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Multipliers from the same source stack additively, while multipliers from different sources stack multiplicatively.

The 600k score is more than a week old at this point. At the time, there was no alchemy and only one hero available. Cheesing for 9 screaming mandrakes seems absurd to me. That's like (0.06 x 0.05)^9 (probably a little less rare since the correct calculation would use a binomial distribution?) Even 3 screaming mandrakes is already super rare, having all those 3 trigger +9999 vitality is just so astronomically unlikely... unless I made a mistake and accidentally set the chance to something like 95%. (Yeah, there will be a recruitable hero in the future.)

Piuscor5 days ago (1 edit)

I've been doing tests. If you're willing to wait it's feasible to get 6-7 in three hours if you wait and refresh. I am VERY certain that is what the guy's score came from because I had 130k without the first guy giving the 500 virtue. ( and 130k approximately 5x is 650k, without doing the grind. So yes, I can very much confirm that whoever did the the 600k score very likely just spent a long time retrying a save point every few minutes.

Truthfully, I could keep going, get all 10, grab everything and send proof. But I admit to being worried a new update will come out before I can send picture proof this is what the guy did.

GMRin5 days ago

If that’s the case, then there must be some quirks in the random number generator, because getting 6–7 screaming mandrakes shouldn’t be feasible with a stated 0.6% chance. Even 6–7 normal mandrakes would only be around a 0.55% chance. I think having 1 screaming mandrake triggering +9999 vitality (0.03% chance) then getting 500 virtue combined with a good run should already be enough.

Piuscor5 days ago (1 edit)

If you are certain, I do know what the guy may have did however. I am still trying to test. In summary, your auto-save just saves every 60 seconds. And you can save when you have a second or less on mandrake. Then you just reload the page until you get a screaming mandrake.

Honestly, I'd recommend removing the chance based nodes regardless if you want more legit runs on the board. Because even if the top guy did not use it, someone eventually will. (Heck I was testing random based nodes and calculating the points percentage today before I discovered that glitch, because of the small controversy over how it happened in first place.)

GMRin5 days ago

That's a plausible explanation. It's possible to manually save between each step, so you could technically spend a really long time hitting 10 0.6% chance. However, I probably won’t balance around this strategy, because it’s only possible on the web version, where saves aren’t triggered automatically on exit.

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