It's exactly what the name says. This thread is spoiler-friendly, so feel free to discuss whatever you please about the game.
I'll give you a few spoiler-free answers.
I also wanna know if the choice of god in chapter 15 matters.
Yes, but maybe not in the ways you think. Picking Aphrodite does not make things hornier, although that is something we could add in 0.5.1.
About the P/Clement inconsistency, when you finish the game please tell me what you think about it. I'm curious.
Thank you for your input and kind words, it's extremely appreciated.
I completely forgot to reply to this, lmfao
Obviously after what happened I have more questions than answers, but...really, I just forgot that Jean explicitly said the letter was from Clement and was lying. I suppose I'm missing something, since as I learned from the survey there's a way to actually figure this out before the twist happens, so I'll need to replay
Relax... one thing I really dislike in VNs is stumbling upon bad endings because you didn't guess the correct dialogue options. We don't do that. Some events just play out differently.
This may sound funny but I tried "Io" and "Argos". Surprised there wasn't a passing mention at the very least.
Well okay I was doing that for giggles but still...
I've only just started playing the new update, but this choice had me Cackling outloud, and I lost my breath laughing, I should really give a proper review soon but this choice had to be caught
On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being "slight dislike" and 5 being "active hate", how much did you dislike Kota (not Jean) getting involved?
I'm not 100% sure on how to put it into words, but if I had to put it on a scale, I would say 2 or 3. Not enough to ruin the character of course but it kinda bothers me. Thinking about it, I do like the scene in the garden where he's concerned with MC taking advantage of Asterion, and later trying to potentially coax Asterion's feelings out. That was good and touching. The later scene with MC and Kota I like less (especially since he's conveniently drunk off his ass.) I actually thought at first it was going to be about his own love, or the red dragon he's looking for, but it just turned into him ripping away MC's insecurity, as well as Kota's opinion on gay people in general (which I feel is even less necessary since this is a gay visual novel and he's tolerated Luke up to this point.)
Thanks for the reply! This is important info for us, and we're gonna watch out for how other people feel about Kota's involvement in this.
Making a gigantic build like this allowed us to make a very big build up, which I think was important to make this part of the story come together in a way that felt right, but that also meant we didn't have the kind of frequent, step-by-step player feedback that would let us fine tune every part of the story. I feel like this is maybe what happened here.
We'll most likely give it some time to catch more feedback and see how much we can improve these scenes, what parts in particular need more work — or if they require a rewrite.
This is probably not a very definitive answer. Still, thank you for the input. It's always very useful when people can articulate what specific parts aren't working as well as the rest.
I'd just like to add that for me, it made perfect sense. Not only is he a river god who has seen people in all their different states of humanity, he's also spending time around Luke and realizing hidden strength he once wrote off. A river is ever flowing, but Kota has chosen to take root for the time being and is changing from that. I think this is reflective of how he is interpreting rebellion. It's a little awkward, but there's a lot of experience, second only to Asterion.
I think having Kota of all people give permission to you to not necessarily pursue things, but to feel these things, is an important part of the power balance. You are going through something similar to Asterion by not allowing yourself to want. Of course, yours is discipline, whereas Asterion's is embedded, but that's why Kota acts as a sort of link connecting the two to their natural conclusion. I don't think any other character would have that effect, although Luke likely softened you up to hear something that's simultaneously more gentle and more powerful.
(Actually, Luke's comment about Mom and Pop shops is slightly damning. Because it showed you were still considering Asterion as beneath you and something to be handled instead of given full agency. But it's understandable why you're not ready yet. It's a perfectly reasonable response to all that power.)
From the few times I ran through it, I wasn’t able to find the kid, either; I replayed that specific section several times and I was never able to find him. The stuff with the hotel becomes more apparent later on, so don’t worry about it too much for now.
Going to the library and selecting non-fiction adds a book to your inventory, and you can change Oscar’s outfit at the tailor, but those are the only “minor” permanent changes I noticed— I’m sure there’re more if you keep looking!
Anyway, from what I can gather, it seems that three major things can change as a result of your actions in the Hinterlands (two of which you already brought up):
On that note, I tried a few different permutations of the Hinterlands, and I was only able to ever complete 2/3 of them (first route I ended up helping the tapir god and strengthened their relationship, and Pedro says they’ll bury the 12 on the road). There could be a way to get all three, though!
As caketo said, getting to the hotel becomes more apparent later on. As for finding the missing boy, you can't rescue/find him now but it's possible for P and Storm to set the groundwork to solve that mystery at a later (hopefully not much later!) date.
I can give a few details without saying anything truly spoiler-ish. In Build 0.6 Oscar will join the hotel's staff, and this happens to everyone regardless of whatever choices you made. You could say he's part of the main story.
As for P and "Nick" (as you called him)... Well, for most players only one of them will remain in the hotel. If at the end of the build you saw a scene of one of them going out of the hotel to have some alone time, that character will leave and get back to their regular life.
If you did not get that scene in your playthrough, you should be able to pick which one you want to join your team. But if you have the Leader background you should be able to get both of them in a single playthrough.
There's at least one big secret no one found so far, I'm just waiting for it to come up.
I'll only give a few spoiler-free answers.
There's more stuff to do in the hinterlands than what you described. There's also more things you can discover, even if you cannot act on them just yet.
There is not enough time to do them all. You have to choose your priorities.
We might add a few more little things to see in the Hinterlands in future versions. We had some ideas we couldn't put in because of time constraints. But that definitely won't come in with a time extension, as that section of the game was designed and balanced with that time frame in mind.
Well it comes to a point where it just says "living male relative" (after descendants, siblings, and nephews). If it turns out they're descended from Zeus that would be such a pain.
The skip button is being a donkey so it would be a while for me to check myself. Was "reverted to the old man" really the EXACT words?
It's not really a plot hole, it's just that we couldn't explore this thoroughly just yet. Hermes is the overseer, the deed as a physical object reverted to him. But he gave it to the old man, who requested it, and in turn he passed it on to the player character.
Given the revelation that Clement has been deceased for a few months, is there any indication in game as to who the old man who gives us the deed is?
There are enough clues to figure it out, but you'll have to play a lot of branches of the game.
On my first Playthrough i thought the oversser must be Zeus or Hermes. However --as Mathmatican-- MC i answered "Athena" being the overseer for roleplay purpose. In most Saga i read (so yes, i am biased) Athena has been very helpful for humanity; Jason and the Argonauts, Odysseus, Thesseus and she propably helped Daidalos to contruct the Labyrinth. My MC assumed that Athena must be plotting against all Olympus to set Humantiy free from the Gods, therefore she set up the trail that Zeus was going against the oath to Styx.
I was also thinking of getting him something to wear but what I had in mind was something with a hat. The way he hangs out in the sun.
hi hi, I'm still taking my sweet time enjoying the new chapters. Though, I found a small bug! I think it suppose to be Storm saying the line. (Android version)
