Butterflies Episode 1: Rudies

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FlynnTaggart5 years ago (2 edits)

So I found this while playing on the mobile version. Not sure if it's still on Ep1. Even then it's a minor problem probably.

Edit: The low FPS is probably because of the recorder I used to get this video.

~~hit me up for that free code man~~

Here's another one walk-through-the-wall moment. I think it happens every time while you get close to the wall and use "spinning" ground trick

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (2 edits)

^^ Yup, that's a, uh, "feature" of my old-slash-actually-not-so-old movement code, with a side helping of low FPS Unity shenanigans. I've changed up the code recently, but not with that bug in mind, so there's a high chance it's still in there. I'll see to it.

^ Now this is new. Hang on while I see if I can reproduce it in E1.

e: puY, still in there. Fixing.

Fix is up.

2:17:31 - I guess the game have froze when I stepped on trigger but not sure yet.

18:07 - insane grind bug, everytime I'm grinding in this place. Never happened before in betas & pilot episode.
23:55 - KS are going crazy. Happens most of the time you moving outside->underground->back to the town.

2:17:31 I don't think is a freeze, this is something to do with the menu system. When you click outside of one of the icons, all the icons get deselected and can't be navigated back to with the gamepad. It's a game-wide issue. Fix coming up.

18:07 I've just found the cause of. Fix is done.

I've redone the KS. No word on whether this'll stop happening.

Nothing is up yet. Currently trying my hand at re-baking the lightmap so you get it working properly.

FlynnTaggart5 years ago (1 edit)

For some reason you can stand on pic related.

~~yes everytime i post here i'll ask for my free version :^)~~

I'm keeping this for style. :v

Hit me up on Patreon PMs and I'll hand you a download key.

FlynnTaggart5 years ago

Drat, it seems I can't PM you on Patreon.

FlynnTaggart5 years ago (2 edits)

When you try to wallride, sometimes you go in the opposite direction. *vid kinda related*

I couldn't really capture footage of me doing that.

Edit 2: It happened to me once or twice though, i'll try to replicate it on PC

This is intentional. Wallride direction depends equally on your current velocity and the direction you're pushing towards, the latter of which can get quite fuzzy on touchscreen.

FlynnTaggart5 years ago

I see. Thanks for clearing that out.

SASHKO NAGANUMA5 years ago (4 edits)

1) Is it just me, but i can't find and clear the last graffity spot. Is it a game bug? I can proove it with my save file, but don't know the location.
2) Every time you die, the game continues from the last save. And you can save in any moment from the missions menu. What the point in this annoying manual saving? Why not to do an automatic saving, everybody gonna save everytime after every mission. Or it's just a reference to early 6gen console games, when there was no automatic saving?

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

Saving causes a little lag, which is why I used a menu to hide it. I figured I could have some punishment for dying, but I could easily add autosaving upon death.

For the graffiti spot, I think I'll add a spot counter in the missions menu to see if it's a bug.

Still I can't find the last spot. I'll try to begin a new savefile later.

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

If you've cleared all missions and the game tells you you've got all clear points, then it's officially a bug.

I know what vids 1 and 2 are. Unity has trouble putting sprites this close to meshes. I'm using sprites because I couldn't get proper decals to work. Vid 3 is to do with the boundary collision mesh, I'll see what I can do about that. Vids 4 and 5 are just waypoint goofiness and should be much easier to fix.

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

Update. Turned out 1 and and 2 were something else entirely: render order hijinks. The bug is fixed.

Fix is up.

CONTROL PROBLEMS
-Just today I realised that you can't skip cutscenes on keyboard.

-Is it just me, I guess right analog deadzones' settings are too sensitive. Game camera slowly goes to the left itself whyle the stick in center. Of course my xbox 360 is 5 years old, maybe the analog sticks began to work less accurately. I tested several different games and none of them have the same issue unlike butterflies.

-I prefer to play this game on keyboard(it's more comfortable to repeatedly hit acceleration button on keyboard than controller's trigger), everytime when I need to turn the camera, I need to switch back to gamepad. Mouse camera is too slow, uncomfortable and almost unplayable.

Unplayable is the word. This mouse business is a longstanding bug. It works fine in the editor and I have less than no idea what causes it. The rest I'll take care of.

One more thing I forgot to ask. Is there any oportunity to do camera controls on keyboard?

Can be done, but might get counter-intuitive.

Looks like the camera now is broken. It badly follows the player.

I don't know is this a bugs:

-Music player is playing music not so random. Some tracks playing too oftenly(meaveena for example).

-The car boss is too easy to beat, can't damage you at all.

-first time you die after starting a new game, after you hit "retry" button, the game starts from the beginning, not from the last time you saved. In order to make game save working, you need to go to the main menu, then load the campaign.

Second and third are definitely bugs. Will look into it.

Oh man, I forgot this one. As you can see on the video, I can't find the last graffity spot. Maybe it's so hardly hidden and I just can't find it? If not, so that's a definitely the bug!

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

It's possible I made a spot invisible or inaccessible without noticing. I'll see.

e: Just checked all the spots. They're all accessible. There's a possibility you fell victim to a rare bug where a level 1 graffiti doesn't register as done.

I've completed the game 2 two times.

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

I found the bug. There are in fact 126 graffiti spots, one is counted twice because it's made up of two linked spots. I know exactly which one it is, too.

e: Fix is up.

Once again I forgot about the obvious bug. You can't navigate missions on keyboard/mouse. I mean scrolling the missions list

I don't know if this a bug or you just cut out the "thinking hat" from the game? And what about -無- -MU- and Stark Raving Raving? Are they abandoned, still in development or we're gonna get it later in ep2?

Can't skip this message on keyboard/mouse.
Intro and ending cutscenes plays music even if you turn the volume off in the main menu.

All of those are intentional, save for the ending bug. I did cut all three songs, I couldn't make SRR sound good and didn't feel the other two fit.

Forgot to put it in the changelog, but the ending bug is fixed.

You can no longer select zinnie and jae in adventure mode. Is that a bug or it's desined that way?

Definitely a bug. Looking into it.

0:16:37 first I start a mission and sprayed some cameras. When my health bar went low, I decided to replay it next time.
0:18:16 you can't respray already defeated cameras. The one and only fix is to restart level.

0:36:45 KS can't walk properly in this area, invisible barriers

Everytime I want to change the character in adventure mode, I go to the main menu -> then back to the game. I spawning near the "observatory's" door and switch the character. Why not to make character switching by ingame menu. You just choosing the character and spawns at the beginning of the level.

Intro and Ending cutscenes music bug. If you push "back(right alt)(music skip button)" you can listen 2 tracks at the same time.

Le CapitaineDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

I'm keeping the character switch point system (JSRF represent), but everything else should be fixed.

Tutorial's dashing info do not represent actual controls. Plus, you need to add info about how to skip tracks and volume options.
-after switching character mouse cursor pops up on the center of screen.

nedotykomka5 years ago

Having some issues with the Linux build :(

* in the tutorial there's a lot of screen tearing and the player character texture is nearly jet black all over. Things look more like they're supposed to in adventure mode

* nothing happens when I try to go into tag mode by pressing LT on my xbox360 pad

* at 2560x1080 fullscreen the bottom of the screen looks cut off, like it's vertically centering a picture with normal aspect ratio instead of adjusting the AR appropriately

hopefully these are easy to fix! The world needs more JSR!

Unfortunately I haven't got a powerful enough Linux machine to test on, but I'll have the opportunity on Tuesday via my local library. The graphical glitch is the most worrying; the other twoI think I know the causes of. I don't know how up-to-date that is, but I remember bindings being different for the 360 controller across platforms; I seem to remember the x86 executable brings up a settings window where you can rebind. The cutting off isn't *intentional* per se, but I have the interface scale at the halfway point between horizontal and vertical; very wide resolutions will come with these sorts of issues.

nedotykomka5 years ago

I haven't had a ton of time to sit down with the game but I did get that remapped and could tag stuff, and running windowed at a standard aspect ratio gets around the cutoff. Thanks!

Calvallac5 years ago (1 edit)

The inputs for the x axis on the right analog stick on my controller are inverted, and I can't seem to do anything to change it.

[Edit (I've just recognized that what I said in the original post doesn't really help the developers)]

Please implement either a way to set up the analog sticks' axis on a plus and minus side (like you can do with keyboard bindings), or an option to invert individual analog sticks' axis in the options menu to fix this problem.

Thank you for your attention.

Believe it or not, that's intentional, mirroring older 3D platformers where you controlled the camera instead of the view. But yes, I think I'll add the option to invert camera axes sometime down the line, since this isn't the first time I'm getting that feedback.

smosher3 years ago

Having a number of issues with controller (DS4 rev2, wired, Win10.)

- I need to *hold* Pause (Options) to keep the menu open, as soon as I let go it disappears.
- Deadzone on left stick is nonexistent/too small. Didn't spot a way to change it.
- Can't seem to control my skating. I often get stuck veering to the left or right. Generally only when I have some speed, but it's also nearly impossible to exit the halfpipe in the tutorial. I can regain a little bit of control by rotating the camera to the direction I want to face. No air control either.
- The boost + turn combination doesn't affect the camera, but rather does both boost and turn.
- I haven't observed tapping back to do anything. Drift, was it? Nothing like that is happening.

It feels like there's something weird going on with the polling. Camera control seems fine, but everything else is showing problems. That could be a clue, or a red herring. IIRC this controller is running at a higher rate than usual, so that could be the cause. I don't have problems with any other games though.

One thing I noticed was letting the left stick centre when changing direction seemed to help a bit. Not enough to make it playable, but I wonder... if it's only seeing changes that correspond in a change from centre, that could account for the behaviour. Weird that the camera doesn't have these issues though, unless it's being handled differently?

Le CapitaineDeveloper3 years ago

Yo. This new input system will probably be the death of me.

I know for sure I kind of removed explicit DualShock support. I say kind of because in the editor, my XB1 controller was recognised as both XInput and generic at the same time, leading to incorrect behaviour, so I removed explicit references to XInput and DualShock assuming the same would happen for the latter. I'll have to get it all checked out in the newer versions of Unity where the input system is in its stable release.

I also made a mistake in the tutorial, I absentmindedly wrote "Dash + Trick" when it's in fact Dash + Tag to recenter the camera (which should correspond to L2+R2).

smosher3 years ago

Oh, yeah I can see how that could cause the issues I'm seeing. I really don't envy you for having the task of debugging support for all these different input devices.

Iron Pro3 years ago

Dualshock 4 issues

I've tried using ds4windows to play with a dualshock, but nothing works

If I don't use ds4windows none of my inputs are registered

If I map the controls to a 360 controller there are all sorts of issues:

I keep moving forward without pressing anything

I steer to the right and cannot turn to the left

Up on the right analouge stick pauses

The camera doesn't move properly (I don't know the exact problem but the right analouge stick wouldn't move the camera, and something else turned the camera horizontally)

If I map the controls to the key bindings everything works except the camera which spins in a circle (any buttons that are unused are unmapped so I don't know what could be moving the camera)

doinurmop3 years ago (1 edit)

Have you tried "Hide DS4 Controller" in the settings menu?
If you enable that, and have it set to be detected as a 360 controller in the "other" section of the profile, generally it should be detected as a normal xbox controller and work. (I'm using Ryochans build of DS4 btw).

Other than that, is steam open and taking control of the PS4 controller? (In big pictures controller settings menu)

And have you tried X360CE?

Iron Pro3 years ago(+1)

thanks. It's working with 360 mapping, IDK why it only picked up ds4 inputs if the dualshock was mapped to something else and would still pick up the inputs I mapped the ds4 to as well

I'm getting a segfault for some reason? I'm using the Linux version, for reference.

Thanks. Does that happen at launch (does the window open)? Could you tell me your distro also?

Window does not open; distro is OpenSUSE?

Thanks. I didn't find anything about Unity games segfaulting on OpenSUSE, so it's probably on the game and possibly related to Vulkan. Apparently you can still force OpenGL in standalone Unity games from the terminal with the --force-opengl parameter, I'd like you to give that a try. I'd appreciate if you could also give me the terminal output.

Literally all I get is
"Loading in SingleInstance mode
Segmentation fault (core dumped)"

So uh, nothing helpful.

Found something. It might be related to single-instance mode. Gonna uncheck force single-instance, rebuild, upload and notify you.

New build is up.

Uh, nope it's still crashing. And all I'm getting is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)".

It's embarrassingly late of me to ask, but what's your setup? I looked it up and some AMD cards might have trouble with Vulkan on some distros. Do you run other Vulkan apps? If not, and if you can grab the Vulkan sample cube utility (vkcube), I'd like you to try that and report back. If this isn't Vulkan, I'm honestly out of ideas.

Boogtoons2 years ago

It just crashes after a few minutes every time I open it, both episode 1 and 2.

smokingpenguin2 years ago

Could you tell me which platform you're running?

Boogtoons2 years ago

So sorry it took this long to reply! I'm on windows 11.

smokingpenguin2 years ago (1 edit)

I started the game trhought he itch launcer, which i launch through steam to allow ps4 controller input in all itch games.
For some reason all input are mapped to the right annalog stick. Gently tapping it in any dirrection causes all sort of things to happen on repeat. The pause menu rappidly opens and closes, the camera swings aroud, the character performs all kind of moves in rappid succesion.

Turning on old controls, allows me to control the camera with the left annalog stick. But not much else.

Le CapitaineDeveloper2 years ago (1 edit)

Yeah, that's a launcher on top of a launcher which might cause issues. I think Unity supports PS4 controllers natively, so I'd like you to try running the game directly.

That does work. Thank you.

Creme-Meister2 years ago (1 edit)

I legit can't connect a Bluetooth pro switch controller without it freaking out and pressing the jump button non-stop lol

I'm assuming you're connecting the controller before you run the game (doing it while running can get wonky, apparently).

Unity is weird with bluetooth controllers on PC and I know Nintendo ones seem to need a special wrapper to do anything with. If you're on Windows, there's x360ce, a utility that translates everything into Xbox 360 input which should get you more consistent results.

Creme-Meister2 years ago

I was using my Macbook actually! I tried connecting it both before and during the game and it still did the spammy jump thing. It's not that big of a deal tho cuz I'm just fine using keyboard, I just thought I'd say something about it lol.

Sorry about that, I'm actually unable to test Mac builds. I did hear that Apple stuff uses an exclusive Bluetooth standard but that might just be on iPhones.

Creme-Meister2 years ago

Got stuck in freefall on the right side of the rail that comes down into the city

i can't get the game to open, i tried turning off my antivirus and rebooting my computer and that didn't work, what should I do? (im on windows 10 trying to open the windows version)

Le CapitaineDeveloper1 year ago

Could you try re-extracting the zip to a clean folder? Do you get any error messages? Thanks.

i tried that but it didn't work, i didn't get any error messages, i just double click on the .exe and nothing happens. (btw sorry for taking so long to respond i kinda forgot about this because i was distracted by other things)

Le CapitaineDeveloper1 year ago (1 edit)

Does your PC support Vulkan? It should launch in D3D or OpenGL mode if not, but I guess there could be edge cases where Vulkan is there, but not functioning properly.

well it turns out i just needed to update my graphics drivers, it's running now 👍