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To everyone wondering what's going on, Visa and Mastercard threatened to end service with both Steam and Itch.io over adult content that is generally speaking legal.  Basically, our rights are being trampled on by payment processors.

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i lowkey forgot about this mastercard and visa telling people they cant spend their money oml  i remember being told about oversea scams when trying to purchase harem hotel and i belive the creator of that is from ireland

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I've been particularly mad about payment processors doing this shit for ages now and nobody really listened until it finally happened.


A while back, Toffer Team did a crowdfunding campaing for their Lip Lewd Idol visual novel series. They racked up 23k and PayPal froze the account and stole all their crowdfunding money.


I said even back then that this kind of behavior was an attempt to normalize censorship and now its happening. I'm just as furious about whats happening as you are, if not more so.

Visa and Mastercard are a duopoly that actively collude with eachother and I can't for the life of me understand why they havent been forcefully broken up by the government.

I'm not american, but if you are, contact your representatives. Theres a bill in the US right now being worked on specifically to make it illegal for Visa and Mastercard to decide what you do with your money.

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Wonderful message, to bad the us has the absolute wrong fuckin goverment for this

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The bills ErrorStack is referring to (actually two bills, H.R.987 and S.401) were introduced by two Republicans, the party you may notice control the government at the moment. So I would say it is potentially the right fuckin government, actually!

Payment processors overstepping their bounds is a bipartisan issue! Conservatives have been the target of it before! Making them politically neutral utilities is something we can all get behind, and you should contact your representatives in support of the "Fair Access to Banking Act" if you are a US citizen.

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there was also an earlier bill in 2023 that was introduced and never went anywhere.

You're right about the issue being bipartisan

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The issue is non-partisan. Doesn't matter about political parties. This is an attach on the people.

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These bills are intended to protect gun dealers and crypto laundering from bank oversight, but protecting free speech would be a great collateral benefit.

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Nothing will get done to favor the consumer under the Trump regime.

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The bills ErrorStack is referring to (actually two bills, H.R.987 and S.401) were introduced by two Republicans. Payment processors overstepping their bounds is a bipartisan issue! Conservatives have been the target of it before! Making them politically neutral utilities is something we can all get behind, and you should contact your representatives in support of the "Fair Access to Banking Act"

if you are a US citizen.

What that means for you personally is that your unproductive doomerism isn't even based on facts. Next time you make a post, ask yourself if it's indistinguishable from what a propagandist would say if they were trying to demoralize people into doing nothing. And if it is, don't say it.

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while i understand the sentiment, this was happening before him as well. DLsite and OnlyFans both got hit with this sort of thing in 2021. the issues systemic in that credit card companies and payment processors shouldn't be able to tell grown adults what they can and can't do with their money.

This current bout started in Australia, and it’s been going on in general since payment processors lost the Mindgeek lawsuit.

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That's simple. The government has always  wanted to ban shit they don't control and doing so through the government is hard because of free speech laws. Furthermore, seeing how  the government is likely involved with human trafficking and sex slavery, anything that has sex in it is likely an important target for them.

This might seem farfetched but in my experience sexual predators engage in projection to hide their guilt and seeing how the "feminist group" is completely fine with "Cuties" then I have my suspicions that they are just a manufactured excuse for credit card companies to ban shit.

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Indeed; the feminist group follows many reactionary conservatives on their Twitter account, such as Liz Wheeler, Charlie Kirk and Elon Musk's political party, all people that have been incredibly misogynistic by the past. The only feminists they follow are people like JK Rowling, who are only feminists by a very charitable and liberal definition of the term. They are a feminist group in name only. They are reactionary conservative censorship advocates, presumably Christian.

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Got it, so everyone just needs to quit using their service and go to a different card provider. It'd be nice if that happened, but i doubt it ever will.

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yeah its not that simple might be using cashapp or similar for this stuff now riddiculous aboslutley ludicrous

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I'm normally not a crypto shill, but it might be worth investing into a small amount of relatively stable crypto specifically to have some way to do transactions when Visa and Mastercard are doing this shit.

Theres not a hugr amount of card providers out there. Most of them use Visa or Mastercard infrastructure.



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I wish it was that easy, but look at your bank card, it's almost always either visa or MasterCard, and your bank decides that, not you. 

Censorship is getting out of control.

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There is an option, but it is a pretty big step backwards, so I doubt people would go with it. Rather than using credit cards for everyday shopping, we can withdraw money directly in bank to pay in cash, and for online payments, devs could have bank account number disclosed, so we can make a direct bank transfers instead. Basicly cutting off the use of payment processors altogether, so they either backpedal on bans or go bankrupt and new, more lenient ones get created.

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Sue the fuck out of Visa and Mastercard, then. Do not remove games.

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I'm not sure on that yet or if it's scrambling as that UK law is coming up on kicking in

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Visa and Mastercard's huge monopoly frustrates me so much. They just have the ability to screw over anybody they don't like, how is that fair? It's not just with gaming either, it's also been with websites like OnlyFans and Tumblr. This is a repeated thing spanning across more than a decade with zero major repercussion. God.

dang i just came here because i remembered there was a game i used to play and i wanted to find it again, no wonder i couldn't find it!

I own more games than I care to admit. What's the game called. I can check my library for the link.


Most NSFW games still exist on Itch. They just dont appear in searches.

I don't remember the name but I remember it was 3d, you played as a ghost in some sort of fantasy setting around alchemy or something, and there's students in a library that you interact with, you can customize their bodies and what they're wearing and whatnot

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Oh, thats Poke Abby.

https://oxopotion.itch.io/poke-abby

They blocked the page altogether. What a clown show

uhh if you look at that page, it said the creator/author themselves blocked downloads.

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Ah, damn. I can still download but its because I already own it. Purchases are disabled I guess.


Edit: apparently the dev erased their internet presence a while back. The game was probably pulled from sale before the visa/mastercard stuff if I had to guess.

Darn.

Yes! thanks

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https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-what-we-can-watch-read-or-play


 
Pass it around and don't forget to tell your representative

Yeah I thought this was the case. Now is a good time to hunt down that petition.