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Getting your controller connected Sticky

A topic by FPV Freerider created Apr 05, 2016 Views: 161,183 Replies: 317
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How about the Turnigy Evolution?
How do I get the Evolution work with FPV Freerider?

EDIT:  Turnigy Evolution works fine with FPV Freerider - it's plug and play (well, calibration makes sense ;-) )

Developer

I don't own a Turnigy Evolution myself but I think it should be plug and play, connected via USB. Might depend on what operating system you are running it on. Make sure you don't have vJoy or Smartprpoplus installed when connecting via USB, that might mess things up. Let me know how it goes.

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Thank you very much for your answer!
Actually I have no clue how to connect the Evolution to the computer. If I plug it in, nothing happens (no sound or anything in the device manager). Could this be because of SmartPropoPlus? Shall I deinstall it?

Update: Tried to deinstall SPP, didn't help. I actually think that the USB on my Turnigy Evolution is broken. =(

Developer

Since I don't own an Evolution I'm not the best to give specific advice on that radio. But, if you go into the device manager I do believe you should see something like a joystick or HID-device when you connect it, if it's working correctly. Maybe you can find some info in the manual of the radio.

The USB in the first Turnigy was broken.
So i got a new one and gotta say the Turnigy Evolution works fine with FPS Freerider! =) Plug & Play

Developer

Thanks for reporting back, I'm glad to hear you got a new one and that it's working fine!

what looks to be a new issue on OSX / macbook ...

during the calbration process and before each flight, the software sees the sticks as all at their minimum range (not centered).

To work around it during calibration, just wiggle the sticks on the first screen before clicking ok.  You will see the little circles "wake up" and go to  center position.  However where it gets annoying is you need to wiggle sticks before each takeoff.

Developer

That is an issue with Unity's input manager (The sim is developed in Unity). It seems to be more pronounced on some devices/operating systems. I have been unable to find a solution. the best workaround I found for now is to add a small delay so that the player has time to move the stick a bit so that it "wakes up". (It just needs to be nudged a small amount).

Hi, I'd like to share a problem I encountered with my DEVO 7 on my Mac laptop.  The problem I had was during calibration, the pitch channel was not being seen but all the other channels were working correctly.  So to resolve this, I changed a couple settings on my transmitter.  The settings were noted on a thread over on the rcgroups.com forum that I'll link below.

For the connection between my laptop and the DEVO 7, I'm using the FMS USB RC Flight Sim adapter cable I bought on eBay.  It's from China, so it took a couple of weeks to get here but for $9, it's well worth the investment!

As for the transmitter settings, I created a new model under the Model menu (copied the model for my F210 and renamed it SIM). Then verify your type is set to AERO, not Heli (it did weird things to the throttle channel in my experience). Now for the actual settings under the Function menu, select EL-FL and set POSOU to + 100% and POSOD to +100.  The thread I'm referencing can be found here.  Just don't forget to go back and select your actual model when you go and fly your actual quad...you might not want to fly with those two changes!

Developer

Thank you for sharing your solution/settings!

Hello tried to setup my Futaba 18SZ to use with FPV Freerider. Bought the RC USB Flight Simulator Cable for Realflight G7 / G6 G5.5 G5 Phoenix 5.0 Flysky FS-I6 FS-TH9X FS-T6 FS-CT6B USB Dongle  but noticed that this doesnt work. Which USB dongle do you use for Futaba?

Thank you for your help.

Manuel

Developer

It might be that you need to change some settings on the transmitter itself. I found this info on another forum:

"For Futaba 18SZ - You'll need to configure the Trainer Port function;
Linkage menu > Trainer 
ACT/INH - ACT
Teacher/Student - Student
Channel mode - 8 Ch

Both stereo and mono adapter cables appear to work with the Futaba trainer port, however caution is required here. A correctly wired adapter when installed turns the Futaba 18SZ and 14SG on. "

Source and more information: https://steamcommunity.com/app/410340/discussions/1/359543951733047725/

I have a Turnigy Evolution Transmitter and can not get it to work with FPV Freerider. When I go to the calibrate page, my controller does not move any of the little dots on the page. I do see in Control Panel that my transmitter is present, as it is called a "HK Emulator".  How do I get the Evolution to work with FPV Freerider?? Thanks, Chris

Developer

The Turnigy Evolution most often seem to simply work plug&play. You might want to try and see if you can calibrate it as a joystick in Windows own calibration, just to see if it is properly recognized. (In the Control Panel).

Also you might check:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have any of that software installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.

Tried it on Windows in a VirtualBox VM - worked perfectly (except of course the graphics isn't the best and is a bit laggy).


Tried it on Linux next: The throttle axis settings were switched up. Up was left, Right was down. I ran it again, problem disappeared, but the calibration was still buggy. I have managed to set the trim & scale settings manually to make it work, now it's running fine. Awesome!

Restarted the program in Linux: it forgot the calibration settings. It's messed up again, axises on the throttle are switched up again.

So questions:


1) Any way to make the Linux version save the settings?

2) How to make the Linux version display on a specific monitor? I have 4 and it always picks the one furthest away from me.


Thanks in advance. Ps. I'm heading to buy the software anyway. In the worst case I can continue to use the choppy Windows version, but hopefully you can help me to make the Linux version work properly (and not have to re-calibrate every time).

Developer (3 edits)

1. I remember a few other Linux users had the same problem, at least one can be found a bit further up in this thread. Don't know if he managed to find a solution.

It should automatically keep the calibration (as well as other settings) in Linux as well as on all other platforms. You can alter some values in the custom settings menu and see if those are being saved. If not, perhaps you can investigate so that there is no permission issue that keeps it from saving (I'm not familiar how these things work in Linux). (In linux I believe the Playerprefs are stored under "/home/your user/.config/unity3d").

Good thing that you at least managed to get it calibrated properly. As you probably noticed - if one axis is reversed, you can simply reverse it in the trim settings (Click "Calibrate Controller" on the main menu and then "Skip to trim settings")

My guess is that the whole thing has to do with the joystick drivers on Linux not being consistent in some way.

Some Linux users seem to have success using this program: https://github.com/Vantskruv/wejoy

2. In Windows there's a command line parameter -"adapter N" that can be used to select which monitor you want to run it. That only works on Windows though as far as I know. Hopefully someone who is more knowledgeable in Linux will be able to chime in.

( Here is a list of the runtime command line parameters: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/CommandLineArguments.html )

1/a. I only managed to calibrate it once when the two directions weren't mixed up, but it got messed up again when I started the program the third time.

1/b. It wasn't an axis being reversed (up is down, down is up), it was the two changed up (up is left, down is right). So there's no way to fix it on Linux at the moment.

1/c. I'll check out wejoy, thanks.

End result: I'm using my laptop instead, booting win10. Having loads of fun. I'm still terrible at it but in my defense I'm starting from Acro with high rates so it will take a while. Sometimes it clicks and I make a bit of progress and it feels awesome. I probably won't even try flying my quad for a few more weeks before I get the hang of the controls.

Developer

1b: If the automatic stick detection gets the sticks messed up, you can click on the little circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking OK) when going through the calibration procedure.

Glad that you are able to use it on your laptop at least. I'm sure you will find that any practice you put in will pay off later in real life flying.

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Developer

First of all you can try to simply connect your QX7 directly via USB cable, that usually works well.

As for the Orange RX dongle, according to HobbyKing "Mac users will need to download the relevant HID drivers", perhaps you could check with them (or wherever you bought the dongle) if they have suggestions on how to get it working right.

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I looked through the comments but didn't find my exact situation. I have the FlySky SM 600 controller. What do I need to do in order to get this to work with FPV Freerider? It almost works...I get throttle and pitch, but no yaw or roll, no matter what I do. I tried everything that I could think of last night, spent a good 3 hours playing around with it. Any help would be appreciated

In fact the controller that I have is one that is listed at the beginning of this forum, as a controller that is supposed to work with this software: 

 6ch Flight Simulator Controller....so, what am I missing here?

Developer

Usually when some channels work but not others it is because there's a conflict with some other input device. Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers/graphics tables connected at the same time.

Also,  make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.

(And, some controller works just fine on some hardware/operating systems, and not so well on other. Therefore there is never I guarantee that any particular controller will definitely work on your particular system).

hhmm. Well I'm not aware  of any other devices being installed.  I guess I fall into the "no guarantee" category

OK just a little followup here. I did manage to get my controller working after all (with some help from a friend.) In my case, the controller has 4 settings that you can choose for it to emulate different modulation schemes. We got it to work with the  switch that is at the bottom of the controller set to the second setting from the bottom. It says something like ACR or something like that . Sorry but I don't have it in front of me right now.  But with it set there we did get it to work on Windows 10. However it would not work properly on my Windows 7 computer. Obviously your mileage may vary, but hopefully this might help someone else out

I'm using a Sony PlayStation joystick on Windows 10 and some sort of converter to USB. I see Windows has recognized the USB input as a Twin USB Joystick in settings, but nothing happens at all in the calibration screen. PS: There are no lights on the joystick lighting up but the blue converter box has a light on. It really feels like there is no "power" or that the joystick is on?

Thanks in advance,

Mary

First I apologize for not looking thru this forum. I didn't see a search for it and about 3 pages in, I gave up looking for my solution. My controller did have an on/off switch for ANALOG so eventually I left that on. I used a tutorial from YouTube on how to calibrate my Twin USB Joystick in the Device Managers settings: Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Devices and Printers | right-click it. And at first, that didn't work. I had two joysticks listed under that window. I kept doing it over and over again with the first one listed. When I selected the second, joystick listed, I could finally see movement on the screen. I calibrated there and then I calibrated inside of FR and it finally worked.

I did have to re-calibrate a few more times because I was losing some control in the right stick.

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Hi,

I saw other people got my problem. I run macOS 12.10.5 and my Taranis Q X7, although being recognized by macOS and usable with other apps where you can choose which controller you want to use, is not recognized in FPV FreeRider at all. Circles don't move and I have no idea what to do. My Turnigy-i6s works fine in comparison.

Do you know what is going on? Thanks!

Developer

Usually the Taranis should be plug and play on macOS. Make sure you don't have any other controllers/joysticks/tablets connected, that might cause a conflict. Also, if you have installed some kind of custom USB driver such as USB overdrive, that might be something worth looking into.

Nothing else is plugged in and no custom USB driver is installed. I'll try with other Mac, but it's really weird considering it works flawlessly with a Turnigy i6s.

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Hey,

Everything works with my Turnigy i6s so the set up is good, and you don't really need a USB dongle with Taranis radios because of the mini-USB port, it's automatically recognized as an HID device. It's detected by my Mac and works great with other software asking you which input controller you want to use (crrcsim for example). Freerider just doesn't seem to want to choose it, it's weird…

Hi!

Can anyone help me calibrating Taranis Q X7 for android device? I've tried to do it on numerous devices like LG G4, Nvidia Shield K1 or Philips Android TV and there's always something wrong with yaw, throttle or pitch. All the devices seem to recognize my Taranis Q X7 but its calibration sucks :( I love FPV FreeRider on my Windows 10 laptop but it would be great to use it on mobile device, so I could take it with me everywhere.  I'll be very thankful for your help :)

Developer (1 edit)

As it works fine on your Widows 10 machine I presume you have the Q X7 set up with a model according to the Taranis Windows setup guide. 

On Android it usually works plugged in using a default model. That is, don't use your windows model setup on your Taranis, try with a default model setting and see if that makes a difference.

With the default model setting it works like a charm!!!! Thanks a lot, you`re great and FPV FreeRider is worth every penny!!! Now I can take my simulator even to work and practice on my lunch break :) :) :) :)

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hey guys good afternoon,

i have a sony xperia z5 and i'm connecting my android phone with the otg cable to ps4 controller but wasn't recognized by my xperia. However, it was recognized in wireless and bluetooth, but the game not recognized the gamepad when is linked.  Maybe i'm doing something wrong or devices are not compatible. Can you give me a hand? thanks guys. Att. Nicomaster

ok, i got it, the control is linked, but now i can not set the fpv mode in 3D to watched with the googles, help!

Developer (1 edit)

Glad to hear you got it recognized.

Side-by-side 3D is not implemented yet, so for now if you want to use goggles you need ones that have a single fresnel lens (so that you see the entire screen with both eyes).

Thanks for your reply guys, do you have possible date when is gonna be available the Side-By-Side, 3D Implemented?

Cheers, and thanks for such a great simulator :)

Developer

There are other things higher up the to-do list, so no dates for now. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten about it :) Thank you for the feedback!

Thank for your feedback!!!! Keep the great job!!!!!!! 

Hi there,

first of all, thanks for this super nice game! I used it on macbooks a lot. I recently switched to a freshly installed windows 10 64 machine with the same usb dongle from before and here it goes: freerider recharged does not see the joystick input anymore.

I am using a dongle that looks exactly like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Flight-Simulator-Cable-Futaba/dp/B00DR4I4O0
(the one that is also linked in one of the support pdf files: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSaHNwcmZuQm1NeG8/view?usp=sharing)

Now, windows 10 sees the joystick interface in the windows game controller settings (labeled as 'PPM'). Windows lets me also calibrate all axis as excpected. I also moved the PPM gamecontroller entry to index 1. Nothing helped so far.

I also tried other random generic joystick hardware, which is recognized by windows, but not by freerider recharged.

Any ideas?

Best Regards

Developer (2 edits)

Hi there and thank you! Hmm does it not see the joystick input at all?

That is, are you not able to move any of the little circles on the calibration screen up and down?

What kind of radio are you using?

Sometimes there's a conflict if you have other joysticks/controllers/input devices connected at the same time (even Wacom tablets can sometimes cause a conflict)

Best Regards

Thanks for the reply! Yes, i was not able to move the circles.

Except now, after i uninstalled drivers for a 3D Connexxion Space Navigator. After this uninstall everything works as usual.

Unfortunately i need this space navigator for work, so either i uninstall/install that 3dconnexxion drivers at every freerider session, or there might be a fix in the future.

Best Regards

Hi, great simulator/game :)

I just spent a couple of evenings figuring out how to get my FS-i6 radio connected to my Linux Mint 18.2 computer. Figured I could share my procedure. 

1) Aquire or DIY a trainer cable to use with the computers microphone input. (I tried a cheap USB audio dongle as well, but the resolution on the input was quite bad!)

2) I found the following branch of ppm2tx to work on my computer after installing some missing packages: https://github.com/rhwilr/txppm 

3) Connect controller, turn it on, launch ppm2tx, enjoy!

Before doing this, I already tested Freerider with my Arduino Micro hacked Esky USB controller, and it worked perfect!

Developer

Thank you for sharing, I'm sure that will be of help to others!

Could somebody pease help. I have a futaba 6exa and have recently purchased a 4 in 1 flight simply USB cable and dongle but when I go into calibration only 1 input per stick is being recognised although it all works fine on the other included simulators. Any help would be greatly appreciated.  :)

Developer

Here are some general suggestions that often help when a few of the channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" generally doesn't work very well).
- Check if there's a switch on the dongle where you can select different modes.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

thank you for the reply free rider.  I'll have a look to see if I need to uninstall the programs and I had acro selected so maybe swiching to heli may help. As for reassigning  channels the tx is not that advanced.  I'll keep you posted as to the outcome :)

yeeehaaa I have got it to work. It seems the problem was that I didn't have the tx selected to heli as heli is not available on the futaba t6exa so I swapped to a futaba ff8 and it works perfectly.  I will be upgrading to the full version soon. Can the fpv camera angle be changed in the full version?  Thanks again fpv freerider :)

Developer (1 edit)

Great, glad to hear you got it working! Yes, the fpv camera angle can be changed in the full version. Thanks!

Kudos for providing Linux support (running Fedora 27)!  Bought a cheap USB cable, plugged it in (Turnigy 9xrPro) and it worked right out of the box!

Question - every time I run Freerider I have to calibrate my controller.  Is there a way to 'save' the initial config and reload it when starting?

Developer (1 edit)

Thanks! Glad to hear it's working on your setup.

It does in fact save the config automatically, and once you have calibrated you should never have to do it again. But, I have got several reports from Linux users that the calibration does not save (or that it suddenly 'disappears'). I haven't been able to find out why though. Perhaps it's has something to do with permissions - Unity (that is used for development) stores the data under /home/your user/.config/unity3d 

You could try checking that location to see if the data seems to save or not.

Or, perhaps Unitys input manager is not working very well with all Linux distributions.

Hi. Ive been trying for days to get my new TaranisX9d Plus to be recognized by Freerider. Ive been through the Windows Joystick setup numerous times and its all working fine. I can use it on Velocidrone and Liftoff but no matter what  do when I load Freerider I dont even have an option of a USB Controller. The only option available is for a keyboard. I even completely removed the drivers and reloaded them. My Laptop is only a week old. Where do I go from here???? I would really like to use Freerider

Developer

There is always an option for USB controller, just click the button on the right side of the main menu repeatedly to toggle input mode.

(USB Controller/Keyboard/Touchscreen)

For it to be recognized correctly on Windows you need to set up the endpoints according to this document:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing

(There is also some general tips in the manual).

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