Post by GMRin in Surviving Magic Academy as a Demon Lord - Demo comments

Surviving Magic Academy as a Demon Lord - Demo » Comments

Viewing post in Surviving Magic Academy as a Demon Lord - Demo comments

To be honest, I’ve already been pushed out of the top 10 on the leaderboard, ahaha. There are just too many variables for me to account for all of them. Calmness stacking? Haste potion? Maybe some leisure nodes are just too efficient?

The biggest source of score multiplier would be 'sparing a hero'. I can see how second place hitting around 55k points is possible by doing that, but 600k? I have no idea.

Storing player actions would let me verify runs, but that would require a fairly large amount of backend storage. Unless something is blatantly obvious like reaching integer limit, I can’t really prove it...

Reverie Requiem16 days ago (2 edits)

Can you repeat the immortality bonus? Someone with no life could easily savescum a screaming mandrake 10 times (hours of refreshing the page, loam).

GMRin16 days ago

It's repeatable, but it's astronomically unlikely...

0.6% for each Screaming Mandrake, then I believe, 5% for the immortality.

Reverie Requiem16 days ago (1 edit)

It wouldn't even take a day if you're really determined. It really is just refreshing the page each time you don't get one, with the caveat it's still going to be hell.

GMRin16 days ago

I could see people doing that if I was Mr.Beast handing out free cash for playing the game lol. But I don't think that's the case here.

If I have to guess, it's probably 1) very obscure sequence of actions. 2) some kind of game speed manipulation to extend the hunger/rest bars.

Piuscor8 days ago (1 edit)

What is the math for every point granting stat? I think I could do all the math for you to see what they did.

Also even rarer, you can get both mandrake and screaming mandrake at once, so that would be a slight stat nudge too.

GMRin8 days ago

It's just 1 point per basic stat. Calmness, Vitality, Manipulation is 0.1, 2, 10.

Then there are multipliers: +10% for each unique Status, +5% for each unique Resource, +2% per Skill level, +1% per point of Virtue. +50% for each Hero defeated. Then divided by 10 at the end.

A lucky screaming mandrake would only give like 20k points on its own, but with multipliers it can go pretty high.

Piuscor8 days ago (1 edit)

Yeah, what I am currently seeing is.... It's like 9999 vitality for one screaming? then assume they repeat the save every time for at least 9, one left for selling. you get practically 90000 points there.

I would recommend checking if the percentage points are multiplicative? Either way, I did a virtue less run, and only ~3 screaming drakes cheese. Based on the scores, I can confirm my theory. The players with high score likely cheesed their drakes, went virtue for both heroes, and an early foxified. Followed by getting arcanophobia at the very end of the run to multiple all magic by 4x. They could have also gotten more mandrakes via fox den or idling with the "harem" (silly idea, equal opportunity harem, recruit both heroes to manor

GMRin8 days ago

Multipliers from the same source stack additively, while multipliers from different sources stack multiplicatively.

The 600k score is more than a week old at this point. At the time, there was no alchemy and only one hero available. Cheesing for 9 screaming mandrakes seems absurd to me. That's like (0.06 x 0.05)^9 (probably a little less rare since the correct calculation would use a binomial distribution?) Even 3 screaming mandrakes is already super rare, having all those 3 trigger +9999 vitality is just so astronomically unlikely... unless I made a mistake and accidentally set the chance to something like 95%. (Yeah, there will be a recruitable hero in the future.)

Piuscor8 days ago (1 edit)

I've been doing tests. If you're willing to wait it's feasible to get 6-7 in three hours if you wait and refresh. I am VERY certain that is what the guy's score came from because I had 130k without the first guy giving the 500 virtue. ( and 130k approximately 5x is 650k, without doing the grind. So yes, I can very much confirm that whoever did the the 600k score very likely just spent a long time retrying a save point every few minutes.

Truthfully, I could keep going, get all 10, grab everything and send proof. But I admit to being worried a new update will come out before I can send picture proof this is what the guy did.

View more in thread

itch.io

Viewing post in Surviving Magic Academy as a Demon Lord - Demo comments