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A topic by Azalyne Studios (Aly) created Jun 22, 2024 Views: 22,386 Replies: 358
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Hi all, does anyone know how to use the clean slate option? I have downloaded the clean slate option and played the direct app file from the folder but it still does not show getting the achievements again. I noted that it deleted the first few pages of saves though. I have also played from the latest 1.09 build but the achievements are still not getting re-triggered. 

I finally saw the clean slate version but I realised that I did not choose it because I wanted to keep the stat bonuses from the best endings. Is there a way to remove saves and achievements but keep the bonuses?

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Unfortunately, nope. They are all the same persistent data.

Understand, still, thank you for giving us this option <3

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My Jiyel MC is (probably) not going to die from poison, because she has taken all the steps to stop it , but now she has no means to find out who's behind the poisoning. What is required for that?

She consulted with Cordelia about the poison, but then she got stuck :(

I think it’s a quick wit stat check? Try raising your intelligence or cunning a bit more and then try it again.

I managed to raise a bit of both and pass the check! Thanks :D

For me, I consulted with Zarad. it worked for me:)

(potential minor spoilers ahead about the final weeks/ negotiations)

I've heard talk of blackmailing different people, but how can that be done? I've found out a few secrets about people (e.g. Blain's), but I never seem to get the option to blackmail someone? When should that option present itself? I was thinking maybe you'd have a conversation with them during week 7 where you get that option, but this hasn't been the case - what am I missing?

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I’ve gotten blackmail options three times so far - one for Jaslen’s secret, one for Avalie’s, and one for Zarad’s (for Jaslen, I only needed to see one scene - for Zarad, I needed his confession to get the option.) For both options, it happened at the end of the day’s negotiations, where I was asked if I wanted to blackmail the character whose secret I knew. For Avalie, I think I only got the option when she wasn’t my ally.

Noted - I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

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If you find out the full truth about the horse incident, you have an option to blackmail with that info Gisette during her week 7 convo.

I'm missing something about allying with Avalie and I can't figure out what it is. I've seen both weaver scenes listed on the wiki, found an additional one in the forbidden wing in week six (that implied I was missing something but ??? what?), seen several secret scenes involving Avalie (that aren't listed in the weaver chain), and seen the garden scene with Cato and Falon. I've got high friendship, respect, and rivalry with her; I've used (to my knowledge) all the right dialogue options. Are there more weaver scenes? I have replayed this game so many times at this point just to ally with Avalie and I still haven't done it. Pls help lol

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The last Weaver scene has a pretty difficult interpersonal insight check (270 IIRC) that you need to pass in order to unlock the Weaver secret and ally with Avalie. You’ll also need high persuasion to convince her, but I don’t think it’s higher than 500 (which you’ll need anyways to convince the Jiyel ambassador for the legendary ending).

Thank you! My interpersonal insight was ten points too low. That hurts lol but at least now I know what the issue is.

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It's actually 275, and even MCs that specialize in people/politics knowledge would need to grind a bit to get there! 

Considering how busy you can get trying to get the secrets to the legendary endings, I definitely recommend getting the practice in earlier than week 6. I ended up 5 points short of it myself, and had to load up a save two weeks earlier because I didn't have enough free time slots, RIP.

How do we know if we'll get Avalie's week 6 date? I've done everything required but Jasper didn't mention her invitation like with Ana. Will she just pop up after you see the Forbidden Wing and Garden scenes?

During her week 2 date, did you get her extended dialogue ended with "It would be a pity if you weren't at your best tomorrow"? Because it means you're heading in the right direction :D If you did, but still didn't get the other date, then... hmm, inviting her to the boat race and hosted events might help.

Thanks so much! I also messed up by skipping Emmet's week 1 date and didn't have enough knowledge for the tea clue, so my trial was not perfect *face palm* Wish me luck!

So I finally got Avalie's date but did't get the dialogue option to make her an ally?? I only got to these options: I will be satisfied, Truthfully neither of us, I'm worried Avalie

I think the "I'm worried" is the dialogue line that leads to convincing her to be an ally, so you're on the right track!

Ok thanks! Now I wish I saved the game before that moment!

Also quick question, will making Avalie an ally allow Jiyel and Arland to give up their standing armies? I got all the legendary endings EXCEPT Jiyel and Arland sdjjsjgdjgg

Update: Found a really great guide for all the legendary endings and WOW I'm so happy :D

I can't seem to get Avalie friendship ending even though I got her as an ally, even played as a Jiyel and yet nothing. What am I doing wrong?

Did you get the legendary ending for Jiyel?

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I try. I got Lyon to involve, build  a library and encourage chefs and even use the last influences to encourage peace. And when arguing with Kato, i got "a very good summary of my ideas on the subject" so I should have all that is required.

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You have to select the correct choice with the Arlish ambassador in the welcome feast. I was also having the same issue with getting Avalie as my ally as I selected the option  "The final 2 weeks are more important than the previous 5". During the nego, you will have 2 choices to select during the ambassador showdown - if you only got to support and give (un)due credit to Cato during the week 7 nego, you will not get the legendary ending. 

OMG!!!! Thank you so much. That was the problem. Got it!!!

I'm trying the get the Hise MC's mother, the Blackthorn, released at the end of week 7 while still managing at least a perfunctory peace between as many countries as I can. 


I used a chunk of influence to try and push for my own ends at the end of the summit, do I need a higher persuasion so I can gather more influence? Anyone know how much?

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I’ve done a run where I didn’t push for my own ends at all during the summit, but still got her released (I think by getting the legendary ending for Hise and Corval and having high friendship with Zarad, but I’m not sure if those were the driving stats).

That's worth a shot, thank you!

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Granted I was romancing Zarad when I freed her,  but I managed to do so without chosing any of the "work towards my interest choices" or spending influence on Hise/Corval.

Feels like nation approval + making the right convo choices with the delegates during week six is king for getting what you want at the negotiations - if you have the near max approval levels that lets you volunteer three choices at each talk you should be able to get her free and sue for some sort of peace with everyone without even spending any influence .

I am never sure what the correct answer is when first talking to the Arland and Jyjel ambassadors at the welcoming feast, can someone give me a tip?

Can't rmb the specific answers, but there is a guide for the week 6 walkthrough, and there is a guide for the legendary endings - if you want to get the legendary endings, better to see the specific guide for the legendary endings. The week 6 walkthrough will help with only getting specific stats.

Okay this is a probably obvious but here goes: is the achievement for getting all the legendary outcomes  the Katyia's Legacy achievement?  Or is there actually a seperate achievement called Katyia's Legacy?

I feel like I’m seeing different answers to this so I was hoping someone could confirm this for sure. Is completing the Rebel path the only way to keep Clarmont from breaking up with you? I had been prioritizing the Historian chain but if that’s the only way to stay with Clarmont I’ll have to go back to the drawing board with crafting my MCs…

Getting all the rebel secrets (and I think reaching a certain rebel approval threshold) is the only way to stay on his route, yes!

I figured, thanks for confirming for me! I had planned all my MCs for each background in a way that they could successfully get with all the approved romances, befriend Penelope, Cordelia, and Avalie (though for Avalie I’ll be buddies with her but can’t ally with her since my builds can’t afford for me to spend free time to complete the Weaver scenes 😂), uncover the Historians, and successfully get through the week challenges. I’ll have to see if I’m somehow able to do both Historians and Rebels with my current builds for each background. I got the stats for both, the problem is if the loss of the free time slots will make things harder for me in the challenges if my stats aren’t enough….If not, like I said before, back to the drawing board for me!

Does rejecting a certain Wellin Duke WITHOUT the secret Jaslen scene have any negative consequences? I just wanna lead him on for his week 3 gift bonus ;P

Have never seen any negative consequences! You don't even have to reject him, leading him on the whole time and then just not choosing his route just makes him another neutral/friend, like Ria and Jasper.

Thanks! I already figured that out. Too bad my Jiyel lady won't get his gift tho because she has to host a free history lecture to save money XD

Gosh, yeah, the musicale problem xD

My defaults are usually Musical, Lecture for Jiyel, and Midnight Picnic. But I think I'm gonna try hosting other events just for funsies haha

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How to get Gisette and Jarrod 3P ending? I'm immoral and I got all the legendary endings but still he broke up with me.  He is resentful of me for making him lose power. So is it impossible to get that ending  in Katiya's legacy ending?

As far as I know you can only get the 3P ending by romancing Gisette and supporting the Revaire Royals (so not on the Katiya's legacy path)

You also need to be immoral, else Gisette will say you're not cut out for marrying her brother xD

hiii does anyone know how to get lyon to get involved in the peace talks discussion? I'm trying to unlock the legendary ending but even w/ getting avalie's ally + 500 persuasion stat + picking the right options for the ambassadors I can't seem to get the option to show up.  He's legit the last thing stopping me from getting all legendary. ; w ; 

I think it depends on what you say during the first library date, when you talk about history and making a difference. Picking the third option ("I think it is a rather specious argument") always works for me ^^

Has anyone gotten Jasper's epilogue? I can only seem to unlock his ending and nothing else. Not sure if this has anything to do with him still keeping secrets from me even with historian chain resolved :(

Think you need to get every single legendary outcome for the nation negotiations to get his epilogue.

Oh goodness, okay, thanks!

No problem - didn't get a chance to edit my post by Aly confirmed this was the case in one of the other threads (think it was the game spoilers one?) Anyway just follow the Katiya's legacy guide and you should be golden.

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<POTENTIAL SPOILERS?>

I just completed my first playthrough to completion. It said I saw Hamin at the end, smuggling someone aboard his ship as we left in a chest. They seemed mischievous. I then unlocked a character. Hamin didn't explain to me, which the narrative pointed out, but I am wondering how to know. Is it an origin I might be able to use, or a delegate/person I can see on vail isle now?

Pretty sure it's Leala, who will be one of the unlockable romances released with the final version of the game!

Oh, nice! Thank you so much! :D

I'm lteraryyyy cryinnggggggggggggggggg, I've spent 4 days (not joking) spending HOURS on this game, to get Avalie's route, idk if it's a glitch but my latest run I got Lyons friendship and the grand game quest line until week 6. When I clicked the forbidden wing IT SAID NOTHING LIKE WHATTTTTTTT. 

Likeeeee.... I'm dumb enough to believe the grand game quest line. BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW UP. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

IF anyone can give me stats to achieve Avalie's route/the grand game plzzz tell me. 

REWARD

+999999 my never-ending gratefulness

Did you get the scene where MC finds something in the Forbidden Wing? If not, you’re either missing part of the Weaver chain or you don’t have high enough secret stat. If your MC does find something in the forbidden wing but she doesn’t think much of it, you need more interpersonal insight.

You also need to get the garden scene in Week 6 before Avalie’s date to get the option to ask her about the Weavers.

wait so is the weavers chain basically Woodly and Avalie talking week 1, Woodly and Jaslen flirting week 3. That's it. Because I did that, Brought peace to Jijyle and Arland, and discovered the grand game quest.... But stillllllll Avalie's ending is locked.

if you want her epilogue you have to achieve the legendary ending for jiyel as well as doing all the other things you mentioned

yeah I found out that at the end I needed to get her to become my ally, and now I got her's

I'm finding myself stuck here as well, mostly with getting the legendary ending for Jiyel (I blame the delegate)

there's a week 6 guide in the help and guides thread

I just got dumped by Clarmont and I don't know what I did wrong!

I have a few of the guides and swear I did everything right; are there other stats that I'm not considering like ambition or things maybe I'm lacking like leadership? I thought I was on the right track, please help!

Hi! I romanced Clarmont in my last run (took a couple runs). If I remember correctly, what I had to do was complete the Rebel secret/route, be an ethically moral MC, peace in Revaire AND use the PiratePad Week 5 Guide dialogue under the Angst Guide (Guide to not getting dumped). I believe you cannot be a Revaire widow. Note: I am not sure what the exact requirements are but this is what I'd done.

Amongst other things... Those were what I really had to focus on. Hope this helps!

The main thing with Clarmont is you gotta complete the Rebel secret chain and have more than 50% Rebel approval. And then in the conversation where he’s trying to dump you make sure to pick the right answers otherwise even if you got the scenes and approval you’ll still get dumped. Other than that, as far as I know, you should be good to stay with Clarmont!

I figured it out... Embarrassingly enough, I needed higher romance so I took him on a date and was successful!

does anyone know how to get Jasper's true end

never mind got it

I never noticed before, as I usually either fail to invite Woodly or have high Eloquence, but I just got +5 Eloquence from managing to invite Woodly to the Musicale! This isn't in any of the guides I've seen!
I had 35, which meant I failed the Eloquence test just earlier. The line sounded like perhaps you only get that if your stat was somewhat low. I wonder if the other chaperones have similar effects...

https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Musicale?so=search

the Fanon wiki has it, and personally I found it really really useful. 

Yeah, and then afterwards I noticed that it was indeed noted in at least one version of The Big Spreadsheet Guide, just so discreetly I'd never noticed it 😅 Looks like Jaslen also brings Politics bonuses, and she and Yvette also bring bonus approval for their respective allegiances!

[eyes Falon] looks like not only does the general only deign come to 1 single event, but he just gives a Jiyel boost and that's it. wow

Hi, I read on the Wikia that having 50 Poise can also pass Jarrod's date, is that true? Asking for my Shelteres Princess mc 

I personally have never passed with 50 poise - it's always been 50 courage or 75 manipulation

Ah, ok thanks! That part should be edited then, to avoid future confusionXD

Thank you to Aly and all contributors to this thread. With y'alls help, I finished the game with 4/7 character backgrounds, 4 different love interest, the heartwarming trio friendship scene (Avalie queen!!) AND finally a legendary run ;) (all 7+ hours per run) With that, I am still excited to continue playing. 

Are the 'secret' unlockable backgrounds available to play in the EA? If so, what do I need to do. They show up in the More than You Appear screen but I can't play them when I click. Also,  I know there's an NG+ but from some of you, it sounds like this is already available with the EA. Is this true?

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NG+ bonuses are available (listed in the most recent guide posted in the guides thread), NG+ origins and romances are still being written :)

AHHH Thank you! That makes a lot sense. Getting a taste of the NG+ with the starting stat bonuses are added positive reinforcements to keep playing lol I'm obsessed.

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I was trying to get a good ending while romancing Clarmont as the Countess

Can you do it without bringing peace to Revaire?

He would dump me if I tried to participate in rebel activities. I had to choose support for him to continue
I had very low manipulation and cunning the entire time. Charisma wasn't great either.
I tried getting in with Sayra. I got her and Ria's gift but not Mrs. White's. Never found out Sayra's secret.
I did solve the murders though.

to romance clarmont successfully you need to either bring peace to revaire or side with the rebels

you should be able to choose either option at the end of week five as long as you pick all the right answers during your conversation (see guide)

if you don't have high enough persuasion to choose katiya's legacy as your ambition during the self-introductions then you can gain rebel approval by telling estelle that imogen is innocent at dinner

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Oh! Do I need to have Katyia's legacy as a public ambition in order to side with the rebels?
I had it as a private ambition but had a different public one.
I'm trying to figure out what stat I'm missing when I was able to support the rebels but didn't have enough of something to participate. I thought my persuasion might have been too low? Could that be the only thing stopping me?

 I made it to the end with his proposal but Clarmont died in the war.

you have to hit both a certain threshold of rebel approval (like half the bar?) and a certain level of sayra friendship for sayra to reveal her secret, which you definitely need in order to arrange peace and most likely need to side with the rebels. having katiya's legacy as your public ambition is the biggest, easiest early-game boost to rebel approval - i think you might need it to get the rebel gift in week 3

I don't think I've ever gotten the rebel gift in any playthrough, even in the first 3 week demo. Maybe once  when the demo was new, but not in the last couple years. How do I increase the rebel approval that much that early?

and according to the most recent guide posted in guides, you need a minimum of 250 persuasion to have katiya's legacy as a public ambition which I didn't have. Having almost no manipulation and low charisma are probably hurting me early on, since they're part of persuasion.

I'm attempting another go with my Countess build. without the rebel gift and without the public katiya ambition.
I already ended up with perfect acquittal, which I didn't get the first time with the Countess.

Do you treat Sayra, Ria and the staff nicely? E.g. be friendly with them when you introduce yourself (part of character creation), invite them to eat breakfast with you, invite them to events, comfort Ria on the day of the horse riding accident? Did you also sweep in to assist Sayra against the drunk delegate? 


Can't think of anything else which could affect the rebel faction - the actions above would help with Sayra's approval/friendship which is also linked to the rebel faction. I have always received the gift from Mrs. White/Ria +Sayra

it might also depend on things like your success at the self-introductions (i think passing perfectly gives you a bigger boost than just passing?) and having enough insight (at least 60) to choose the best option assisting sayra ("I don't doubt that Sayra can handle herself, but...")

there's a guide that covers the entirety of the game in the help and guides thread now, btw!

I pretty much always get the best sayra choice. My insight is always high because I've memorized all the right answers for gaining insight on day 1.

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I did every single one of those things you mentioned, and didn't receive the rebel gift. Any time I could comfort Ria instead of receive a stat boost, I did. I received the Ria/Sayra gift.  And I got Ria's confession.

Anything that boosted Ria or Sayra I did. I invited Ria to both events and I invited Sayra to the girls night. I didn't have the stats to succeed in the onvu tournament.

There's one rebel approval thing I missed the first go through which was responding to Lady Estelle about Imogen being innocent. I'll find out at the end of week 4 if it will let me choose to participate in the rebellion. I'm using a guide to boost my persuasion everywhere I can. I'm going to assume if I still can't continue the romance by picking that answer that I need to redo it...AGAIN.

Do I need Sayra's secret for a successful romance with Clarmont, so he survives to the end without peace?

and omg, i just remembered something and it will blow my mind if this is the ONLY reason I'm not getting the rebel gift because the guides don't say that this choice affects any approval. Because I thought it only affected my personality. But on day 1 when talking to Gisette, because i have no manipulation, I choose to say I support her in order to improve my relationship with her and nothing else. Might I have to either avoid talking to her or support the people?

EDIT: I still couldn't choose the "participate in rebellion" 
According to one guide all I need to get it are the right answers and ethical. Do I need to be max ethical? I'm almost max but not quite.
I'm not even sure what choices I made that prevent full ethical...unless it's the option I mentioned above on day 1?

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I think you messed up with Gisette, for the peace in Revaire ending I would avoid her unless you're playing with at least 75 manipulation.  (and truthfully I wouldn't go this route without it for the legacy ending).

First I greeted Sayra, Ria and Jasper friendly

invited them to eat 

When talking to Ana click Gisette want to talk to u for 5+ manipulation

NEED TO TALK TO ZARAD, CLARMONT, EMMET  AND JARROD (for peace in Revaire ending) (would immediently go to the first introductions don't waste time on hair and makeup)

Save Penelope from Jarrod in the first introductions when talking to Clarmont

rebel secret 1 in kitchen

made Kaytia's legacy my goal

Host a event and invite Sayra 

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Met Clarmont in the garden

meet Jarrod in the training room

forbidden room (for trial- you need 100% to get rebel respect)

cliffs (rebel secret 2) 

--------week 3-------

Befriended/romanced Jarrod and rejected him, (needs 450 persuasion). 

accept Clarmont's proposal 

Host an event and invite Sayra

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Say 'I'm sure Imogen is innocent' in the supper after the murder

visit crime scene in first day and examin everything

find alibis for Imogen 

go see the other crime scene and click rummage through everything, and click everything but the water option

(70 manipulation of 50 courage needed to talk to Kade)

He's the murder ordered by the island natives. He used a rosethorn, made the horses disappear, Framed Gisette, (idk the rest off the top of my head)

On the last day Zarad with enough friendship will meet u and tell u about the weapon used and u have to go to the servants quarters to check for it. 

Achieve a perfect trial, by clicking the ace up my sleeve

Go on dates with Clarmont

-----week 5------

go to servants quarters, Mrs White will give u a nod if u have MAX approval with the rebels.

go on dates with Clarmont 

and do the break up scene with him again.

-----week 6-------

Grind poise for the negotiations

----week 7-----

no need to host the ball

follow the wiki's advice on how to bring peace in Revaire, for the legacy ending u need to convince, Gisette, Jarrod and Sayra

How_to_Bring_Peace_to_Revaire

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You definitely don't need max Ethical, I got it with a Widow that kept toeing the line and I was juuuust barely on the ethical side of the halfway mark when Clarmont tried to break up with me. (I remember I had to wait to do a murder on my personal issue storyline, finishing it JUST in time to not get arrested, so I think I was even back into Immoral when Sayra talked to me.)


Also, to get Mrs White's nod, you just need to have filled half of the Rebel approval bar (which is the "max" you can have at this point, or thereabouts).

I think you can still figure out the secret and continue the storyline with all the other requirements, and not having 50% Rebel approval just gives you a lot of Clarmont and Sayra rivalry (Mrs White gets mad at you but you still piece it together). This is probably for the allying with Gisette's family route, but maybe you can still ally with the rebels anyway...? It doesn't take away from their friendship/romance/respect, so maybe it's still possible.

I don't think you can ally with the rebels without Sayra telling the truth. But you can avoid a 'bad' end in Revaire, with the widow MC surviving at the end. 

Do I need to invite Sayra to the first event even though I know she will decline? That's the only thing I didn't do. I didn't realize the importance there can be of inviting certain people who don't come, just to raise stats with them (like Jasper). Does increasing Sayra's stats affect the rebel approval?

I've figured out the main secret every time just without the Sayra part. So she's the reason I can't participate in the rebellion? Where in the timeline does she tell you her secret so I know if I've messed up? Before the play but after the trial? An exact day would be nice if you know it. Do I need to receive Mrs. White's gift too? Or is it possible to get Sayra's secret without receiving the gift? Because I don't know what I'm not doing in order to get that gift.

My current build doesn't have high enough persuasion to give me the option of a public ambition of Katiya's legacy. Is having that as a public ambition required for the rebels? Do I need to redo the character build to increase my persuasion to make it possible?

According to a guide, Ana's acceptance to your week 1 event is automatic, but she declined. Was this previously true and now changed? Or do you have to have zero rivalry? The only rivalry answer I gave was for the etiquette boost on day 1, but gave the best answers all other times including her date.

I just fixed the guide- the requirement you saw is for characters inviting you, not you hosting events. You need <10 rivalry for Ana to accept your week 1 event (tea or musical).

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gotcha. thank you 👍

one more question. do you know if the relationship scores are considered when you send the invite or when the event happens? since Ana's date happens after you send the invite but before the event, does what you earn affect the acceptance to the invitation or was it already decided before the date, when you first sent the invitation?

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Relationship score is only considered when the event happens. Also, beware that if you offend Ana with the "proper lady" choice, this will bring enough rivalry to make her refuse your event even if you do everything right on your date with her.

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So I absolutely swear I chose all seven Jarrod reform flag options but there was no conversation with him triggered before the revaire negotiations. I wish there was a way I could check the game log to know for sure if I got them all or unknowingly missed one.

Is there any other requirement I could be missing? I didn't finish the rebel secret this time through so I never got choices with Gisette. I'm not on his romance path and my background is Revaire. But the guide doesn't list any other requirements outside of the "reform flags"

For endings. If you're from Revaire. Will you always get a bad ending unless you get peace or able to take a side?

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Updated the guide- redeeming Jarrod is tied to bringing peace to Revaire, so you need all the rebel secret and convincing Gisette to peace to have that conversation with Jarrod. And yes, Widow has to take a side in the Revaire conflict to avoid a bad ending, which means you need the rebel secrets.

How do I keep Lyon from breaking up with meee

The main thing is you need to make sure Lyon's romance level is high enough and that your MC is ethical and compassionate. After that it's a matter of you picking the right dialogue options in the choices that come afterwards. As long as you picked all the right answers OR picked almost every right answer (I think you can miss one or two) and have at least 400 persuasion you should be good to go with him!

Is there a quick way to view the list of physical attributes we chose for our MC?

I'm playing a Revaire Widow with full or near full noble, compassionate, and ethical personality traits but when Gisette came and asked for the names of rebels my only option presented was to tell her everything (and get the Royal Habits achievement). Are there other options that I could've unlocked? Is this because I also had a full ambitious trait? This is really awkward because I was romancing Clarmont :*)

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Did you get the conversation with Sayra before the one with Gisette?

No, I didn't even figure out Sarya's deal this run.

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Yeah, you have to get Sayra’s approval higher to be able to get the peace or rebel outcomes.

Quote from Aly earlier in this thread:

Sayra's friendship and respect are boosted by  choosing katyia's legacy, being nice to the servants (introducing yourself, comforting ria, sticking up for sayra when the delegate is bugging her, ) inviting her the onvu tournament,  or the girls night, saving Imogen at the trial (this is a big one, it gives a 20/20 boost for the best performance and a 10/10 for saving her)”

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you're having the exact issue I had a couple weeks ago. Everything that was already said

But you also might need Rebel approval. After the last rebel secret, Mrs. White in the servants quarters, if Clarmont's rivalry goes to 50% then rebel approval isn't high enough.

Did you get Mrs. White's Gift and Sayra/Ria's gift before the breakfast?

And on day 1, did you talk to Gisette at all? if so what was the last answer you gave?

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I wish there was a character guide to increasing specific characters' friendship for outcomes, choices, or endings.

For example, before I get to the week 7 conversation with Gisette, I've done everything else right, but I guess my friendship is barely below 50 (which I assume would be half the bar) and rivalry is 30 or higher. My friendship might be 40 or even 45. Other than Katiya's footsteps I don't think I did anything else to get Gisette Rivalry. I invited her to my events and gave her the best gift and succeeded in her event.

What other friendship boost is there? I used the guide to pick all her best conversation answers. Maintained her friendship after week 3 getting matched with someone else. At the beginning I successfully lied to her about supporting her. I visited her in the Gazebo after the horse ride.

I failed the check after the "great arguments question" I never got to the blackmail option. I went back and tried for the Sayra/Jarrod marriage and she killed me.

Can I convince Gisette to peace without getting a perfect acquittal? I got the next best thing. I guess that also adds rivalry. 
And why doesn't respect factor into these? I literally have respect from her maxed.

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this guide has a very specific walkthrough (in the week 7 tab) to choosing all the correct answers in your gisette convo, i'd also recommend looking in the guides and resources thread if you're struggling with something

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I know, that's the guide I used. I did all the right answers for both different ways to peace. 1 rejected. 2 (sayra/jarrod) dead

according to that page of the guide i need less than 30 rivalry (+2 wrong if not) and at least 50 friendship (+1 wrong if not). If I get +3 wrong there's an auto fail at the point I'm struggling with. I have both. And I need help knowing how to prevent gisette's rivalry from getting that high and how her friendship could be higher than it is because I did everything I know about. The only way to get her rivalry down would be perfect acquittal but my warfare knowledge is too low to achieve that without starting over.

EDIT: i was not friends with zarad

are you friends with zarad? you can receive a perfect acquittal without warfare if you have him to tell you the method of murder

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I think you misunderstood some parts of the guide, let me help you.

In your w7 Gisette convo, you don't need a good relationship with her to convince her to peace. The choices during the Gisette relationship check are "Yes, I do" and "Best not", choosing the latter will let you avoid the check. Now, before that choice, if you have 30 or more rivalry with her you will get +1 WRONG (or +2 if 40 rivalry, or +3 if 60 rivalry), but if you haven't pissed her off much beforehand it should be fine.

(For the record, saying your goal is Katiya's legacy gives +10 rivalry, not having all aquit for trial and just most aquit gives +20 rivalry. Katiya's Legacy pretty much requires all aquit so you probably should redo it if that's your goal.)

And yes, Zarad will help you before the trial if you're romancing him or have 25 friendship with him. Tell me if you need help on befriending him.

Thank you for clearing things up. I was under the impression that "Best not" would end the conversation. I didn't realize it only skipped a single check.

Avoiding the check, I can make it past where I was before.

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Just saw Aly's Tumblr post saying Weaver might give 10? Manipulation bonus and I'm EXCITED!!! Really helpful for my Wellin and Arland MCs! I usually choose max Manipulation in the CC for the others, but with the Weaver bonus and all the other bonuses, they could still have 75 manipulation in the beginning! So I can choose another skill in the CC! :D

I'm absolutely certain that I saw all the scenes for the Hise MC's plot (successfully got info from Hamin and Zarad), to the point where selecting "Pursue personal affairs" just kicked me back to the standard free time screen, but I never got the achievement. Did I miss something, or is this just another bug?

"Negotiation Preparation", right? I have it, so it's not fully bugged out

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What's the max manipulation you can get as the Princess from CC?  Also, can the Princess ever redeem Jarrod, or will she never have enough persuasion for the check no matter what she does? I'm trying to plan for a Princess run where she ends up with both Jarrod and Gisette but I can't tell if it's doable! Or if NG+ bonuses are a must for that route.

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Princess can get like 25 max from CC, only in the question about bandits because choosing the other options will lock her background. Plus the ng bonuses (Revaire siblings/Avalie) would be 40. Redeeming Jarrod requires his week 1 date and Arland can never get enough courage to pass it. For the Revaire 3p you don't have to do anything with Jarrod. Just be immoral, romance Gisette, and she'll handle it. Side with Revaire royals and choose "something of you both" with Jarrod in week 7. Complete the Rebel secret chain, which doesn't include Sara's secret.

I tried it while befriending Sarya and the rebels then betraying them, but I guess the previous version was bugged because it made Jarrod marry Sarya. Maybe it's fixed now, but I tried again without Sara's secret or rebel approval and it worked. Also don't choose Katiya;s legacy for goal. Hope this helps :)

All noted, thanks a bunch! <3

You can also pass Jarrod's date check with 50 Poise too if I'm not mistaken.

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Nope, it's only 50 courage or 75 manipulation - the reward for passing the date is poise which I think may be where the confusion comes from?

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You sure? I've seen 50 Courage or 50 Poise on the 7KPP wikia (when I looked a few weeks ago at least.) I'll go and test it because obviously, as the Princess I don't have the required manipulation or courage and I just looked at my princess save (my first ng+) and in character creation I didn't give her the (alleged) required poise either.

Will report back!! EDIT: Yeah, 50 Poise doesn't do it, sorry friend.

The EA guide only lists 50 courage or 75 manipulation, the Wikia is out of date and inaccurate in certain respects - I've been playing this game since 2015 and I've never passed with poise that I can remember ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haha no worries, thanks for double checking!

Is there any other way to up manipulation besides conversations? I'm wondering whether I missed something during the free time to do list option for manipulation

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Ahh could be the Jarrod practice room scene, but only one version gives manipulation if you did everything correctly in your previous interactions

You can also get manipulation from being Subtle in week 4 and Weavers gift in week 3 (pretty easy to get)

in the complete EA guide (link in guides and resources) there's a guide to what choices/unlocks raise manipulation!

Hi, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can't get the clean slate version to clear my seen text. It will work initially in 1.07 after I select the option but then when I close it and open 1.12 my seen text is still there. Is there a step I'm missing? Alternatively if someone could let me know what file to delete to brute force it (I already tried deleting the renpy file from appdata) 

Thanks!

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Hey I finally figured this out, leaving it here in case anyone else is having the same issue

Delete the 'persistent' file in the AppData\Roaming\RenPy folder then go back to the Seven Kingdom Princess Problem \game\saves folder and delete the 'persistent' file there

Simply deleting the folder in AppData\Roaming\RenPy will cause the game to pick up on the 'persistent' file in the SKPP \game\saves folder. This will then sync the file there back into the AppData\Roaming\RenPy folder.

To put it simply, both the universal persistent file and the local persistent file must be deleted to get a clean slate. If you only delete one but not the other, then the game will continue to check both locations and sync to the one that has the most progress.

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I played as the Revaire MC on my first playthrough and got the bad end, I suspect its because I didn't bother finding out about the country's internal conflict.

Its not compulsory to find out for every MC unless we are from Revaire or aiming for one of the Revaire LI are we? I don't want to play another round just to get the bad end again for the same reason 😭

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playing as revaire!mc or romancing/marrying an LI from revaire do both require you to find out about (and take a side in) the revaire conflict!

Thank you, now I can play in peace 😭

Is the rebel leader origin locked? I know the game has a prompt that says it’s unavailable right now but I keep seeing guides that say to use that origin but the game won’t let me select it

Which guides are these? The rebel origin hasn't been written yet (nor have the other two secret backgrounds). Is it possible you're confusing it with pursuing the rebel secret chain?

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From my understanding, if your LI is Jasper you need to be successful in getting the best ending for Revaire? And by getting the CGs it means that you unlocked the best ending?
I got the CG of Sayra on the throne with Gisette being her Spy Master, I got Penelope to go to Skalt, I even got Jarrod to step down peacefully but I couldn't get Jasper's CG. I even got legendary host & belle of the ball during the ball. The only thing I could think of that I'm missing is the historian route, I didn't have enough time blocks to explore that :(

Is the missing link the historian route or something else?

Not just Revaire, you need to get good/legendary outcomes for all 7 kingdoms. Please check the guide for that, see the quickstart section.

I am having problems unlocking the "more than I seem" backgrounds I have have seen two appear but it says that they aren't available yet. Is this a bug? Are they teasers for an upcoming version, or do I need to do something special to unlock them? I am playing the full version of the game, and have done a successful play-through of each main background

Those are the secret origins, they'll be available to play once the game is out of early access!

Am I understanding it correctly that if you play a widow and haven't fully unlocked the rebel secret chain it's impossible to get anything other than the worst possible ending for your character?

When Gisette came to see me during the final week, she realized I didn't know about the rebels, and just got dissapointed and left, and I was not able to have any input on the negogiations that just ended in war. I understand that the Revaire/Rebel plotline is difficult, but just..

In order to fully unlock the rebel scret chain you need at least 60 insight (specifically for the scene with Gisette and Jarrod at the cliffs in week 2). During the welcome feast I focued on roleplay/personality rather than farming insight, so did I just fully doom my character with a roleplay decision made durng the first event of the game with no possibility to do anything to change it afterwards? That seems harsh.

You are correct. You can’t get a good ending for Revaire without having completed the rebel chain.

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I agree that's pretty harsh on not letting people have different play styles and being able to get the best endings. 

It would be nice if every skill check had multiple solutions for more flexibility, instead of requiring the player to have to play one single way in order to succeed. Otherwise despite many dialogue choices, there isn't actually any choice if you want the best ending.

Does anyone know how can be noticed by the historians for the ending?

I'm on challenge mode but I kept getting the assassination ending even though I have enough stats in defensive instincts? It's a bit discouraging because I've spent so much time already on this route haha

I cannot pass the second matchmaker interview for anything. I've been trying for three days (doing both a Jiyel and a Hise background.) I have four or fewer stats less than 50, and I earned the "girl to bring home" achievement. Is it something to do with my relationships?

Or is it better to play a few runs in causal instead of challenge mode to get a feel for the game? I typically try to avoid walkthroughs on my first several runs, but now even after looking at the guides, I'm still struggling, haha.

it could be a relationships thing or an approval thing! also every skill greater than 75 will give you bonus points, same with every knowledge over 50 (or 25, in the case of secrets)

as for relationships i think you need high friendship + respect + romance with as many people as possible + little to no rivalry + high kingdom faction approval - my recommendation is to host events both weeks and generally go on as many dates as your skills/personality will let you pass

Thank you!! I finally got it. I think it was because I had some rivalry/possibly not enough friendship.

Guys is there an epilogue cg and bonus stat for Jasper?

I'm playing as a moral widow and did everything the guide say to get perfect endings for all the kingdoms but somehow  i can only get the perfect ending for Jiyel and Arland as well as golden ending for Revaire. High skills and maximum approval from all the kingdoms without missing anything (in the guide) yet the only thing i get is the proposal to stay with him and marry but only friends at the epilogues.

Is my forth time trying and nothing, not even using the remaining power. The only thing that i didn't get was Lisle and Zarad  secret (for blackmail) and i'm  playing on Story Mode.

Anyone have any idea what im doing wrong? I followed everything on the community guide and Katyia Legacy guide (meaning even Aly advices).

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If you’re able to marry Jasper but didn’t get his epilogue cg, then you’re missing legendary endings from some countries.

Are you sure you have fulfilled all the conditions listed in the quickstart section in the big spreadsheet guide? If the answer is yes, then you probably need to choose more choices that fits your best stats. Can’t really see what is missing with your play through without knowing your stats and choices made in detail, though as a widow who managed golden ending for Revaire you should have all the stats to succeed.

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to get jasper's bonus stats and epilogue, you need to get Katya's legendary ending, ,meaning you have to restore peace in Revaire without a civil war and all NATIONS must have the best peace agreements. 
The fact that you only get the perfect ending only for Jiyel and Skalt, tells me that for the other negotiations that you lack either positive relationships with the others involved or you don't have the right amount of skills. 

Choosing the right answers/ options during negotiations is the right step, but depending on the skill, which backs up whatever claim you choose your MC to say, it might backfire. 


You didn't mention that you gained Avalie as an ally. You need her to get Katya's legendary ending. Without her you can't. 

The Blackmailing is not relevant, you don't need to know Lisle or Zarad's secrets to get the legendary ending. You need to know Avalie's secret though, so that you are able to become her ally. 

Different person here. I got the legendary endings for Arland/Jiyel, Corval/Hise, and Skalt/Wellin. However, I think for Revaire I got the "good" ending, not the legendary one. Am I missing something? 

  • I convinced Gisette and her family to step down. Sayra became the queen.
  • I did NOT befriend and reform Jarrod. I rejected his week 1 date so I could go uncover secrets. 
  • Gisette did NOT become Sayra's spymaster. I know she became spymaster in some of my other playthroughs, so I don't know what I missed this time.
  • I convinced Avalie to be my ally and got the ending CG for her. (I don't know if that's relevant.)
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You have your answer there- Revaire legendary requires reforming Jarrod.

Thank you! I guess I have to reject someone else's Week 1 date.

Hi, sorry to bother anyone but I am having some trouble triggering the option to enter a political marriage while romancing a different character like Ria. I've done the three events in week 4/5 and I'm topped out on friendship with, say, Lisle and Penelope for instance... but nothing ever happens. I feel like I must be stupid or something since it doesn't seem like anyone else has asked about it. I would just appreciate some direction please.

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You need to do the political marriage option once in week 6.

thank you, you beautiful person. Now I just have to figure out why the trigger for the bonus and cg for befriending Avalie didn't work despite getting her friendship ending and I'm golden.

Thank you again, I appreciate the help a lot.

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you have to get the legendary ending for jiyel and arland if you want avalie's epilogue/bonus!

Another beautiful person D: thank you so much. Imma get them bonuses and then I will still have several other playthroughs because I love this game so much. Thank you, your help really means a lot to me, I've been feeling so frustrated I even stopped playing for a couple hours before going back and just playing again because I can't stay away lol

How to get influence points for the last negotiation?

I ended the game with max Cordelia friendship but didn't unlock her ng+ bonus stats. Only got Penelope CG in the end. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a specific requirement to get Cordelia's bonus?

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all the friendship epilogues require getting the legendary ending for that character's kingdom

Ohh. I remember getting the Jemin wedding to go ahead successfully and also help Corval and Hise make an united merchant fleet. Is there something more needed for Hise's legendary ending?

So as the game is now in ver 1.12, I'd assume it's finally finished? Or is it still a WIP? I played demo version years ago and really liked it, can't wait to finally play the full version.

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the base game (without the new game plus origins/romances) is complete and fully playable, yes!

Thank you for your answer! So in other words the base game is now fully complete but some sort of "DLC" is yet being developed?

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less DLC (everyone will get them for free when they're ready) and more secret content you can unlock by doing specific things in a run! but yes, the bonus content is still being worked on :)

Thanks! I so hope romancing Lady Avalie is among those... :P

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Avalie is out of the running (if you're close enough friends with her she explains why), but there are two other F/F routes coming

As mysterious as ever! 

in addition to Gisette, Ana and Ria? Nice!

Wouldn't also mind a Wooley romance ngl, though I guess he and Avalie are kinda entangled...

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woodly is romanceable! just check the guides

Yes was JUST reading it and saw that! Nice!

btw I had a question. What is the requirement of getting a personal date in week 3? In my first playthrough of the proper game I couldn't get one for Gisette for some reason even though she seemed overall interested in me. I remember to be able to do that in the demo but not here. My relationship stats are almost equal parts friendship, romance and respect, is that the reason? Or was I wrong to also seduce her brother (I figured the way for us to be together would be a political marriage to her brother and looking at the guide I was correct).

Now at my last interview with the MM, there was no romance nor political marriage option so I dropped this playthrough for now to start over. Or is there still a chance for romance at this stage of the game?

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so, there are two different kinds of routes in this game - full routes and secret routes (with some weird ambiguous edge cases like jarrod and lisle). the full routes are generally with the kinds of people the matchmaker would approve of you pairing off with, and they get week three dates. gisette is a secret route, so she doesn't get one. if your relationship values are high enough when you're going to see the matchmaker for the last time at the end of week three, she'll interrupt you on your way there, send jasper away, and imply that she's interested in you. (if you go to the gazebo right after the horse incident in week two you'll have a scene with her there that comes with a relationship boost, a stat boost and a CG, which are necessary to get the values high enough, i think?)

i'd actually avoid pursuing jarrod if you're interested in gisette unless you have the stats to talk him down after rejecting him - just be evil and avoid him, and gisette will do the rest

also, your relationships with Everyone are reliant on how well you perform at events, including the self-hosted ones - everyone you invite gets a big boost of friendship, respect, and potentially romance, which is great for building romance with the secret routes!

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Hey, know this is pretty late, but after doing NG+ and just doing the fun stat building, I got down and used guides and scrolled through a lot. I've very much used the ones listed here, but the coder in me just wanted to build something that did the things I just really wanted  (plus itching to be "productive"). So I created an online site for simplifying the stat builder process so that the options are easy to see and how they affect stats instead of flipping back and forth through things. This only fixes my needs for the character builder section currently (and not the -15, -10 at the end, which I might add later on). 

https://7kppcharbuilder.vercel.app/

Helps a lot! Thx!

How do you save your mother as a pirate?

Befriend Zarad. He'll tell you. 

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