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I played through the demo and poked around some youtube playthroughs and as a queer/non-binary VN writer this feels like it's like 80% of the way there, but ultimately misses the mark. Even if the intent was not to make the cast trans-women, the strict adherence to she/her pronouns and referring to the cast as women all the time makes them virtually indistinguishable other than one or two cutesy lines about "what's under their skirts." Even the purple-haired character's sister calls them "sis." It feels like I'm reading  a conventional dating sim where the girls have flat chests and penises and that's literally the only difference.

I really do wish y'all the best and appreciate the effort toward creating more content like this, lord knows we could use more, but I would implore you to find some LGBTQ test readers, especially within the femboy/crossdressing community. I think there are a lot of very fun ideas that I'd love to see in a visual novel that you wouldn't see in a conventional dating sim. Have different characters prefer different pronouns, with some insisting on he/him and being called a guy. Have a newbie that keeps slipping up and doing masculine things or falling into a deeper vocal register. Show characters presenting masc outside of work. Show the drama of characters needing to hide this aspect of themselves from friends/family. There's a giant elephant in the room with "gender" painted on the side in big block letters, and if there's ever a place to stop ignoring it, it's here.

Of course, this was all based on the demo content and skimming some paths from youtube playthroughs. If there are any routes that tackle gender identity in some meaningful way, please point me in that direction and I will gladly buy this game.

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i'm not an american, but isn't this(the comment above) what americans call woke shit??

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Yes exactly. They are misunderstanding what this game is. They don't get what Otoko no ko is even when you explain it.

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“woke shit” LMAO you’re posting on the website that’s currently hosting a queer bundle for mutual aid

trans people are not your enemy

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Basically, yes.

Going to a fetish game, apropriating the theme, and calling for more representation of your own agenda. That is quite woke.

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They're FEMBOYS.

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you have no future

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Are you threatening me? Cuz it's not working.

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not a threat but a genuine assessment on what you have in hold for you. you are hopeless and deserve little to nothing in life. amen.

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Why?

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because god failed to look you in the eyes and deem you worthy. i hope you dont see actual transwomen as 'femboys' and i hope when you try to present yourself in a way you like, people will treat you if not, just as worse. i hope you have a good day.

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I'm not saying trans women are femboys?

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They're...not trans. It would be nice if they were ig, but the characters are CLEARLY under the "Otoko no ko" category. Men who have feminine gender expression. Not trans, not nonbinary. Just, cis dudes who like to be called she/her and to dress in a feminine way.

Stop attacking people when u dont even understand the genre of the game YOU clicked on, lmao

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usually i'd type up a response telling you to go kill yourself but we all have standards and i don't want them to be as low as yours

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YOURE SO BASED

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the characters in this game aren't transwomen and the developer refers to them as men in the product description

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God made them fearfully and wonderfully so, you sound like you do not know God

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I think you were very polite in your suggestions. Looking at the game, it seems like they are employing a concept called femboys, so them presenting as "she" makes sense. Personally, I love the femboys but this is coming from a cis person. And overall, testing the game with LGBTQ testers is a great idea! As it ensures that a game is LGBTQ+ friendly :)

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Only problem is, crossdressing is not lgbt. Funny how many people think that. Or rather a sad symptom how the woke mindset twists so many ideas.

Many a lesbian, gay, bi or transgender, and even qeer person might crossdress. But crossdressing itself is neither of those.

And to say it even more clear, only the transgender would crossdress just because they are under the t umbrella in lgbt, and only as a prelude to their transition. After that, it would no longer be crossdressing.

And overall, testing the game with LGBTQ testers is a great idea! As it ensures that a game is LGBTQ+ friendly :)

Uhm. That is like saying lgbtq testers should playtest skyrim so it becomes lgbtq friendly. This is not how this is supposed to work. Those otokonoko are their own nieche. You need people liking that nieche to playtest and not random lgbtq people forcing their own view into the nieche. That is apropriation ;-)

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As a trans person, I assure you that crossdressing is, in fact, queer.  It doesn't necessarily make a person trans, but it's not straight behavior.

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As a person that likes to know what words mean, I can assure, you, queer does not include crossdressing. You got it backwards. While self identified queer people might engage in an activity they call crossdressing*, this does not make crossdressing queer .  

If you disagree, I suggest you educate the nitpickers at wikipedia. Because they define queer as   an umbrella term for people who are not heterosexual or are not cisgender. And there is not a single word about crossdressing on that page.

And the page for cross-dressing reads   The term "cross-dressing" refers to an action or a behavior, without attributing or implying any specific causes or motives for that behavior.

And if you do, that is prejudice on your part. Might wanna think about that.

Also, there is no such thing as straight or unstraight  behaviour. Every person is capable of feeling all feelings and doing all activities for fun that are usually attributed to the other gender or the other sexualities. With the trivial exceptions that are word defining.

* I am not convinced that this activity can be called crossdressing for a trans or a queer person. They want to reaffirm their felt gender, so it is not crossdressing to them. What would crossdressing for a mtf look like? Wearing male clothes again?