Ignoring your trash talk, I agree with the part that you seem to try to claim that everybody involved in the creation of the game deserves similar recognition, but...

You clearly recognize challenges devs face and give solid examples like "missed sleep for several days on projects they rush" but leave it very abstract about your criticism saying things like  "have the biggest stick up their arses" and "think the world must bend at the knee", can you give examples in that sense?

"You are a Developer (Creator) if you; Play some indie devs games and give feedback"

I'm just going to say it: going around and flaming content creators or other people does NOT make you a 'developer.' Given that the last bit at the end was absolutely pure garbage, I wish I had the foresight to stop reading at this line and close my tab.

At least you labeled this thread appropriately...

Yeah, I’m not sure what exactly you’re getting at. I’ll return once you edit in more details.

i will watch this later

Yeah, this is gonna need more context because the post is vague as hell, kind of all over the place, and reads more as venting than anything else. I can’t say for sure from just this, but my gut instinct is that you’ve had some really bad experiences with folks and are just kinda extrapolating that to all programmers for some reason.

It also sounds like you’re equating some things players do with positions in production, but in some cases what you’ve described isn’t what those roles actually do on a game production–and it’s not really clear how that aside even connects to the rest of the post? Please consider a second pass or something, even without examples your post is hard to parse and I can’t imagine you’ll get much intelligent discussion out of it unless you improve that.

You are all giving too much attention to a spoiled boy with empty arguments and lots of shit talking.

Whatever!

You are a Developer (Creator) if you; Play some indie devs games and give feedback (Game build, producers essentially when you give ideas and feedback) = (Quality Assurance and playtesters unpaid, volunteer). If you are a Voice Actor, you're developing a part of the games sound (Audio and such), 

Your word definition is wrong. What you are talking about is contributing. Not developing. Yes some measly feedback of aplayer can contribute to a game. But that  is not developing the game. 

A voiceactor is not "developing part of the games sound". They are voicing what they are told to voice.

There is literally no difference between those that develop games through coding and programming, long, undocumented and unconfirmed hours by choice, for free.

 And those that develop the final product, unpaid, through interaction and giving the product attention, advertsing, and  by choice, for free.

Rephrased:  There is literally no difference between developers and  interaction contributors  such as players of   the game.

Ahm. No. That is wrong. There are lots of differences. this is one of them fallacies. equating stuff, just because they share one aspect. Devs contribute to a game, reviewers contribute to a game, hence they are same. and literally, on top of course. That is  a formally wrong argument.

And it is still wrong, if you exchange developer for creator as you did with the ().   reviewing something is not creating it. To put it bluntly, if i  were present at your conception and cheered your parents on, i am not equal to your father or mother ;-) what they did for your creation is fundamentally different from my contribution. or the person that rented them the appartment or the sales guy selling them the bed or even the people introducing them  to each other. while they all played a minor or even major   part in that conception, they did not (pro)create.

That said, you could make an argument that many indie games need interaction with fans in development and are acting like they do not need input. But the thing is, player input is to be taken with sceptisicm.   Many players do not bother with feedback. So you never know, if what the loudest players tell you, is actually good for your game or jsut what those loudest players rant about. Just look at your rant. you obviously got emotional about something. but do you represent the playerbase of all games you played? I dare say, not. not for all of them. for some or many you might be a fringe target group. listening to your input might make those  games worse.