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(Spoilers) The star on Asterion

A topic by Kiosrand created Aug 30, 2021 Views: 1,373 Replies: 14
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Ok, so we get this scene in the game right.

So, first things first, that the star thing on his head? Yeah, that doesn't appear until this point of the story. Secondly, something does happen to Asterion at this point, something that the labyrinth itself responds to. Strangely enough, if you get that one ending where Argos is trapped in the hotel by himself, you can also see the same star on his head.

So, what does this mean? I'm thinking this may be somewhat related to what Robert says if you talk to him in your free time. He mentions that Asterion has what he calls a "drained chaos and divinity" within him. Since this scene talks about a power growing within him, could it be that some of his original power is coming back to him? And maybe this relates back to the Argos scene because now Argos has been forced to play the part of the minotaur? I don't really know but I think its really interesting. What are some of your ideas about this?

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I don't know if the star in Asterion's head is for real a birthmark, but it's seen in his first trial when Androgeos tries to convince the judges, so I assume that's a birthmark. Just curious, the name Asterion means Starry,  that's the reason Androgeos and MC call him "Little Star". 

Now,  going back your topic,  I suppose his birthmark will be more important during the next builds. Now, Argos' situation in one of the endings, I think this is the punishment to let MC go further with "gods' will", nothing so rare if we're looking at other greek heroes' myths

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Huh, thanks for pointing out the trial scene, completely forgot about that. Hopefully we get to know more about the star in future builds

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It is, indeed, a birthmark.

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With what we know right now, i can only assume it symbolizes his freedoom. As far as being confortable in expressing his thoughts and standing up for himself at least. I would guess his imprisonment must have caused him to subconciously suppress whatever the star is, likely related to his olympian origins.

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I think the scene where he shoots the star from the sky after three tries is likely relevant. I don't have the game pulled up, but I believe he does this with Phroneos although he gives the feathers to Androgeus. In that act and the underground labyrinth, there's a sense of brotherhood, family, and strength all tied together. The wrestling feels ritualistic because of it but is also a bit odd in that he's seemingly honoring himself, or rather a self he considers dead die to his supposed cowardice. I imagine it appears when he's subconsciously accepted his true nature. It's almost certainly tied with what Robert said. The gods need worshippers to exist, after all, so by honoring the piece of himself that is divine with your character, he may have inadvertently reawakened it.

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The gods need worshippers to exist, after all, so by honoring the piece of himself that is divine with your character, he may have inadvertently reawakened it.

This is so cool 

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oh my god the birthmark came back because he regained faith in himself, this RULES i love it 

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I actually love that idea lol

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Okay, that’s cool as hell. Plus, I think the birthmark also comes back when he’s decided for himself that he’s innocent, just before the renaming ceremony? He puts on the cloak and goes in front of the mirror, where he has the birthmark again. After this point, it doesn’t go away. I think it fits in really well with the idea of Asterion having faith in himself causing the birthmark to reappear.

ok so I already finished a lot of the endings in minohotel but how do you get the one with Argos trapped?

this is better asked in ruthless route discussion. once you get to it, try to be nice and agree with argos plan

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Might be more of an oblique reference, but it could also reference the Mark of Cain

10 The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

Not that I think Asterion did anything wrong, but the  difficulty with the land / mark on his head leads me to think this might be part of it.

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After this scene Asterion mentions that it scar on his neck is gone too (the ring of fire around his neck being broken).

Since Asterion was killed using the labrys that can cut the threads of fate does that mean Asterions thread of fate has been restored?

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I've been waiting to read the tablets until I collected all of them. Having done so, I think it does indeed point to his thread being restored. 

This is all my interpretation based on the tablets and the ruthless route, but it seems Asterion was given two options to escape. The first would be to take freedom for himself given to him by those who pitied him or regretted their actions. The second would be to right the wrong he was accused of by actually fighting an opponent who wanted to defeat him. The result wouldn't matter, but he absolutely could not back down. However, he would need enough freedom from a master in order to fulfill this, which is why he's never been able to until now. He needed to stay a prisoner of a labyrinth in order to gain freedom and have his ember rekindled from nothing, essentially, and the rules were created to stop that from happening. 

I think Poseidon's gift, which relates to what he sees as a moment of weakness when he questions whether he should escape by sea, is a backdoor. A failsafe. I also think the master situation is a cruel repurposing of his refusal to leave without permission from Laomedon, along with his eventual crime.