gols. Are you in a relationship with Heath in these playthroughs? What happened during the endings, because in both 1 and 2 there's nothing special happening. Just mentions of how he disappeared after the last battle and you talk with the leader on how you feel about it so idk if you've received something different during the end.
so wait.. is there no at least slightly happy ending? like not a fairytale happy one but one that's at least... idk feel good?
Spoilers (I guess)
Ultimately (Marcus special) it boils down to some extremely meta bs about the world not being real and everything being subject to change.
Personally I didn't find the endings in any way satisfying.
That aside, no, no happy endings - I think MC being the new leader of LA mosquitoes is as high as it gets. So don't break your back trying to find fault within your play style.
Indeed, there are 4 endings (Saorise, Randal, Andrei, MC being the new ruler), and without spoiling things, you need to see how your LI ends up acting in different situations to get "special" endings (emphasis on Sao and Randal).
I think, specially with Heath and Markus we are just finding one ending despite our choices, because according to the extras it appears to be at least 4 for each guy if im not misremembering?
From everything I have seen (on Steam and the Discord), all the endings are sad. Someone said that they aren't bittersweet, they are just bitter and I kind of need to agree. I haven't had any ending so far that has been satisfying.
Ya I'm guessing most of the endings will be more tragic. We'll have to wait and see till all routes have been attained. I feel personally my ending with Randal was more bitter sweet, but it does depend on how one portrays such feelings. However, a general happy ending would be nice, if we're gonna go through like 95% of mostly sad endings😅.
Thank-you so much for the extra info, it's much appreciated!☺ I myself haven't used the red choices yet, but now I'm intrigued and also worried😅😭😭😭. I'm still really excited though!😝😝😝 I just love a good plot!
Ohhh thanks for the insight! I was wondering if bits of the plot were unlocked through each House and each route, and then you'd get a "true" ending.
I was working on Randal's special ending, picking the red options as they came. But somehow ended up with the same endings. What kind of influence did you have with the various factions?
Sadly, I didn't keep the save and don't remember other than it was pretty high with the Mavvar. Maybe the faction reputation isn't the (only) problem though. Depending on your personality, certain dialogue choices won't show up. For example, if you are constantly polite, certain rude responses aren't shown, so maybe this is the issue? If you try to get Randal's special ending, you might want to act like your typical Mavvar fanboy, believing in the revolution, putting him on a pedestal and everything.
Word of caution: No matter your route, if you are going for the special ending and you reach the point where you can get intimate with your mentor, then you missed your chance and are set for a "normal" ending. You can't have both hanky-panky and the special endings.
I have to agree that the endings are really depressing and there isn't even a bittersweetness in them. I spent a lot of time, trying to figure out to heal our mentors or some sort of calm ending that doesn't lead to destruction or a broken guy. While I'm aware about the genre Drama and Psychological, I felt like the Markus Special Ending was - as a friend agrees - kind of lazy? Like an easy way to weasel out why things happened and why the choices had the effect they had. I felt like the real choices that mattered were the ones which faction we choose.
Ending spoilers and basically repeating what former poster said
The common endings are 1. If you get killed by a certain sewer dweller (you can avoid this by running away or as Mavvar you can survive by fighting back), and 2. If you're not high enough with a faction and get killed after announcement (this was also a huge bug in the earlier version)
The most endings for the guys are obvious: The faction you choose at the end - Saorise, Randal or Andrei. Making up three endings for each guy. Randal has one more with your own rebellion which you can achieve by deciding to make your own house (balance your reputation above 50 for each house, convince Randal to join you, Markus will mention that you have to infiltrate the houses... I suggest if you have problems with one house to help Andrei, so you meet Morgan who offers you to boost your reputation with one house in exchange to introduce her to Andrei. Figure out the rest.)
Then we have the romance/friendship endings for Heath and Randal (technically his faction ending). Easy as said, romance them. Markus will go away no matter what.
Finally the three special endings, which you can get by taking the red choices - to see them you have to be the same house as your mentor. Prepare to be shocked, cry or well, disappointed.
Endings spoilers end
All in all it was a great game but as many other players I share the same empty feeling after spending over 20+ hours on the game and waiting so long for its release. I also tried to figure out what the devs tried to convey with the hidden messages (like to try investigate on the texts you see in the backgrounds or CGs (Randals biker jacket saying in Latin "The world wants to betrayed." or something) and endings names of the guys (John 1.5 for example, a bible verse) as well the song playlists you unlock once you acquire a special ending) but I wracked my brain with the choices already.
Hmm, that's unfortunate. With games, you have to feel accomplished in some way. This game is really deep, and really well done - the art is beautiful, and the setting is great. But if the goal is reached and still feels empty after one revelation or another, that shouldn't be the lesson or the message. It's almost like beating a very dead horse with a stick.
Ahhhh I hate sad endings,, I tend to avoid games like that, but I reeeally loved the art in this one. I really wish there was at least a little satisfaction...
Thank you for the information! I did not know you could get the special endings only when you are in the same house as your mentor, I must have gotten that right by accident and so I didn't notice. (Might explain why the red choices didn't work for another user.) Truth to be told, that's a little bit lame, especially since it means that the final "true" ending is exclusive to Golgotha vampires, and I already have the feeling that the game is tilted in favor of Markus/Golgotha. Don't get me wrong, they are my favorite house and character too, but it still feels... slightly unbalanced?
Edit: Finally managed to start my own rebellion on Randal's route, yet his second ending still eludes me. Might be a bug, or maybe there are some other conditions? Second edit: I finally got it by siding with Andrei, but then letting him get murdered by Lazarus. (Must have agreed to Lazarus' deal beforehand.)