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Tag merges and suggestions

A topic by leafo created Nov 22, 2019 Views: 8,837 Replies: 86
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Can you merge the variants of the 'Hidden Object' genre? And if it qualifies for the criteria, add it as a suggested tag as well in the dropdown list?

It helps specify what type of puzzle game it is when some of them are built entirely on this mechanic. From experience, when I play Fresh/Featured/Popular puzzle games I do encounter them by chance (larger number than the tag use frequency would suggest), but they are difficult to find by search since the generic puzzle tag is used instead which is saturated.

  • hidden-object (124)
  • hidden (37)
  • hidden-objects (35)
  • hiddenobject (10)
  • hiddenobjects (3)

Combined: 209

I think that hidden-object is the correct tag, since the genre is normally known as 'Hidden Object Game' and there's also a 'Hidden Object' tag on Steam. 

Thanks in advance!

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I agree with it but I think math is a bit wrong. I am almost sure you didn't check if some games are in several of these tags at the same time...

And I really surprised that it wasn't merged yet...

Admin(+1)

Thank you for the suggestion, “Hidden Object” is now a featured tag

As a creator who makes vtt battlemaps, there really is no category for them which makes them really hard to find. You could go a step further to identify perspective: top-down, isometric etc as well. Can I atleast get battlemap and vtt as searchable/recognized tags? and ttrpg as an alias of whatever normal tabletop-rpg tag is. I appreciate the consideration. Thanks.

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Hello, I'm Back!

I’d like to suggest the addition of the ‘Amare’ tag. We now have over 175+ games using it as a tag (To show that there is an audience for it) - https://itch.io/games/tag-amare 

I've also submitted a `Suggest description for this tag` as well but I have listed it below too. 

Description

"An inclusive term that describes relationship-focused Visual Novels and Interactive Fiction games that feature a wide range of diversity such as racial, religious, and LGBTQA+ as well as more."

Info

 For more information about the tag, you can read this blog post.  Thanks so much! :)

Not sure if this is still monitored, but it'd be good to have a "ROM" or "original hardware" tag that indicates that the game actually runs on a retro system, rather than just adopting its general aesthetic.

Moderator

There are individual tags for several retro platforms.

And they don’t indicate that the game with the “PS1” tag, for instance, actually runs on a PS1. Hence my post.

Moderator

Some of them do, but ultimately creators decide how to tag their games.

Which is why it would be nice if there was a tag they could choose to indicate that yes, their game does in fact work on original hardware.

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I am not sure but i found these two:

dungeon (257)

dungeon-crawler (596)

dungeon ∩ dungeon-crawler (51)

Numbers show count of assets

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Hello

I’d like to suggest the addition of the ‘Amare’ tag. We now have over 235+ games using it as a tag  - https://itch.io/games/tag-amare 

I've also submitted a `Suggest description for this tag` as well but I have listed it below too. 

Description

"An inclusive term that describes relationship-focused Visual Novels and Interactive Fiction games that feature a wide range of diversity such as racial, religious, and LGBTQA+ as well as more."

Thanks!

Admin (1 edit) (+4)

Thanks for the suggestion, it’s now a suggested tag https://itch.io/games/tag-amare

I would like to bring to attention three new "Suggested Tags"

"Monster-Girl"
which should merge:
"monster-girl" - 115 results
"monster-girls" - 76 results
"monstergirl" - 58 results
"monstergirls" - 25 results

I've heard a bunch of developers starting to grumble about how traffic gets divided into four streams which kind of prevents the entire genre from establishing itself on Itch.IO. It should be emphasized that this is considered very distinct from the "furry" category as "monster-girls" are considered much, much more human-like in nature/appearance. And many developers specifically want and need to emphasize that their content isn't so extreme as to be considered "furry."

"Femdom"
which should merge:
"femdom" - 233 results
"female-domination" - 31 results
"femaledomination" - 2 results

It is rather important for the former to have the latter as an official tag as it has big implications to viewers whether the former genre contains the latter content (very common but not always). In the second tag, there is a split between the long-word and its more commonly used abbreviation in pop-culture and as is commonly used as shorthand label on other store-page websites.

"Vore"
which should merge:
"vore" - 270 results
"vorarephilia" - 0 results (but it is the full technical term)

Also a tag with a lot of cross-over interest that people will want to be informed if a title contains said content because it's a very specific imaginary interest to find or avoid.

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All three of these categories are devoted interests with approximately 250+ titles in each. Unifying and elevating them to official capacity would greatly improve the experience for customers browsing and relevant developers alike. All three as prominent options would be helpful for devs to be aware that they can tag titles in multiple of these categories. If made official, I'm certain that some of these categories would actually grow quite significantly in count, adding a few hundred more results, as there are many titles that technically fall into these categories but are not advertised as such.

-Best Regards

Admin(+2)

I’ve merged these tags

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In the "Monster Girls" tag description, is it possible to clarify that they represent a distinct visual appeal of some sorts. Some folks are worried that a lot of Furry tagged games will feel compelled to tag themselves as Monster Girls games. Usually "Furry" represents a visual style more fully covered in complete scales or fur where it serves as the main attraction. Whereas "Monster Girls" represents a visual style where the more "humanlike" features are still the primary attraction.

https://itch.io/games/tag-monster-girls

In that link,
In Heat
Love at First Tail
While the definitions are a little blurry, the overwhelming majority would firmly consider these to be Furry games and not Monster Girls in style.

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It is sort of a situation where for example a bunch of "family friendly" games (just as an illustrative example) are finding several top "gory" titles mis-tagged as "family friendly" could be making the browsing experience a bit uncomfortable to a certain space trying to advertise themselves as "not gory."

Just adding a bit of text description clarifications for the tags would help the situation a lot (possibly doing a single round of manual adjustment because some titles were in obscure tags now merged into the new mega-tag). A lot of monster-girl genre games will probably be coming over, but they don't want certain spaces to be glossed over because it contains so much more "extreme content" at the top to their intended audience if that makes sense.

Just trying to drop in a friendly word of advice to make the browsing experience better for everyone so people can find the right games they intended to find with greater ease.

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Admin (2 edits) (+1)

Sorry if I’m off here but it feels like most of your suggestions are AI generated and have no understanding of actual taxonomy of content on the site. As an example, “Sprunki” and “Baldi’s Basics” are very viral games with very specific themes that are very relevant to a specific set of users. Your suggested replacement of “Dark Toony” sounds made up and entirely defeats the purpose of the original tags. I understand your desire to help but the approach you’ve taken here is very misguided.

The point of tag merges is not to eliminate tags that have a smaller number of content, but to build an organization system that enables people to find what they’re looking for, and surface related content for things like the recommender. Specificity is more valuable than generic in most cases, and many of your suggestions are removing a tag that has a specific meaning in favor of something generic solely for the sake of reducing the total number of tags available.

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that could free up one slot in the "All Tags" list for a more popular or relevant tag that's beyond just 300 results

That the list currently has near 300 items is a coincidence. There are no slots on that list. It grows. It is not the 300 most popular/relevant/arbitrarily chosen tags.

Read the initial post of this thread for how this is intended.

Admin (9 edits)

I did go through your list, and I won’t be accepting any of the suggestions. Your suggestions are essentially merging things for the sake of merging things without any understanding of what the underlying content is. I think there appears to be a misunderstanding here: You have the goal of reducing the total number of tags for some reason. There is need to do that. We want to broaden what can be communicated about a project page with more specific tags, not less. It’s not helpful to force things that are somewhat related into a different tag.

I’ll address a few of your suggestions off the top of my head real quick but I’m not going to write up explanations for everything.

COMBINE: “Gacha” (375 total) + “Gacha Club” (100 total)

“Gacha” is a type of game that implements “gachapon” mechanics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha_game

“Gacha Club” is a fan game made with a specific style of characters and gameplay inspired by Gacha games, you can view the original here: https://lunime.itch.io/gacha-club. Gacha Club has a fandom associated with it and there are many players looking specific for games and mods related to the original game, and are not looking for generic Gacha games.

Infinite Runner and Endless runner are nearly synonymous

An infinite runner is a specific kind of game where you are always running (typically to the right) and jumping over obstacles. The game Canabalt https://finji.itch.io/canabalt-classic was probably the game that popularized this game mechanic. “Endless”, on the other hand, just means the game can go forever with no clear end.

User Interface and Graphic User Interface. Also, nearly synonymous, both in gaming and in IT…

There are user interfaces that are not graphical. A GUI is a specific kind of UI.

“Wild West” and “Western” also have so much overlap

Overlap is not a reason to remove a tag. “Wild West” represents a specific time era in the United States with a “Western” aesthetic. “Western” is a more broad term for things like cowboys, horses, 10 gallon hats, etc. with no specific reference to the period.

Hope that makes sense

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https://itch.io/games/tag-unity has 100k games

https://itch.io/games/made-with-unity has 250k games

Overlap is only 50k. Which should make 300k total.

It gets more complicated for rpg maker. But my point is, that meta-infos are mixed in inconsistently with the regular tags. Someone searching Unity games will not find most of them if listening to the suggested tags. https://itch.io/tags/tools 

And even with the made-with tag, about 50k will not be found. I would dislike searching twice and I think many people would not even realize that there are two tags saying the same, one a regular tag, one a meta tag, and that there is a huge lack of overlap.

Admin (2 edits) (+1)

One of these is a tag page, the other is a “engine classification.” They are two separate taxonomy trees and can not be merged in the way that two tags can.

In the future we may change how these are displayed to make the distinction more clear.

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