If you have already bought items from the store by putting them in the shopping basket and closing it, there is a way to get back the one and two hand grips, but not the polearms as far as I know. To do this, pick up the box, go to the incinerator, and SLOWLY move the box towards the opening until the box is deleted. Then, unbound from the box, the grips will fall on the floor. You might lose one, but that is better than losing all of them. As far as I know, the polearms will stay however they were when the box was deleted. Hope this helps anyone who has been hit by ASBL (Annoying Shopping Basket Lidding).
Oh my. You just gave me an idea, and I've already gone ahead and tested it.
You can use another crate to force unlock the items.
Dip the shopping basket in via corner and then click at the box below a couple time to seal and unseal or unseal and seal.
Managed to buy two 2h grips, verified locked to crate, able to carry all 3 with just the 2h grip being held, and then managed to get both unlocked by fiddling with another crate
As I read your post it made me think about Items locked via ESC/Menu - and how you can lock them in air by holding them, ESC/Menu, releasing while in menu, returning to gameplay, and then attempting to hold them again, immediately. (Displayed picture of locked items in mid-air in third post ) - You can break their locks by wrapping another crate around them and then closing it, binding their physics to that crate
WELL.
More to the point. There's a few things you can do with shopping basket locked items, I've managed to successfully buy nearly the entire store (minus most pole grips) and unlock them via another crate.
Primarily the easiest thing to do, is to lock "crate" of locked physics, to the other crate.... Note: I said the "crate" of locked physics... As in the non-existent shopping basket that you can't unlock.
when you close the player-crate around the Crate that is spawned from leaving with the shopping basket, it UNLOCKS the crate from the "location" at which the shopping basket was, leaving the Shopping basket, and all the locked items, detached from the crate-SB (Crate-SB will now be shoppin basket that's left and turned into crate)
The Crate-SB then can be ROTATED off of the location, Nearly entirely free, if not entirely free, of all the locked items - leaving them locked mid air above the other crate - They're locked to a "crate" (the shopping basket) and that is locked inside your other Player-Crate
After you've Removed Crate-SB from the equation - successfully unlocking other "floating" items is a TON easier since you don't have to work around the physics of the crate - Simply rotate grips so they're a little straighter, and drop another Player-Crate ontop of them, Lock, bam, they're all free now. Unlock and work with your new grips.
Alternatively you can try and work around the crate-SB - Like I did for the first two grips. - Which is easier if its a smaller purchase without a lot of stacked item items,
Additionally - Maybe alternatively - You can actually still highlight and ROTATE all the items, despite them still being Physics-lost/disabled. - This won't free them physically, however, you might be able to make it easier to hook another box onto them, and free their physics that way.
All without bringing your hard-earned cash anywhere near that trigger happy incinerator
Which. wasn't a bad idea, actually, Since it was the crate despawning that freed the items in other ... example?
Now how to word this a bit.. less... words..y. so it can serve as a more condensed, to the point, workaround/fix in the actual second post...
This post will now serve as additional referencing information for Post 2 and images of potentially trivial bug or other "possibilities"
What I called the wordy weapons
1h axe - "Hatchet" ; 2h axe - "Battle Axe" or Battle Ax ; Pole-Greathammer - Maul ; 1h hammer - Mallet ; 1h sword - Sword, Longsword ; Pole-hammer - Warhammer, Bec de Corbin, Long Warhammer (meh), etc ; Pole greatsword - Spetum/Partisan ; Polesword - Glaive/other ; polearm(dagger) - "Spear"
You must've thought I was satisfied with my freeze-frame looking Crate-spilled item-lock HAH.
No.
If you make it incorrectly. does the game forget to register it as Steel? since the Blacksmith can wield any hatchet, hammer or pick (not battleax)?
Or is Axe mislabeled for Steel period?
Had to like my own post for the first time just because It worked.
I'm going to sell them a Greatsword....
José Jalapeño: "On a STEEK"
holy crap you havebeen active - man ... I lost track of what you found out yourself, but I hope dasius is on the things that are buggy and actually, I think most of the things you said are known bugs :)
About "people requesting copper" - try making a tin one hand hammer for yourself and equip it, then people will start asking for tin :)
yess... I noticed that on the front page/game page.. some of the bugs I'd mentioned were there.. I wasn't sure if I should delete them, keep them.. or if I'd been the one who mentioned it, and Dasius simply updated the gamepage to announce it was a thing, I dunno which of which for some of them, because I only occassionally check the game page, and didn't really notice the text/bug list when I downloaded the new version and quickly started playing it
Unfortunately. I also often forget to check back on it to see if its changed....
"people requesting copper" I had a tin 1h hammer at the time of that post, btw.
I have an iron 1h hammer right now
Yes. I eventually got them to start asking for Tin, and for Iron, but the point is, they /still/ ask for copper, It will eventually be rather out of control, and thats without adding additional metals, alloys, shields, flails, grips, and potentially armor, to the mix. - Where some of those things, have multiple tiers of crafting before you can present the product to the customer.
You're almost "punished" for having items pre-request - Because you've spent money on those, and can't buy stuff for the request, later
and Even if you could, getting everything all in order properly without fumbling can still cut it extremely close. - sure. /copper/ might not be necessary of worrying over.
But when you're at Titanium, And say 90% of your customers don't ask for titanium, and you've got no money, and with the Page on your board talking about "tax" maybe being considered or already a thing - You will be worrying over each under-tier request that you can't fulfill.
Because having "everything" taken for not meeting a deadline - would suck
and not meeting the deadline cause you spent money on getting titanium ingots ready to be ordered, and then only ever having copper and iron and say,.... mithril requests for a week in game. after that, would suck even more.
Would suck almost as much as NOT getting the titanium ready - and only getting requests that you fail to fulfill because you didn't get any of them ready in advance, and the customers keep asking for something else or of a different metal... And then after failing allllll those other requests, the 3 or4 ada and mith, the 10 copper iron copper steel in a row, etc After all that, someone finally asks for titanium.... but Guesssss what... You can't order enough ingots to fulfill it because you spent money trying to fulfill the other orders... Causing you to still not meet the deadline (and to have a messy place full odd odd here and there types and tiers.
Edit because edits don't cause post bump or notification, afaik - don't really need to spam for just this edit
As for "Active"
I only found out about this game within like.. a week ago, tops. I honestly should've known about it months ago, Jacksepticeye actually /did/ make a let's play video on it, and I would've been over here 5months or so ago....
If youtube wasn't absolutely taint at notifications and sub boxes.... I have like.. what.. 6 places where I should see new video posts, and on every single one of them, I can scroll back.. only. Half of them, I can scroll back, and see I was never notified for this video, not email, not bell, nor the app notifications
At anyrate. I often over-play things to death/redundancy, including contribution to help, bugs, suggestions, etc give it a few months and I'll probably never make a post again, even if I still occassionally play the game :l\
Much like I've done with SN, EGS, and SB, oh and SDV.
I'm only super active when I'm super into playing.
edit 2 actually just occurred to me I have like... 10 different ways youtube should be able to tell me and didn't. I have an old phone still on my wifi that I keep for updates/video use in bath/shower/restroom - and it gets its backlog cleared a lot less often than my actual phone.
mmm. Good call on the Hammer though, That does seem to be the actual trigger for tier-up requests
I made an Adelite hammer last night before sleeping and quiting to try the Nature-> Naturd change
First request the morning after reloading and verifying the wood results, got a request (that I couldn't fill cause I used my adelite for the hammer) for an adelite greathammer.
I agree with you that the requests for "lower than your hammer" tier are bad BECAUSE they do not accept "better" material --- it really requires you to have all heads of all materials at day 15 or you will not make it and, as you said, you will lose progress traction because you have to invest way more money into things that might never be requested again.
However, being prepared yields up to 20 customers a day so ... if you keep up with it, I'd say, you still are able to advance the fastest and maybe even faster than fast people that prepare on the fly.
Yeah I found this game through jack :) and since then I love it xD
Mean something like this atrocity? 
If I have to keep stock of copper after this point, I'm going to be running out of room to be any sort of prepared. and as I said with the greatsword/original bug debacle - I can't have them pre-assembled and near each other/the NPC, cause they might lock onto one and refuse while I'm left wondering which that one is, then either fumble, or destroy my place in the process to sell
My Other post contains a vision of "pre-assembled" that I had before understanding the sale bug, and I don't believe I've had it since the iron 1h sword that 'enlightened' me.
and I can't (don't want to) really use the other two shelves, not that they'd be of a lot of help in this endeavor since they're in the forging zone and through a burdening door (assembled on the backboard is 1h and 2h grips with guards ready)
Had 2 copper requests before this post was finished, so the copper shelf is already empty
Edit: I wasn't going to edit but GOD
6 copper requests in a row - practically everything copper in that picture and a pickaxe, is gone.
To be honest the fact that they still request copper and then only take copper is a game breaker for me ^^ it is stressful enough to get your stuff done, but then doing the management for all materials you have? I will wait for a fix xD
Which is where I put that "request" part in at.
See now if they'd "walk in" and accept vague generals (Wants Tin (OR) Greatsword)
Then you'd be able to go "well crap I just so happen to have this BEAUTIFUL LEGENDARY ULTRA SUPER RARE GOD SWORD..... Mithril Greatsword, that I really would like to sell, How's about you take this instead, bub?" SOLD :D (I don't really care that it isn't logical for a Novice Stone Mason to have 400million gold vs what, 4000?)
Of course if you don't have a greatsword or resources, you could still make a sale by shoving a Tin 1h sword in his hand and selling him on its super duper awesome OP game breaking Please Nerf Stats - Its like +100Quality m80, Buy it, you know you wannnaaaa.
OR.. If that seems "unfair" because of the aforementioned "novice" and "gold allowance" - You could introduce a say... 5-10% discount on "Greatsword" that doesn't match "Tin" - Which then your Charisma and Parts choice/material factor heavily into, and really, your charisma.
It'd be a fair-ish balance for being able to go "Here's a titanium greatsword sonny, go play in the woods, be back by suppa and don't poke your eye out!"
and then they'd
"Request" within "x hours" (must be hours or more) a "Special" (can give "Bonus" % value for increased time - maybe say 1% bonus for every hour they "request" for, so if they give you an entire day, you'll get "near" 24% bonus (I'd really say closer to say, half that, if its a day or more, full if its less than 5 - 10 hours))
This way, They can say something like "I'm Looking for a +xx quality Iron GreatHammer - It needs at least xx damage and yy control, I don't care a lot about "protection", Can you make this for me within the next 5 hours?"
That gives you Enough time to
This kinda thing, would make Requests and Walk ins different, as well as "not absolute nightmare fuel that's driving me to want to hurl these weapons at the npcs and annoy me." and more like "Seems plausible and not as aggravating"
Oooooooooooooooooooo........THATS where the "Same ones" are..... See All I ever did was (maybe) glance at the Game download/store page on Itch.io, then go to the community (here) and see newer posts, if they had similar things or not, and most of the time, I felt like "not" (I didn't see the bug list on the game page at first until abbbouutt the time you made your first reply on this post.
Didn't know Trello was relevant for Bug posting.... Guess I'll have to start glancing through more things before making new bug posts.
Haha! Ya no worries. Come by the Trello boards if you want and take a look to see if we missed anything
I do not currently have my own game's screenshot for it, However, Someone else does, Lazy, On the Wikia!
(Just use the "Image?" linking directly to wikia image as an image just doesn't seem to work well at all)
As for "Stuck leaving" I'm not entirely sure "how" it managed to occur
If you look up at this picture - Where the player is standing? That's about where the NPC was stuck... Just "standing" there... Not entirely sure how or why.
It was the same customer in my experience, (by looks at least) as the one I'd given up on and had not only knocked an item at him, but had a sword sticking through him as I closed the shop - And I myself, was extremely close to them, potentially in their way as well
and then I quickly turned after closing the shop (not closing the door) and ran off to do my own stuff, some time later I came back and saw him standing out there, spooked me, cause of his proximity to store... He was gone after reload. (I slept, saved, and quit, and reloaded just to ensure he didn't get in the way of other customers.
This... might be contri-wait a minute wtfh?
Steel axe? But it was an Adelite Axe >_< what!? ugh. Make up your mind game.
Pretty sure there's like 3 flipping images where you were an Adelite labeled axe instead of Steel..
*sigh* Okay. back to the point. Mad Strafe disease might be the reason NPCs get stuck.
When I say he kept strafing left but slight right - I mean, he was basically a newton's cradle, swinging back and forth on the left side of the road, while ending up further left each time, until at some point, seemingly based off the other NPC's position - He stopped going left, until after he landed.
When he landed, he strafed right over to the dirt-edge on the left side, while still coming at the shop
Oh yes. I know they're the same, but look at the two pictures that are practically hugging each other.
One says Adelite Axe
the other says Steel Axe
Up in 3rd post where all my "locked" item pictures are at - that's all Adelite axe too. - but then /suddenly/ it was Steel? - I mean yes. Like I said, I know they're equivalent, but If its steel, its steel, The item should know, its steel, and never be adelite, or vice versa - even if Adelite ore is steel - Names shouldn't just randomly change. ( I say random, but I did get off to play another game, and then reloaded - which likely is the "random" point, but anyway, still shouldn't just up and change.)
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And while NPC flying may or may not have been known.
It's what caused their strafing/flying that is likely what's the actual culprit of a stuck npc, since I don't think anyone has watched them get stuck, only found them standing there, stuck.
I nearly made one of the npcs Strafe into my sign while experimenting with Pathing - After he narrowly evaded the sign, he was looking like a crazed mad strafer, too, albeit for a much smaller area and much shorter time.
BUT... as I was saying, it seems it could maybe just be "bad luck" because the Non-Customer NPCs spawn rather.. indiscriminately and head to another gate rather indiscriminately as well.
I /assume/ they try to be at different spawn times, so their paths don't intersect, but if they do spawn together and do cross paths, at any point on the customer's way to the shop - The Customer's pathing goes nuts and that causes all three things, strafe, flight, and stuck, occassionally, when all the stars align and that "strafe/flight" just happens to land them in a place they can't recover.
They're definitely not always in the same position - I actually saw another NPC in flight before you got back to me on here - he was pretty much about mid-road, closer to the gate - his aerial height was only about up to where the npc in the pic I took was, and was already almost to the ground before I could realize to try and SS
what xD how did you make it say "adelite" it only ever says "steel" for me :D
Hmm yeah it might be random on load or always X on load and always Y on assigning it?
About the pathing, yeah this is so tough so debug because the NPCs are literally random and the customer NPC is also very hard to predict, and impossible to time together with the NPCs as both spawnings are out of your control...
I guess dasius has to figure this out by debug spawning ^^
Yea its just going to have to fall to Dasius for it - Previously mentioned box/log by door doesn't actually work, was just false logic, I just got lucky and hadn't had it happen to me since putting it there
Watched this one spawn in center of road, He spawned like.. maybe.. 5 seconds? before another NPC spawned, I thought "Nah he'll be fine, he's faster and spawned first."
Strafed like a mad man from center
to my right, center, left, center, left again and then "plop", walked right into place at the door
Looks like its about time for me to put old yeller here down though, So If'n you'll excuse me.
Well... I finally found a new bug.... except not really.
I Think... I managed to do this - on a fresh restart - by Starting the game (No existing save)- switching to sandbox (No save), doing stuff (no save), and then switching back (constituted as a reload/New game, while engine was running, because no save)
I didn't want to "waste time" getting my graphics reset - since I deleted save game and settings again.
I went to go check on copper ore veins (with my magic carpet, as you do. (Blueprint scroll))
Found one at start of cave, cool cool - looked around, a coal, an iron, a crystal a copper a cryst... WAIT WHAT?
Honestly, I'll mostly just chalk this up to related for the previous fear entry, edit style - I assume its more so related to that.
My guess... Is.. for some reason... If you have no save, and start fresh - fear will either not spawn, or spawn.. wrong? - or some graphic setting is making it invisible.. i dunno. (this is fairly low settings)
and if you have a save, but hit "new game" (or do the equivalent of such, via Sandbox/engine running/ no save to reload) - The crystal, can maybe, spawn?....
I dunno.
edit - ok so either there's a third one in this pic, or, a third one spawned when I came back to get the other two and ore with a pick and crate (clearly, pic shows I didn't have a pick before hand, had to make sure it was worth it.)
At any rate - I now have 3 fear crystals - slept, didn't find one in the morning - so just 3.
