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Great! Glad to be useful sometimes.

I understand better your code now, it's basically the same solution I was suggesting. :-D

If more people were using this tool, I would probably consider to add it as an alternate mode. For some kind of games, it makes a lot of sense!

OK, the code change is the culprit in my opinion.

When you load a save point, Narrate is called with loading = true. The loading flag is set to false only after Narrate returns, in the final line of Load. This means that your while loop goes on forever, which crashes Unity.

I guess you could fix it by adding something like this:

while (story.canContinue || loading) 
{
  // ...
  if (loading)
  {
     // Stop the loop after one iteration
     loading = false;
  } else { 
     story.Continue();
     // ...
  } 
  // ...
}

I'm not sure about this, though, because I don't know the details of your code.

I believe I see what you're trying to do here: I guess you want a long multi-line text to be displayed at once, and the breaks are only when a choice is to be made. I would have done it differently, which does not mean it's better, just safer. I would have created an intermediate object that collects and concatenates all the messages instead of the SayDialog, and called sayDialogToUse.doSay only when a choice is to be displayed.

Let me know if your modified Gateway finally works as expected!

Hi zorkie,

 this code change is definitely sus. :-D 

I'm looking into it, my memory fails me and I need to check the code more thoroughly. Back to you as soon as possible.

In the meantime, have you tested what happens if you revert the code change? Does the load/save work?

Hi! Sorry I couldn't reply before. Gateway's developer here.

Would you mind giving me some more information about the issue?

• Is the Unity editor just crashing or does it log something to the console?
• What do you have besides the narrative part? Remember that the loading can only restore the state of the Story, but it cannot automatically handle whatever happens outside the scope of the Narrative Director, this should have its own save/load system in parallel to the one provided by the Gateway.
• What happens if you try to do save and load on a minimal supersimplified version of your prototype? Let's say it's just got the same basic structure but a supersimple .ink file, like just a few lines.

Feel free to share more, I really hope we can fix this together. Just forgive me in advance if I cannot reply quick enough, I know it can be frustrating.

Very well done. I won't add this in the tool itself because I don't want to break potential situations in which the blank line was the expected behaviour for some kind of artistic effect, but it looks like the bold thing to do.

OK, version 1.3.0 is being processed by the Unity Asset Store reviewers.

It uses Unity 6.2, Ink 1.2.2 and Fungus CE 0.6.

Yay!

I know it was centuries ago, but I tried again and I could not reproduce the issue. I really don't see when this happens. Perhaps updating Ink to the latest version fixed it?

Thank you! I'm very glad to hear this.

This is great news. I have placed the upgrade of IFG in my todo list, and hopefully I will get it done before 2026 comes. Not sure though. :-)

Try harder! Revolution is not easy.

It does end! You can tell you won if you saw a rainbow. Did you? 

Thanks for playing, by the way!

Hey!

Good question: I was planning to do this check sooner or later, but I have delayed it so many times you can't imagine.

Would you like to verify what happens if you use it in a Unity 6 project?

I should definitely roll out a U6 version, probably switching to Fungus Community Edition.

I have a less impacting idea: we can just check if we are in this buggy situation immediately after loading. In that case, the option is automatically chosen. It's very ad hoc but it could work.

My general opinion is that it makes more sense to only allow saving in sparse key points of the story. But this is more of a game design point.
I'm really not sure how we may fix this. I could just modify the Gateway so that blank options are not delivered, but I'm afraid someone could have used blank options meaningfully and it would break their expectation.

Oops, I snubbed a key part of your question - and it was in the thread title too! This happens when loading the game. I'm afraid this is not a detail.

Does the bug occurs if you load the game immediately before the choice?

My new guess is that if you save the game in a position where a choice happens, but the choice is actually overriden by the fallback option, when you load it it is positioned at the brink between the sentence before the choice and the default sentence after the choice. Usually, this non-choice is just skipped and we fast forward to the next sentence, but by loading it in that exact point the engine has to display something and the blank sentence is delivered.

It looks more like a quirk of the Ink engine but I'm not sure.

Your game looks lovely. I want to play it thoroughly.

I'm investigating. First of all, let's rule out that the unexpected behaviour could be on the Ink layer. Can you send me a part of the .ink source where the fallback choice is used?

I'm a bit surprised by the conditional in a fallback choice. Fallback choices are used when the choice pool is depleted, what do you expect to happen if the conditional is false?

Hey! Thank you very much zorkie, and sorry for replying so late.

It's such a long time I don't check this project, which is a pity because it definitely needs to be updated to the latest versions of Unity. My first guess, completely based on gut feeling, is that it has something to do with the way you write the fallback choice, like how many blank spaces you put between the star symbol and the arrow.

If you give me an example project I can investigate! BTW, let me know what you're working on, if it's not a secret, I would be so glad to know more about your work.

Have a nice day and keep in touch.

Hardly so. I'm a lifelong Trotskyist.

Hey Elisa, for some reason I missed this comment and I'm answering it only now, 5 years later.  First of all, thank you for your appreciation and the time you spent playing this game.

In the real world, this was not a story a violent political activism. We were beaten by the police but we did nothing violent. In the game, you can explore different possibilities, including strict respect of police orders or active violence. Obviously, the consequences of those choices in the game reflect my opinion of those tactics, and this is debatable but there's no way a game can be completely neutral - and it's not desirable, in my opinion.

About neutrality, I don't believe the police is neutral and has the function of enforcing the law. This is the way they advertise themselves, but my experience tells otherwise. The police defends the status quo, including, to some extent, fascists and racists. Actually, most cops and carabinieri in Italy are fascists and racists, and this is not by chance; there are exceptions, particulary in the lowest ranks, and I know some cases, but unfortunately they're in a minority.

I and Chiara did not depict the cops as pigs, but as dogs. It's the Fascists that were depicted as pigs. I leave it to the player any inference from this… er… "artistic" choice.

Organising unauthorised demonstrations in Italy is not a crime. The law is more nuanced: demonstrations are a constitutional right, but you are supposed to notify the police with a little advance. They can forbid it only for serious reasons. In this case, we notified them in September (for November). The police falsified the fax date and told us that the Fascists had asked the same square before us (in the trial it emerged that they did it the day after). In any case, we did not demonstrate in the forbidden square. The police attacked us in any case because we were in the way of the Fascist march.

I believe that we did right. You say that we should fight unjust rules about "unauthorised" demonstrations, instead of breaking those rules. But what we did is actually the only effective way we had to fight that wrongful enforcement of the rules.

Thanks!

Yeah, it's so tiny that understanding the way it works is basically the game itself.  :-)

Still, the title screen can work as a silent microtutorial…

Oh please, jam organizers, let it in!

Micro-themes:

• The Violence Inherent in the System
• Balance and Unbalance

Do you know what's really cool? This → https://villadelfina.itch.io/gincana

I see! In Construct, layers trump Z-elevation, which can break the perspective. In order for Z-elevation to work with perspective the objects whose Z-elevation you want to manipulate (with my addon or manually or in another way) have to belong to the same layer.

This gave me headaches so many times…!

Thank you Samuel!

Which problem have you met? I can help.

Hello!

Thank you for your kind words.

It is definitely feasible via messages to flowcharts (i.e., tags in Ink automatically translated into Fungus messages by the Gateway), but I get your point. We might include a special syntax to handle the stage controls, like we do for dialogs, characters and portraits. My only concern is that the amount of parameters could be overwhelming.

If you had a magic wand, what kind of syntax would you like to see implemented? Can you write a sort of documentation of this potential new feature?

130! It's interesting the game gets more and more difficult as the penguing grows in size, until you are eventually bound to succumb to the raining seals. What did you use to make it?

Yet another playable leaflet by Pietro Polsinelli, Pino Panzarella and myself.

In Divide et Impera, you are a disingenuous political leader cunningly exploiting hate speech to divide and rule.

Pick your next tweet, target it to 9 individuals on the portraits' grid, analyse the effect of your reckless activity, try and break the links that keep the fabric of your community together. How many hateful tweets will it take to split the community?

Play it @ https://maurovanetti.itch.io/dei or download it on your smartphone from the official stores.

Bilingual version: English (Trump) and Italian (Salvini).

Please let me know your opinion about this game and the mechanics used to convey our message. Thanks!

Played in Chrome on Windows and it's lovely. The procedural soundtrack is amazing.

Thank you!
Actually, it's a bug but the bug is letting the players save their match. :-) It's so short it doesn't really make much sense. I should just disable the saving.

The bug was fixed with this small change: https://github.com/maurovanetti/inkfungus-template/commit/29c5103478333e56a44cbd...
The bugfix will be available in v1.0.2 in the next few days.

Thank you again for your precious feedback.

I have reproduced the bug easily and I've created an issue about it: https://github.com/maurovanetti/inkfungus-template/issues/8
Hopefully it's going to be solved very soon.

Thank you, now it is much clearer to me. I'll be checking this issue in the week end, watch this space.
Jumps are among the least tested features of the integration and it's more than likely that some corner cases weren't properly addressed.

Ready! http://u3d.as/1S4R

BTW, it is on the Unity Asset Store now. :-) 

http://u3d.as/1S4R

Hi! Thank you for using the Gateway, I'm really glad to receive feedback from actual users.

I'm not sure I understood what you're trying to achieve. If you want to start the scene at a specific knot, this is dealt with by Ink and there's no need to use the "Ink/Jump To" command in a Fungus flowchart. Just put -> knot at the beginning of your Ink script.

But if you want to control the flow from a Fungus flowchart, you can do that. The example scene in https://github.com/maurovanetti/inkfungus-template gives you an idea of how you might do that. Can you explain better what happened in your case? You said that it correctly jumps to the right know, but nothing happens, which makes me wonder how you found out that it correctly jumps there.

Silly question: are you sure you are talking about the "Ink/Jump To" command and not the "Flow/Jump" command?

Let me know and sorry for the late response, I was ultra-busy… playing Oxygen Not Included. :-)

I'm so glad to hear about that! Please let me know more about that, will you send me a link? Even better, if you could post it on the Unity Asset Store that would really help other people to realise what they can do with this.

Thank you! We will, we definitely will.

Loved it.

Yeah but how would you be able to meaningfully play with some people muted?
Furthermore, there are many languages in this game but they are still a minority of world languages. My language, for example, has 60+ million native speakers and yet it's not in the list.