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Wolf Discussion

A topic by ali_ath72 created Jul 27, 2022 Views: 1,034 Replies: 16
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While Wolf is goodest boy,  I felt like his presence was lackluster. There wasn't much protection the hotel needed, given MC's powers and Asterion's massive fist flying into Jean's face. I absolutely adore Wolf's face whenever he's there, and I acknowledge that he cannot speak. However, not speaking is no excuse for a poorly written character! There's many good characters in media and even in other Furry VN's that do little to no speaking. I think it's important to highlight how other characters would interact with Wolf,  such as having  previous experience with wild animals, or even having a fear of dogs. A little bit of this was explored with only Asterion and Luke, (although that might just be Luke's lack of self-preservation).  Wolf's prelude was all about earning trust and trusting humans, crossing the boundary between species in the midst of harsh survival mindset, yet there was no trust to ever be established between MC and Wolf. Nevertheless, he is a good boy that is just happy to be there. <3

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This will be explored in wolf's content, which is still being written.

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he is only a pupy who just arrived

plz give him time 2 meet evry1 uwu

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I feel like Wolf being able to talk would be the perfect excuse for him ending up in the hotel. He gets born into a pack and when he starts talking he gets kicked out. He tries to join other packs but when he talks he basically gets told GTFO. So he wanders around until he crosses into the hotel's sphere of influence. 

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what are you talking about? we know how he ended up in the hotel, that's like 99% of his content currently.

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I know that, it just seems like there is no reason for him to be there. Unless I'm forgetting something. 

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Wolf is there because they is unable to form symbiotic relationships with both humans and other wolves. They're "lost" and probably able to find solace with being around MC and Asterion for the time being.

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He is looking for friends and he always envied pets, but his problem is that he is always misunderstood.

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It would be cool if the hotel could offer interspecies translation, so he could understand human speech and we wouldn't misunderstand his body language, either.

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the problem with that is, do animals even have language? you can't translate a sound that doesn't really mean anything

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some animals seem to, I've seen findings that some bats have a few dozen sounds that appear to have definite meanings and will even use the sounds differently between familiar and unfamiliar bats. It might not be true language but it could be the foundation of one

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I always been under the assumption that most mammal and avian species communicate vocally. There are lots of inflection tones between when dogs: Bark, whimper, whine, howl, snarl, etc; or when Cats: mewl, hiss, growl, purr, etc. Birds definitely have several calls for warning, gathering, mating, food sightings also

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yes, but i figured it would be akin to a polyvalent word. the word itself doesn't mean anything, but the entonations and how you express it in tells you what is the intended message. i know for a fact dogs and cats can recognize certain words the owners use. so you'd think if they had a translatable language, someone would have figured out a dogtionaire by now

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The hotel translates the meaning rather than sounds and grammar. I thought the gist of what we are trying to say to smell for example, and he wouldn't suffer from olfactory white room torture like when the halls cleaned up his piss. He was already trying to guess by the tone of voice. Body language differences like not jumping on humans in greeting and eye contact doesn't mean they want to fight, human biology, emotions and social dynamics, so he wouldn't try to eat grapes or chocolate to fit in or come to us for help if he gets injured. And how a conscious human mind can be helpful or what to do when the bull-man gets a panic attack or a mentally ill human comes in.

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The Mc knows about Wolf since Asterion and Luke will certainly tell him, and you can see some instances (can't call them interactions since there was no direct conversation) where the Mc acknowledges Wolfs presence in his inner monologues like in the drinking game scene or the pool if you chose to hire him, so the whole trust establishing phase can be skiped. Tho I wish that he had hangout routes like the rest of the crew, that could let us explore how far does the hotel translation goes too.

Quick question: You mentioned Asterion's fist flying into Jean's face but in the scene it says "your fist lands" so I am a bit confused.

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It's been a while since my last full playthrough but iirc either the MC or Asterion will punch Jean depending on the choices you make

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tbf, it's not like wolf was picked to not have hangout scenes. kota and khenbish only got theirs after, themba also doesn't have one yet, and robert, technically doesn't have hangouts, he has a recruitment sequence. granted i imagine wolf will get the short end of the stick in terms of priority. mostly on how do you even write hangout scenes for a non talking animal, while also justifying it over giving development towards the husbandos?