i'll be honest, i won't be using it. but thanks for including 32bit versions of your tool 🤝
there aren't many who think of 32bit machines anymore.
No, not impolite at all, don't worry.
I wouldn't say i only played 30 minutes, i think i played for an hour or so. Or maybe it just *felt* longer, idk. But i didn't get neither the jump or run power-ups as you thought, yeah. See, i might be the one being impolite for not having played so much of your game !
I can understand building your game so that evey upgrade feels deserved and empowering, but i still think the movement without these two upgrades i'm supposed to get later is too hard to master, too tight. At least for me. What made me let quit the game on my first playthrough was when i was getting the pieces of Heart after having climbed down from the vines in the sky, not so long after getting that ability. The level-design made it look like i had to get all the heart pieces, which led me into what seemed like 20 more minutes of play without those jump and run power-ups i was expecting impatiently. I didn't want to get through another 20 minutes of slow progression through small gauntlets.
Don't get me wrong, having no jump in a platformer is very interesteing and i can see you tried (successfully) to provide interesting situations without the ability to jump. But that jump is such a basic ability nowadays, i felt so incapacitated comapred to other games, and the narrative didn't provide any hint as to when or even *if* i would even get that ability... all of that tried my luck a bit too far that evening. And i can see a good portion of others get impatient too.
Maybe if i had some other active ability to compensate for that... the climbing ability was a good idea ! but not really creative, as you can only climb on pre-set vines...
ok ok i'm getting too far.
I'll stop writing my thoughts now because clearly i haven't gone too far into the game for now. I did want to give it another go, play through another session to see where i could get too and if i could find more enjoyment in the following levels. So I'll get back to you when i have more time with your game ;)
Heyo, i just tried this game on the computer i told you. It works very well ! It slows down in bigger areas but that's entirely my computer's fault.
This is a work of love and it shows. Everything is very intentional and from the very second you start the game, you know what you're getting into. I've got a Windows XP 2000 indie game vibe. Both in a good, and in a bad way.
The games created back then were from passionate developers doing their thing in their own corner and sharing their work with the world when they wanted to. That's waht you're doing too. I can see myself spending some time in this world you crafted, vibing to the fantastic music -it is fantastic!- and letting my eyes wander onto your lovingly crafted sprites. Keep doing your thing, you're doing it wonderfully! All in all, my short experience so far was that of an "hommage" to an area of older platformers which were more demanding of the player's time and skills.
One thing i didn't think would be of so much importance to me is the difficulty: your game is challenging, in many places even frustrating. The controls, ennemy and platform placement don't allow for much maneuvering and if you don't jump on that bird at its very peak altitude, you won't get further and fall to your death, instantly punished. This wouldn't be such a problem if, say, the screen was a little more zoomed in and i could see the pixels i am supposed to be bouncing off of, or if i could recover easily in the earlier levels. I don't mind a little challenge, but i felt most of the platforming was tedious precision jumping that made me squint at the screen, rather than enjoy the challenges i was put through. The jump/bounce/falling curve is really odd to me as i was expecting it to carry the momentum from going left to right but it seems to stop and slowly accelerate when you press the direction key, which makes most of the jumps unnatural, to me at least.
The way Bobo is controlled in your game -unfortunately, for me- is very "dated". The characters isn't very reactive, moves slowly, and jumps awkwardly. Combined with unforgiving platforming, it makes for tedious challenges that require discipline and precision, and that is not easy to enjoy for its own sake. In a way, this forces you to be fully focused onto the game, because you don't instantly get how to master Bobo right away.
Now, i think i'm trying to be critical of the mechanics of your game, but this is not what really matters here i feel, is it? I like your game, and i like that you're making it. I can enjoy the world you built and appreciate the time you put into it. In the end, i just don't think this is a game for me.
Official statement from co-host Avis ;)
Join us on the Discord ! we're very much unproductive gamejam-wise but we all know we'll be working on this on the last month of 2029 sooooooo. https://discord.gg/PM5kRC3
Hihello,
I came to discuss a particular issue regarding the side menu UI on game pages, but i realize there's a lot more to talk about.
I've been part of the Decade Jam community since it's begining (almost 3 years now) and many of our submissions happen to be part of multiple other jams on top of ours, which tends to greatly lengthen the size of that side menu.
Here is my feedback on the matter, and suggestions to improve it.
YES.
These were my thoughts on this side-menu buttons. I hope this insight was helpful and that you'll consider the options i gave you.
I thoroughly enjoyed my time with your game, however short it was. It was beautifuly made, with heart and intention. Everything looked slick and finished, and that Demo label is a bit of an understatement for the state in which your game is right now ^^ probably you want to add more content next ? idk.
(more specifically, the 32bit Windows version without a hassle, even on my old and slow laptop)
Here is a list of things i noted and might need some adjustments:
That's it for my feedback, hope i am of some help :)
J'ai enfin pris le temps de faire cette démo. Le jeu est simple à la compréhension, clair comme il faut, mais je crois que la démo ne permet pas de se faire un avis sur les mécaniques du jeu. Comme il semble que tu t'inspires des livres-dont-vous-êtes-le-héros, l'équilibrage fera beaucoup dans l'appréciation de l'histoire et de la progression. D'ailleurs, j'ai gardé mes bottes et j'ai tué un mort-vivant, j'espère ça me donne droit à un bonus dans la version complète :p
La présentation en tous les cas est irréprochable pour un prototype!
Très bon document, clair et concis ! Des conseils de base pour tous ceux qui ne savent pas comment s'y prendre, c'est très bien.
Perso j'ai rien appris de neuf, je crois que je connais assez bien les bases :p j'aimerais pouvoir trouver (ou proposer si ça existe pas) quelque chose de plus exhaustif un jour qui puisse proposer des tournures de phrases-type neutres pour remplacer les tournures classiques genrées. Pour économiser du temps à l'écriture !
Works wonders in my browser! but the .exe doesn't work on my computer: it is made for 64bit architectures, and mine is only 32bit.
I didn't understand that the left card always makes you go left, and the right card only makes you go right. Maybe you should clarify that.
The action is a lot more readable compared to the last version thanks to the icons above the characters and the lowered speed at which they attack. But because the icons for your last action only appear the next turn, i would think at first that the icons were representing the action that i'd be performing this next turn ! Maybe only show the icons WHEN the characters move and WHEN the action is performed, but make them disapear after that. Like for example, make the shield glow around the character when it moves and make it disapear after that.
Also, if you put yourself against the wall and continue choosing the card that goes towards that wall, the AI can have somehow has a hard time attacking you sometimes, and will stay in place, neither going backwards or onwards.
I didn't understand why sometimes i'd go through the enemy without hitting them. I had either a wild boar attack or a simple attack on, and they didn't have a shield on, so why didn't they get hurt ?
Heyo,
Mitch seems to forget which page i was browsing if i decide to switch to the desktop or another app. Especially sad when i'm browsing the 37th page of an obscure jam which i dont remember the name of.
Even more strange is that today i reopened Mitch to browse some more, i changed focus to another app, and vhen i came back tw Mitch it didn't remember the page i was just browsing, but instead brought me back to a page i was browsing *yesterday*. How is that possible 😵
Thanks for the work you've already done on Mitch ! and thanks for your time
Alright, i don't have experience in uploading different builds of my game on here, so i just assumed from one of the topic i linked :)
But my point still stands: the uploaded builds are not *tagged* as working on a 32bit or 64bit architecture.
Here an example:
Here you have a bunch of different builds, named by the developers as working for windows, mac or linux... but as you can, the 32bit and 64bit architectures are not differentiated by a little badge like OS are. Allowing this tag would be especially useful for indie games with a single build (which are legion here) which are most of the time just named after the game itself.
Another example here:
See ? as a gamer i cannot know if this game will work on my 32bit architecture.
If itch.io adds a tag for 32bit or 64bit games, it will at least raise attention to the devs that this difference exists, because right now i bet most don't know this is a crucial difference.
There are external tools which work well as poll tools, an integrated poll tool isn't necessary imo. Unless you really want to ensure that people answering your poll are itchio users, but i don't see easily when that could be useful... 🤔
Following suggestions made here, here and there:
Please allow uploaded builds of our games be tagged as compatible for 32-bit computers, 64-bit computers, or both.
Currently, this is a problem for both developers and gamers, as showed above in previous topics.
Developers miss an opportunity to further specify the required specs for their games, and seemingly struggle to upload different builds for the same OS, while gamers cannot know in advance if the game they're downloading will work on their computer.
👉 As games on itch.io are published in a wide variety of shapes and forms, deployed on wildly different machines and OS, having more ways to identify and predict the behavior of games downloaded will greatly help everyone.
EDIT: to illustrate my claim, here the typical download page you're faced with on itch.ioYou can identofy the OS just fine, but how can you know this 65MB game will work on your 32bit infrastructure after you've downloaded it ? As of now, if you don't ask the developers, you can't.
there is the Submission section above the Decade Jam forums (or click here) , that lets you browse games made by everyone. on your submitted game's page, too, on the right, there hould be a button saying "Submitted to the Decade Jam".