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For Administrators: How to Solve the NSFW Problem: An Idea.

A topic by 63bit Games created 40 days ago Views: 1,187 Replies: 10
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Sorry for my English - it's not my native language.

I, like many other developers, suffered because of the blocking of games with NSFW content. And here's what I came up with.

As far as I understand, the attack on itch was from payment systems like Visa and Mastercard, because their rules prohibit them from making payments for NSFW content. But this is easy to get around. Here's the solution:

1. Each user account on itch should receive a virtual wallet for "itch tokens". For simplicity, we will assume that one "itch token" is equivalent to one cent. The prices of all products should be displayed in "itch tokens" only now.

2. The user can buy as many "itch tokens" from itch as he wants, they will go to the user's virtual wallet. From the position of the payment systems Visa and Mastercard, this is a sale of tokens, not a product, i.e. it does not violate the rules of Visa and Mastercard.

3. Purchasing content is simply a transfer of "itch tokens" from the buyer's wallet to the seller's wallet. This is an internal transaction of tokens, which are neither securities nor money, i.e. this action also does not violate anything.

4. Any user can sell the tokens in their wallet back to itch (withdraw) at any time. Like purchasing tokens, this operation is not related to any content and does not violate Visa and Mastercard rules.

I am not a US citizen and do not understand the laws of this country well, but if the main reason for the blocking was the requirement not to use Visa and Mastercard to pay for "questionable" content, then from a legal point of view, the algorithm described above solves this problem.

What do you think?

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PS.

A big thank you to everyone who continues to buy my games and to those who help me. Your purchases are very important to me.

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Another possible solution can be to delete mastercard/visa support (at least for nsfw games) and implement national payment process alternatives (in europe there is MyBank that gog already implemented... also Satispay is used a lot in Italy but an account is possible in all Europe).

It would not be easy, but it should be possible and getting away from mastercard/visa control should help a lot in the long run.

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In fact, using national payment systems will lead to the loss of a huge number of potential buyers. I do not think that people will spend time and effort to open separate accounts just to buy NSFW games.

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If people are mad about support for payment systems being removed because the payment providers are being homophobic. then fuck those people. They shouldn't be in our space anyways.

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people would gladly open accounts for buying nsfw, here in the USA but for many people thats difficult  

The digital money age has improved nothing but intentionally inject  problematic non cooperative policies to cling to their tride and true methods of tying up peoples money making interest on it  

  The cooperation between platforms is just as much deception as it was in the 90,s if not worse, so they back bully tactics making it to be  a privilage to occasionally access your own money under the strict policies of thes organized crime corporations. Why do we need any banks at all, the money is fake weather its paper or  digital credit or clams or unicorn farts its a game with no physical value so what is a banks perpose, if theres no gold no silver less and less need for cash but suddenly the aggressive push for convenience always works against people when they know nothing but abuse from a system thats been abusing the world population for 300 years. 
 As far as laws in our circus de o usa the guys with leverage get their way and laws are writen to close-doors for the population and create freeways for the privileged people who generally dont care about time taken by banks because they wont be denied by anyone nor will they be asked to physically travel to a bank to get belittled and bullied inside the crime scenes walls. When your running out of logical reasons to exist as a network of racketeers you put the pressure onn and distract everyone with more assaults and punishing them by inflating the money right out of their accounts in a backhanded  100% illeagal heist of billions of dollars  a day sometimes; 

State government inject intentional fuckups to food stamp programs of a certain percentage every month witch randomly pick victims who spend up to several days or weeks fixing it with even more intentionsl fail obsticles then pro rate their accounts for the lost days and that is lets say 3% of recipients of 1 million total fucked up for acweek so take the 50 off they would loose 30000 people x 50 bucks is what 1,500,000/vash every month not paid but considered as needed all the same nowadd 50 more services banks can insert fail points and delays, then when everyones at the mercy of the system bam they can abuse everyone however they want and no law will stop money   
 But lets ask the question that really matters

Why the fuck do credit catd co care what your buying? They have zero morals to speak of then come and spit on people for staying home and not being criminals thats a-hard one because profit justifies every other action including  war and drug trafficking so how is there profit in fucking all these people, 

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well.. for MyBank in Europe there is no account to open for example because it works with a lot of european banks directly so you can just use it directly. I think that's the way, a bank transfer or a national payment process that support that automatically.

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That's a good idea. I understand that Japan's DLSITE adopts a similar system (creators can receive their sales revenue in points). However, I'm not sure if this can fully protect creators. It is possible to trace which game the coins originated from. If it's discovered that the coins came from an NSFW game, which is prohibited by payment processors, there's a high chance that cashing them out later could become difficult. Holding a large amount of coins that cannot be converted to cash wouldn't be very helpful for creators, in my opinion.

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First: the payment system is not interested in anything that is not directly related to a specific transaction (further use of tokens sold by the site). Do not forget that the initial initiative to block came not from the payment systems, but from some crazy feminists from Australia, i.e. payment systems are also victims, they just got hit earlier and gave in under pressure. Therefore, it is unlikely that payment systems will show an active interest in the "further life" of tokens.

Second: I do not think that payment systems will want to spend time and money on investigations regarding the spending of purchased tokens and I seriously doubt that they even have the legal right to conduct such investigations.

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I agree! I think if we have to purchase itch points with a card the system will tell them it's just itch points. plus you have to put in the card number and stuff that already holds your personal info. When it comes to cashing out, it should just be the transfer of itch points and not what the product is.

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Honestly, I think this is a GREAT idea! It'd a bit of a roundabout way, but that might be a good temporary solution if things do start taking a nasty turn. Which, is sadly how a lot of these cases typically go before they get better...

It's ridiculous that these companies think they can control the money we earn to such an extent... And the payment companies are trying to use the "think of the CHILDREN" pearl clutchers as an excuse. On the plus side, this may help shatter their monopoly on payment methods and we'll see an increase in competition... 

Regardless, I hope a good solution can be made. These game developers should be allowed to get paid for their work and we, the consumers, should have the right to buy them.