How to return the old controls in 0.9.0???
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maybe you? i said to autor of question: u can still download 0.8.2c version, in 0.9 version u can't return the old controls. get out fuck'in kid
You can't. Also the majority of players seem to enjoy the new controls myself included.
You just have to get rid of that old way of thinking/controling and the controls then become very intuitive(imo even easier and better then old ones).
The only problem is you can't spam Kerfur/Maxwell and the such.
You only need to dedicate half an hour to an hour only to the controls and you'll see it will click(did for me at least and a good chunk of others).
The only gripes i have seen is people not being able to switch E and Hold E around.
Well the impression I've been getting is the complete opposite, that everyone seems to hate the new controls. It's not something you can gauge accurately without a poll (And hopefully not one restricted to just people that are willing to give away their personal phone numbers and other private data to Discord Inc. just to join the server).
But onto the controls themselves:
It is not about "getting used to them"; I already have and can operate well enough with them, and yet I still think they suck.
Tap/Hold does nothing but unnecessarily introduce delay *and* room for error. Time management in VotV is crucial, specially early game, so adding any delay to day-to-day actions a bad idea. If you want to mitigate that by reducing how long you need to hold E, you're turning the controls into a matter of skill and learning your timings. And making controls skill-based is something that runs completely opposite to v0.9's purported mission to simplify the controls.
Being able to switch E's tap and hold would accomplish nothing. If you've been playing at all you should have soon realized different contexts call for toggling R's swap one way or the other: You're doing life to life activities, you're often going to want R-tap to be hold. You're collecting trash, you're going to want R-tap to be collect. So if you were looking to be efficient with your time so you can fulfill your 5 signal quota and still have time to clean by doing that, you're dooming yourself to switching back and forth, never able to cement your muscle memory.
And picture this: the drone's here, so you go Hold the drive box, Grab the tape box, and Collect the zip disk. And then you're hit with a "not enough" space on that last step. Why? Because you're Holding a drive box, and under the new control scheme, with no interaction menus you no longer have any way to tell the game you want to Collect the zip disk specifically, and are left at the mercy of the game's arbitrary criteria that "Collect" must always collect held items first. Not only is this feature loss, you have to juggle items more as a result: again, completely counter to this idea that the new controls are simpler and more intuitive.
No matter how you slice it, the new controls are a downgrade.
Entirely disagree, and my experience with everyone I've watched says so, as well.
The new controls are more streamlined, offer more precise controls, and are pretty easy to adjust to. Nostalgia is great, and new things are scary, but the new controls are definitely not bad compared to the older, clunkier ones where you had to hold ALT to drop something.
Pray tell, how is losing the ability to collect things while you're holding a tool or container "more precise"? Or, say, the metal detecting and digging example someone else brought up later in this thread?
What exactly is more streamlined about trying to use a container, but accidentally grabbing it because I didn't wait quite long enough, and flinging it around as I move the mouse because I was expecting the menu to open up? And many more instances of use vs grab or hold vs collect shenanigans brought about by turning the controls into a QTE? Even boons such as precise placement are affected: are you yet to experience the frustration of placing a book on a hanging shelf, and accidentally
Like I said at a later point in this thread, there were far better solutions and alternatives to Alt being annoying. Something I've yet to see anyone provide, is lived examples and experiences where the new controls actually made their workflow smoother in ways that only tap-vs-hold and the removal of most action menus could.
And I must point out again: "It's just nostalgia!" and "You're just scared of change!" are not actual arguments. They're rude attempts at dismissing others' experiences and opinions.
You mean... Pressing R to pick something up or holding it to equip it instead of having to scroll through the menu for the option, the menu of which changes based on the object? Holding R to put it down again? Pressing E to pick something up HL2-style (same key as HL2, too) or holding the key to just use it? Having to hold E instead of scrolling down a menu again to find the proper option to access a container? The button press duration of which being entirely customizable in the options, specifically so you can avoid nearly all the 'QTE' issues you're apparently having? Having the option to drag large props with E or drag specific points by just pressing Shift and E? Not having to hit ALT to drop things — a modifier key that hasn't been commonly used by mainstream Steam games aside for 'alt-tabbing' purposes, for close to 20 years now?
And no, I haven't run into the problems you're using as examples, I'm sorry to say. If anything, any of the hurdles I did bump into would've been made worse with the old controls and lack of precise placement.
On the topic of anecdotal experiences, just about every other interaction has been made easier and a lot smoother for me — and the vast majority of players I've watched play the game recently. The only thing I'd agree with you about is not being able to pick up loose objects with a tool in hand is the tiniest bit inconvenient, something that I just assumed was a symptom of this being an entirely new control scheme in an experimental build.
If you want examples of my own; one of the games' main tasks—manning the terminal stations—has been made a lot easier and faster for me.
Total buttons needed: 2
No multi-button presses needed.
You can absolutely say you dislike it or that you have grievances with it, but that's literally more streamlined than before. Like, objectively. By definition.
And, you're right. The "nostalgia" and "afraid of change" comments aren't proper arguments, I'm sorry if that offended—but it does still ring pretty true. I haven't heard very many arguments here for the old controls being better other than just, "I preferred it" or "I was used to it".
Like I said in earlier comments, too. I would much prefer if the game gave players the option to either stick with the new controls or use the old ones. Aside from the work needed to implement it, there'd be literally no downsides to that, in my mind.
Ok, I need to reiterate: I'm talking about improvements that can only come about only as a result of the hold-based controls and the removal of context menus.
I like the precise placement tool. I like the capability to put held items in containers without worrying about my own inventory's capacity. Both save me plenty of time juggling with the basic controls, and (this part is important) would have been just as helpful under 0.8's Alt-based controls. Because these tools work and are useful regardless of the controls or steps (...within reason) required to access said tools. And, as an added point, I consider collecting items while you're holding something to be as much a capability and as niche as storing held items. And you can bet I'd be complaining about the later being removed too if that ever happens.
Now, only tapping E once to grab something instead of having to hold E? That is valid as a control. And it's a change that I absolutely love. I don't think I've mentioned it, but I had to rebind all my controls from E to LMB just to reduce the strain induced by having to hold down E. I've been referring to these controls by the default bindings for convenience. But back on point: Thing is, it is valid as a control change yes, but not as a control change that can only exist under a hold-based scheme - There is nothing inherent to an Alt-based scheme that would preclude this change from being available in 0.8.
(And by the by, yes, as you may surmise from how I like not having to hold down E to grab, I conversely really dislike having to hold E to scroll through the few context menus there are now).
Also, I must point out that having the option to drag large props with E or drag specific points by just pressing Shift and E is how the game already worked, just swapped around: in 0.8, holding E on a large object drags it by a specific point, it just didn't make it visible with a line as it does now. And holding Shift+E dragged said object around as a whole, a capability I think was added on 0.8, if not 0.7. I do believe it to be a fantastic change to swap these around and to make the original drag-by-point highly visible and understandable to the player: accidentally tipping tables over was a major source of frustration to new players. The one new change here with 0.9 I believe may be that now dragging an object as a whole also allows you to rotate it with mousewheel, bypassing the need to drag by point to rotate furniture, and inherent tipping risk. And of course, these all are changes that were perfectly possible under 0.8 and by no means exclusive to 0.9's scheme, by virtue of the fact most of it already existed at the time.
As for your drive example I must preface this by saying it took me a while to understand what you were showcasing, and I even had to boot up 0.8 trying to se what the difference was (since far as I recall you only needed E to grab and move around drives), before it clicked that you were showcasing the ability to swap held items with hotbar items. Again, a welcome change, but not one that required a hold-based scheme to exist. The default key uses middle click if I recall? But I may be interpreting your video wrong still, do tell me if that's so.
By the by, booting up 0.8 has also made me realize a couple things, one you might like and one you might not:
Last but not least, the two points I've yet to address. My QTE and my R to hold/collect issues, for which I'd ask you to reread what I said earlier, but I'll summarize:
So, to answer directly:
Yes, I do mean pressing R to pick something up or holding it to equip it instead of having to scroll through the menu for the option, the menu of which changes based on the object. I do mean holding R to put it down again. I do mean the button press duration, of which being entirely customizable in the options does little to help with the 'QTE' issues I'm having.
However, no, I do not mean anything else out of what you've listed, because on top of being positives, they were already possible under the old scheme. And a big part of this is so because most of what you list are capabilities, and not controls per se.
I appreciate your preferences but, respectfully, your response kind of reinforces my take that the predominant issue people have with the new control scheme isn't that it somehow is worse than the old one, but because they just preferred it arbitrarily out of habit. To be clear, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, you're absolutely allowed to prefer it for any reason you want, but it isn't a fair argument against nor a valid criticism of the new control scheme either.
I'm going to try and keep the reply to the examples concise:
For the drive example, I was also showing the notably improved flow where I didn't have to press Alt+R to drop something, which was an incredibly tedious yet incredibly common action the game requires throughout it's play time. I could pick something up with R, hot-swap it in the inventory, use the next item in the queue, and then drop the initial item - with the same button. Like I said in my earlier comment, that's an improved, streamline control scheme, by definition.
Am I saying that the old one bad as a result? No, not necessarily, but it was more obtuse and harder for new players to learn.
I'm also going to say, I'm not really happy or unhappy with what you do like or don't like about the old/new systems. I'm not trying to be petty and score points against you or trying to prove that your preference for something is wrong. My entire argument is that the new control scheme is, in fact, objectively streamlined and simpler than before. That doesn't mean it's better, if only because that becomes an entirely subjective point.
Ironically, I don't miss the context menus. At all. I appreciate that they're still there to a capacity in 0.9, but I never use them unless I have to. Like in the case of the backpack and microwave, I wish it were gone and that I could Active and Use the item just by pressing/holding a button instead of having to scroll down every time. Same with the garbage collecting. You say it's incredibly convenient to just have to scroll down once, but it resets for a variety of reasons. I would know. I launched 0.8.2 and tested it. If your mouse hovers over a different item, like a stone, or a piece of trash, it'll reset and you'll need to scroll down again. Compare that to just pressing R. There's no resets, no accidental misinputs - I just press R for everything I need, and I don't need to worry about it.
As for the QTE argument, I... Just don't see it. I'm sorry.
You say that it's a choice between a "harder QTE" or wasting time when you, in an earlier paragraph, praised the old control scheme for having to scroll down a context menu for nearly every action. You objectively waste much more time doing that, especially if you overshoot the option you want, doing that than just... Pressing R for literally 0.5 seconds longer — or more, or less, depending on what you prefer. I'm not trying to be disrespectful when I say that's an argument born entirely out of preference for the older system. You're valid in preferring it, but I don't accept that as a critique of the new system.
Likewise, you're right. The collecting-heavy phase of the game, where you clean up the base and spruce it up, is very reliant on the controls being able to flow smoothly. And again. The new controls are better for that. You say that having to hold key presses are a drain on your sanity, but I flew through it even when I was still unfamiliar with it. The millions of context menus in 0.8, and earlier builds, and having to scroll for each one were a drain on my sanity, because the game never wanted to make doing something direct and easy.
If the issue you're having is that you don't like re-learning the controls — totally fair. But that's, again, an argument based on "I just prefer what I'm already used to" and not any sort of tangible feedback that could help improve the new controls or convince anyone to abandon it.
And, of course everything I listed was possible in the old control scheme. My argument was that it was easier now. Simpler.
Your response was literally:
"What exactly is more streamlined about trying to use a container, but accidentally grabbing it because I didn't wait quite long enough, and flinging it around as I move the mouse because I was expecting the menu to open up? And many more instances of use vs grab or hold vs collect shenanigans brought about by turning the controls into a QTE? Even boons such as precise placement are affected: are you yet to experience the frustration of placing a book on a hanging shelf, and accidentally.
Like I said at a later point in this thread, there were far better solutions and alternatives to Alt being annoying. Something I've yet to see anyone provide, is lived examples and experiences where the new controls actually made their workflow smoother in ways that only tap-vs-hold and the removal of most action menus could."
And I listed almost everything you did, and more, as well as provided my own example of how the new control scheme did, objectively, streamline the processes and were not as cumbersome as you made them out to be. I took issue with what you said because you used hyperbole and made it seem like the new controls were just so much worse in general, for anyone who used it. That simply isn't he case. It's the exact opposite in fact. The new controls add in more capabilities and improve the controls, no matter how you wish to define them.
To quickly add: You're valid in preferring the old system regardless, but calling my earlier responses dismissive, as if I just replied with "get good lol", instead of challenging arguments based off of subjective opinions is not fair nor productive. And I'm so far not convinced that I was wrong. But all the same, I apologize if I sounded or if I'm even coming across now as stand-off-ish. That's not my intent.
Alright, look, I promise to get to the rest of your post later when I can, but for now while I'm on break I've only time to address one here and it's the one that's puzzling me most because clearly our experience with the context menu are being completely different for some reason :
If I scroll to an option, look away, then look back, the option remains. It remains if I look at a different, 3 option object (including tables). it even remains selected if I look at 4 option object, such as notebooks. It does, indeed, reset when I look at a 2 option object, in this case drive boxes. I scroll again, and this time rather than looking around, I spam E and collect everything: once again, the option remains selected unless I look at drive boxes.
I have to point out this is 0.8.0, rather than 0.8.2, as it is what I had immediately available, so I can't rule out something having happened since that would disrupt this behavior.
After some more fiddling, seems to me the issue here is the old "Interaction menu reset" setting, which I had disabled. For all I know I may have had it that way since 0.6, if it was there back then still. And indeed after enabling it I get the behavior you describe, where every new object you DO have to scroll to whatever option. So, I can understand now where you're really coming from, it would have driven me nuts to play like this too. Probably why I had that setting off.
And likewise, I do hope you can understand where I'm coming from now, having now seen how easy it used to be for me to scoop up trash and drives out a table and what it must have been like going from that to 0.9 and having to deal with a choice of either constant delays or purposefully signing myself up to re-relearning how to use R later in the game.
And I have to punctuate the part about me not liking having to relearn controls. Which, hey it is true, you're not really wrong there, and I doubt anyone likes going through that process. But I'm not so naïve as to base my views of the new controls on having to go through the 0.8 to 0.9 relearning process, an once in 2-3 years event. I'm basing my views of the new controls on the possibility I may have to go through the process of re-relearning how to use R every time I want to start a new save.
Moving on, I've also been practicing your workflow and there's something I'd like to know: how low have you set the delay, exactly? I'm at 0.18, from the 0.2 default. I am literally incapable of lower, I've already had to keep increasing it to stop accidents. And 0.18 speed still doesn't feel as fast as it looks in your video.
And on the subject of possible differences: what's your mouse's mousewheel like? Every mouse I've owned over the past two decades had the wheel move at granular increments and stop, which you can feel slightly click under your finger, and only a couple have had a button to let the wheel rotate freely. So as result I very rarely overshoot, usually just undershoot. Is your mouse different in that regard? Your habits, maybe, preferring to let the wheel rotate freely? I've noticed which mouses that let me unlock the wheels rotation, I usually need to unlock it to achieve the same max scrolling speeds as mouses that don't, so I can understand if you prefer to leave it unlocked 24/7.
And listen: I spent the weekend learning the new controls and giving them a chance before posting, precisely to ensure it wouldn't be nostalgia glasses or anything of the sort clouding my judgement. This entailed weaning off my 0.8 muscle memory, fiddling with the delays, realizing I couldn't go lower and trying out swapping R's tap and hold functions and weaning my still nascent R muscle memory, cleaning up the base as I finish getting used to the controls and it's quirks, learning new habits such as performing a hold->store unless I'm storing multiple items at once to save myself the time from holding E on a crate, realizing my choice to to swap R's functions was now holding me back and undoing that, weaning off my (now slightly better rooted) R muscle memory, and then playing longer still trying to cement all I've learned. ...Until I realized the treehouse was broken and I'd likely have to do a new save once the patch drops.
The above paragraph not meant to be an "oh look how I have suffered!", but rather me showing you that I have put honest effort into getting used to these controls and ensuring views aren't colored by nostalgia, an irrational distaste for change, nor preferences borne solely from past habits. In essence, this is meant to put into perspective exactly why I found your initial comments about nostalgia and being scared of change as rude and dismissive, as it essentially erased any of my lived experiences with 0.9. I am content you acknowledged that earlier already, and entirely glad that you are now actively engaging with my points and deeply elaborating on yours. And I want you to extend this to the idea that my arbitrary preferences may not be solely due to old habits, here.
And as much as I'm of the idea that criticism is no less valid merely because the critic lacks the expertise to provide ideas in how to improve things, I must point out that I did provide such an idea. I really wanted to delve into that at first, with tables and comparisons between usecases and such, but it is getting really late and this post is getting long enough already. So I'll have to guess ahead and summarize*:
Consider an updated 0.8 Alt+context based scheme that gets any 0.9 goodies, as long as they don't collide with existing controls nor involve having holding down a button perform a different action than tapping it: We're talking storing a held item directly into a container, precision placement... all that stuff.
Consider 0.9's Tap-Hold.
Now, consider a modified 0.9 Tap-Hold scheme that gets any 0.8 goodies, under the same restrictions: Far as I can tell, what's missing here is a way to collect an item if you're already holding something. "Q", for example, since context menus are out.
Consider a fourth, nebulous control scheme, of which we know tapping R behaves as in 0.9 by holding/placing items, and tapping Q collects items. This is based on the idea I had floated: to let players rebind those silly Alt combos to something else.
Compare the four. What I believe right now would come out of it is these points:
So, flexibility. Which looking back, is also the thing I liked about context menus: the choice between scroll and E, or a sequence of keys if you're not accurate with scrolling. Having the game allow for arbitrary preference is a good thing. I know you've made note of this, supporting the idea of having a toggle between the two, which had both schemes been equally terrible then yeah, it'd be a form of flexibility. Delays, their buildup, and the alternatives being higher user error or periodic control re-learning phases in a game where time management matters and errors set you back, made Tap-Hold worse either Alt+context or potential Q+R schemes, but seeing it in the light of a potential modified Tap-Hold? The difference between old Alt+context and old Tap-Hold is close enough they're now merely equally terrible instead.
This is why examples such as your drive workflow are so critical and matter to me, more so now that I do understand the point of your example better. Thank you.
I'm going to bed for now, and I gotta make a note to propose this in the feedback form tomorrow as the more I think on it the more promise it shows. I've no answer for what keybind to use that would do the equivalent for E and Grab/Use... but I'm not a gamedev. There's a reason why I think you shouldn't be an expert that's capable of good feedback in order to be able to give criticism.
* Spoiler warning: I did not summarize, by any metric.
This is the "UNSTABLE SHADOW SUPER TEST" build so we just need to give them constructive feedback on how the new control scheme is a miss. It becomes more problematic when it's pushed out in full.
My main gripe with the controls is holding to interact, I never like that in games at all. Second is the throwing held items. You have to hold R + right click before you drop the item, because dropping items require you to hold R now. It's just a control contradiction. Alt + right click would make sense to toss a held item.
I'm guessing this release is just a way for the dev to hit the promised release date (Halloween), not to gather feedback. The real source of feedback the developer actively listens to must be the patrons who get access to the Patreon builds. The problem is, gathering feedback from the Patreon members isn't the most viable strategy, as those people who pay for the locked builds are psychologically more biased towards supporting the dev's decisions ("I'm paying for this from my wallet, so I might as well justify my spendings") instead of giving valid criticism. The result is us ending up waiting a year for the build that was subtly sabotaged by the dev's suboptimal way of engaging with the community instead of delivering shorter release cycles for the public builds for everyone to voice their concerns, vote in opinion polls, etc and gathering diverse, uncontaminated data.
Probably right but even so there's a lot of people on their patreon, so that's a lot to listen to. Have you been on their discord? They have forums open for specific aspects that people can discuss in length. One of them is the likes and dislikes regarding the update. One of the things I've been seeing mostly in a lot of these discussions, one even with a poll, was the controls. There is a push to having a wider range of custom controls, which in my opinion would fix a fair amount of complaints. The other one to address would be the mandatory tutorial which people are also expressing some annoyance on the discord.
I don't think they're getting their feedback ONLY from their Patreons, but it would make sense to prioritize them until it's released to the public.
Regardless, we'll all have to wait and see what they'll do with everybody's response.
The ability to hold F to change your flashlight beam baffles you? Other than that, it's literally the same.
Also, most of the controls are similar. I really feel like this is a case of new=bad.
Completely agreed, my main issue is really just with the holding E to interact instead of to grab an object. Hopefully the dev can improve in the full release
Yes! I would love more control customization moving forward. I think it'll clear up some of the frustration people have with the new control scheme.
i learned the new controls instantly, it is a skill issue yet they are still bad, back to the drawing boards
It actually is, and that's why you barely see it in games now. Don't know why I'm getting downvoted, I'm right. Ya'll need to curb your autism.
It's a bit nuts to me in a world where "Alt-tabbing" out of games and using alt for third party software has been a thing for over 20 years, people will defend the use of ALT as a modifier key for super commonly used actions as the perfect or objectively better option.
I was very used to and attached to the old controls, but the new ones aren't bad.
I think just even more proof that we should have the option to change between modifier / modifierless controls.
I for one cannot play nearly any game without the use of modifiers. Ctrl / Alt modifiers are so ubiqutous to me. using hold actions and "mouse button to use" to replace them is WILD.
Something like Alt+R is indeed not ideal, but the solution is not to introduce stupid schemes that were only first born as a way to port PC games to console. The solution to rebind, and let players rebind Alt to a different modifier, or better yet rebind Alt+R as a whole to whatever single key or key combination players think works best.
And Alt or not, there was no reason to do away with the action list menus on most items, nor hiding the few remaining menus behind holding E.
Dismissing people's concerns as just "haha you think change is scary" is nothing short of disingenuous, and serves only as a way to shut down discussion.
I've supported and played the game for years, I have the old controls engraved into my brain, yet I still learned the new controls within 30 minutes of playing the game and found them a lot more streamlined than the old control scheme. I really think this is a case of "new = scary" for a lot of people, which is fair - I think a toggle between the new and legacy controls or just more customization would be great - but other than that, no idea what all the complaints are on about.
I appreciate that you speak for the majority of people, but it seems like the majority of people tend to disagree. People do not like the controls, as simple as. Being able to switch back and forth would have been a far better solution, I agree, than just throwing this outta nowhere. But all I've seen from you is talking down to people who are offering their criticisms and telling everyone that "so many more" people love the new controls, which is the opposite of what I've seen.
Well, I apologize if I came across that way. That wasn't my intention. I was just expressing my opinion, and echoing the sentiment of very nearly every other person I've actually seen play the game, personally.
According to the stats, the supposedly terrible control scheme hasn't really stopped the game from experiencing one of its largest spikes in activity:
Nor did it stop it from going through one of its larger waves of popularity, neither.
And, of the ones I've watched, I haven't really seen many of them complain, or any of them say that the newer controls are objectively worse than the old ones.
So, aside from the complaint threads on the forums here, usually with repeating names for those threads, I don't really think it's fair or accurate to say "the majority of people dislike it" either.
You're free to disagree with me though, and like I said in my other comments, I think having the option to choose which control scheme you prefer would be ideal, specifically so both parties are satisfied. That being said, if the argument against it boils down to just "I don't like it", then — yeah — I'm going to disagree. I don't mean it to come across as dismissive, but I also don't think there's very many argument to be made other than "I think you're being biased".
Well, yes, this game has a very niche audience that many consider to be one of their faves, me included. I myself saw the update from TomatoGaming and Charborg about the secret update, and I immediately went to download it because it was so out of nowhere. Considering it was a big jump from 0.8.2 to 0.9.0, yeah, I can understand why people were so excited, myself included. I still am very much and enjoy a lot of the other additions, aside from things like the fuses and the ATV battery, but whatever, those are just minor headaches. I agree that my views, and those I've seen from the vast majority, are biased. Yeah, the old controls were ingrained in my head, easy and enjoyable. And your side, as you say, is also biased towards the new control scheme; both are biased. I've learned it already, it's whatever, but I do not consider it to be better still by any means. But I myself and others can say the same thing, where the people we see play think the new controls are a step backwards. That's just unavoidable.
i agree, i liked that it was clunky and kind of stupid (affectionate). it made it funny and it definitely stood out.
the first thing i tried when changing the tapes was slamming them both into the container and the recorder. none worked. I was heartbroken 💔
I spent so long trying to get the floppy into the tower before realizing it just didn't work
That's... Still a thing though. At least with all of the old stuff, you can still slap drives into their slots and so on.
You could just try it out and form your own opinion instead of just listening to other people. The controls are objectively better. People are just having autistic shitfits because change scares them.
I'd give it a shot if I were you, the complaints are blown way out of proportion, and the majority of people I've watched have been entirely fine with it, if not actually more satisfied with it. Judge it for yourself.
agreed about the controls but you should still try it out for yourself, a ton of new stuff got added and its pretty cool to look at
The pre-0.9 controls are honestly what made the game accessible so I'm kinda scared to see how much its gonna change that could possibly make it clunkier than it was.
you press and hold E until the options pop up, then mousewheel up/down to the option you want to use, then release
its.. clunky
haha, no. we love this game so we do our best to find bugs, send feedback, explain our own words and try to do something to make this game better.
and please don't insult autistic ppl. or gtfo.
the controls are more "streamlined" in the way an iphone is more "streamlined" than an android. Now I have to wait to do many things I could do in an instant as long as I held one key. Some of the changes are good though, like interacting with heavy objects, since the ambiguity of what you're doing until you start moving it has been taken away.
