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Walkthrough? *Spoilers*

A topic by BoopBoop30 created Jan 20, 2021 Views: 11,577 Replies: 56
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So despite the game being  released  a couple of days ago. I believe I have found the route with the good ending. Just simply be as nice as possible to Jon, Evandar, Sorren, and Tommy and  be hesitant during the porno scenes . But I have noooooo idea who is behind the murders. Any help would be great.

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I'm not sure how to do spoiler tags on here, so warning for spoilers.

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Ok...hopefully that is good enough. As a big hint, I would say think about who has a motive to kill. Who has power in MAN-ticore, and also who would have had a reason to kill Timmy?

If you're still struggling, then the answer is that the killers are Soren, Jon, John, Hunter, and Abzi, I don't know if there's a super obvious way to figure it out, but I just thought about the reactions to the different people. Soren was super apathetic to Timmy dying, and he also held a grudge because he felt Timmy got past him to Tad. Soren is also hinted at to be the most powerful person at MAN-ticore and he's the heir of the company. Jon and John are kind of obvious... I mean they give death glares to anyone who challenges their position and they're also violent. Hunter is tricky, but you can get scenes with him where he basically reveals he has a survival of the fittest mentality. He only cares about strength. And Abzi not only has the most to lose when rising stars appear, but there's also some hints here and there about him being very brutal (not to mention that creepy painting in his house).

After you get past that hurdle, you'll also face a series of puzzles. If you need hints or answers, then here's some help. For the first one, it's an algebra problem, using substitution. Treat the symbols, like x, y's, and z's. The ending amount is 154.5. The next one, I would focus on the riddle - the answer is ONE. And the last one, the hints mention Greek gods. It's an eight letter word with no numbers. Also the plaque says "only through him shall you find release." if you use the letters given, then it will lead you to Thanatos, the god of death.

This will lead you to ending four, the "beautiful" ending. I'm assuming it's the true ending, but I'm still trying to unlock the other endings, so I can't say for sure.

sooooo 145.5 didnt work with the first passcode. And i tried working it out myself but I am very rusty with algebra 

Probably was a typo, its 154.5.

Yes, sorry about that. I fixed it.

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Ending 1 should be the true ending. I got ending 1 somehow, but couldn't get the "beautiful ending" lol. Is it related to Soren?

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I chose to go to lunch with Soren every time, used insight on the cats conversation and little prince conversation, basically chose Soren as my favorite. I was also reluctant in any of the filming scenes, not sure if that makes a difference.

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How do I get all 8 endings?

Anyone has luck regarding the Gallery?

Posted a few things I got. Hope it helps.

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Most gallery items I've gotten from having to spend Insight during a conversation. I'm not sure how I made them pop up.
(In order of first row across 1-6 and second row across 7-12)

  1. There's a gallery item in Tad's office (somewhere above the chair, between the bent lights. I clicked sporadically so I don't have a pin point, but I think it's more near the left light.)
  2. Choosing the insight during the conversation with Sorren about Dog/Cat person. (appears every time? 2 insight)
  3. Accepting Timmy's gift (appears every time? 2 insight)
  4. Top left area nearer the edge of the screen in the darkness of the Timmy's Apartment search.
  5. *See below
  6. Thanks to BoopBoop30: This is received through Violent Ending (ending #6)
  7. *See below
  8. If you manage to get to the Date with *spoiler - answer in a later post by Boopboop30* after the Awards show, you get a new inspection scene. Check the grooves in the wall to the right of the roses. (This is the best gallery item I've found so far as far as XXX goes.)
  9. *See below
  10. Completing Bittersweat End (#2) (bugged/not receivable as far as we can tell)
  11. Completing Beautiful End (#4). (explained in later post, and further explained in earlier posts)
  12. Completing True End (#1) (bugged/not receivable as far as we can tell)

*These are 5 7 and 9, but I'm not sure what order. The hints disappear when you get the picture. (reply with the hints if you have them for these spots, and I'll try to place them with that info)

  1. Getting the insight option to choose Hunter as your "favorite person so far" when talking to familiar voice. (Will show you need 3 insight when available) (I think this is #7)
  2. Going to the bar with the Johns getting the choosing a third drink (costs 4 insight, only shows up when available) (I think this is #9)
  3. Lunch with Abzi and Tad (after being forced to film with the Johns) where Tad is impressed with your work and you choose either Chuck (Insight 3) when it's available (I think this is #5)

Hey #6 is actually tied The Violent End #6, I described the way the best i could to get to that point  on another post but im not even sure thats the full path.

So there's actually one more way to get insight.  So if you refuse Tad completely, are nice to chuck each time  you see him, calling him sweet during his lunch,  calling evandar and  inviting him to the party, and  if you are reluctant during the porn scenes each time; after the party you get a chance to go on a date with Abzi. If you select the bedroom option you get another investigation segment.

Letter, Watch, and necklace for the full 3 insight 

but not very useful since the game ends very shortly after.

Also this path give the the Violent end  #6.

Thanks. If that path goes further, it might open up gallery item #8. It sounds like a reference to some hidden part of his house.

I haven't been able to get the Abzi date to trigger. I've done everything you said, but I feel like there's a missing component that I'm not getting.

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Different ways to GET Insight

Search the Scene Insight:

  • Your Apartment: Choose the Wallet, Weed Card, and DVD (for 3)
  • Tad's Office: Choose the Polaroid, Email, and Naming document (for 3)
    • there's also 1 insight in the bottom of the left most light in. Click this before you click the 5 items.
  • Timmy's Apartment: The tattoo (pepper), earring, broken star pendant (for 3)

In the wild:

  • Peek at Sorren's Book
  • Go to lunch with Chuck instead of Jon or Sorren and John and call him Sweet when prompted
  • In Roofied "hallucination" choose the top choice when talking to River
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So there's actually one more way to get insight.  So if you refuse Tad completely, are nice to chuck each time  you see him, calling him sweet during his lunch,  calling evandar and  inviting him to the party, and  if you are reluctant during the porn scenes each time; after the party you get a chance to go on a date with Abzi. If you select the bedroom option you get another investigation segment.

Letter, Watch, and necklace for the full 3 insight 

but not very useful since the game ends very shortly after.

Also this path give the the Violent end  #6.

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Gallery path from this gives #3 and refusing the date gives #2 (though #2 can happen quite a few ways outside of this too.)

Worth noting that this approach only worked for me when I also had low purity. It's possible these specific options aren't what triggers this route, it may simply be very low purity plus calling Evander.

I get the red star end every single time. Any chance anyone knows what the major, "game changing" choices are? I just want to see the other endings.

TBH, it almost feels entirely random. I know it's not, but the difference is so small, I have trouble pinpointing it myself. My best advice is play around with who you go to lunch with. Not sure how much it changes, though.

what i noticed it was who you call during when you see starface outside of your room what triggers post starface. calling soren will block you and calling ev will give you options.

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I've gotten passed it while calling Soren, and I've gotten past it while calling Evander. Got different endings.

SN: Beautiful ending and Dead End are 2 different numbered endings, but they are just the "good" and bad version of the same path.
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Dead end is accusing the incorrect killers or giving up, and beautiful is getting the correct killers.

ow really? for me that was the thing that changed it everytime must be something else then 

Yeah. I'm trying to recreate the time I got calling Soren to work. I don't remember exactly what I did. It did cause a bunch of cat eyes to pop up when I called him before the award show though, so I'll know when it happens. I think that's how I got ending 4 and 8.

To anyone has gotten ending #1, I have a few questions: Did you call Soren or Evander, I'm assuming you made it to and survived the awards show, did you get any options at the work meeting the next day from any characters, and do you remember anything you did before the awards show?

Evander. for True Ending. I think calling Soren is part of getting the Beautiful Ending.

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Called Evander. You definitely need to have some sort of a bond with him. Also asked him out to lunch, at the part where the lunch person recommends getting something to defend yourself. Asked him to be date for the dinner. Other than that, focused on befriending Soren.


But i just cant seem to get anything but the True Ending, Dead End, Starface End

And I'm stuck with Bittersweet, Gutless, and Violent. I've tried it a bunch of different ways and a lot of choices don't really matter. I think the main points are being very nice and always choosing Jon or Chuck (doesn't mean you always have to go to lunch with chuck, though), at lunch with Soren and Hunter, choosing reason to celebrate, calling Evander, doesn't matter if you invite him or not (I stopped inviting him because it slows down speed test runs), you and Timmy aren't friends, gossip about him with Soren and Abzi, and refuse his gift. I also go to Port & Pier for the second lunch and Shakey's with Chuck on the 3rd. If this doesn't help, and I post the step by step in a Google Doc or something.

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I have decided to take a different approach to figuring out the endings, by instead snooping around the game files and see what triggers what.

Good luck with that:)

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Ill be posting my findings here, when ive gathered them. Have already come across several significant variables which affect things

After a LOT of testing, I've found that a LOT of decisions we think are important don't matter.

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Alright, I figured it out.  So the game has 3 major variables: Purity, Evander's heart, and Soren's heart. But mainly just Purity.

Both Evander's and Soren's heart variable are determined by who you call when you see the figure outside the window.

Now as for Purity, you start with a score of 5. 

Being lewd, rude, violent or such will decrease points, while being hesitant, polite,  "kind" and such increases it. E.g. complimenting Jon's outfit will increase it, while complimenting John's outfit will decrease it.  I can write more precise decisions later in the evening.


Now, as for endings, here's what i found for the variables:

Ending 1: Purity over 10           TRUE END

Ending 2: Purity under 10, evanderheart true             BITTERSWEET END

Ending 3: Purity under 5, choose gallery         GUTLESS END

Ending 4: Purity over 10, sorensheart true      BEAUTIFUL END

Ending 5:  Evanderheart false or purity under 10             STARFACE END

Ending 6: Purity under 5, choose bedroom              VIOLENT END

Ending 7: Purity under 10 and evanderheart false            RETIRED END

Ending 8: E.g. Pick wrong killer            DEAD END


I havent tested these out through the game yet, but ending 7 seems tricky, because you have to survive starhead but also Not meet the requirements to survive him later on, but Before the "facetime".. The idea being that you run away after the facetime.. 

Will keep combing through the code later but am in a hurry right now :D

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This makes SO much sense. I now get why it seems like choices stopped mattering. Because I kept staying under 5 purity. lol

Also, I bet the talk with Soren while getting dressed is the signal of where your purity is. Only time I've gotten beautiful ending, that scene was different. (edit: I think I just proved this in my game)

And Thanks!

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Yeah none of the things throughout the main days are "specific", you aint building any actual "character relationships". Some interactions simply increase, others decrease your score.

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To add to that, you can set all these variables with a console command. So if someone  is tired of trying again and again, it's probably possible to just cheat.

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Did you figure it out for #7? I'm still struggling to get it. Too much counting not knowing what was exactly what (lol), and what exactly does Evanderfalse mean as apposed to Evander/SorenTrue.

Havent yet figured out #7. I think ill need to make a list of All the dialogues that matter to the variables, and then somehow from those deduce the right solution :D

Evanderheart false in the code meant that you do Not call Evander when you see the figure. (So, call Soren)

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Here is every single choice in the game that affects the outcome. The rest dont do "anything" on the bigger scale as far as i noticed. Also note that i wrote the lunch dates separately, as they were in a different file. Seems Soren aint the central character to woo afterall, since he barely affects purity.

Purity system:

 

Workdays:

On the phone: “I’m a friend of Rivers” +1 purity            //    “I’m Skyye Manning’s brother”   -1 purity

To Ted: “Everyone matters” +1 purity

To Ted: “Play along” -1 purity //  “Refuse”  +1 purity

To Ted (only after previous “Play along”): “Play along” -1 purity

Meeting John and Jon, preferring: “John” -1 purity

To Hunter: “I can look past it. Job’s a job.” +1 purity

On the phone, favorite person: “Tad” -1 purity // “Timmy” +1 purity

In the clinic: “River’s results, actually” +1 purity

Hunter and Timmy, about being friends:  “We’re not.” -1 purity // “We’re getting there slowly” +1 purity

To Evander: “Ask for his number” +1 purity // “Rush out” -1 purity

Soren and Abzi lunch: “Lie” -1 purity

Soren and Abzi gossip: “Partake in gossip”  -3 purity

Soren outside smoking: “Check” +1 purity

Fluffing Chuck: “Maybe it wont be that bad” -1 purity

Figure outside*: “Call Evander” +1 purity      (also determines the variable “Evander’s heart and Soren’s heart depending on who you call, check other post)

Police: “I hate the police” -1 purity

A co-worker was: “Murdered” +1 purity

Pornscene: “Give them a show” -1 purity

Inviting Evander (only with Evander’s heart):  “Invite Evander” +1 purity // “Don’t invite Evander” -1 purity

Liking a party outfit: “Abzi” -1 purity // “John” -1 purity // “Jon” +1 purity

Soren’s decorations: “It’s certainly innovative” +1 purity

Jon’s breakdown: “No, I don’t.” +1 purity

 

The “facetime” part is weird.. If your purity is 10 or above, you get the cliff facetime. If its under 10, and you have Evander’s heart (called him), you get the Bittersweet End.

“Else”, you get the Retired end #7.

But this is weird, because you need to be either at or over 10 purity or have Evander’s heart to survive Starface, yet this part comes very shortly after him, so theres no time to affect the variables anymore..

 

 

 

 

Lunch scenes:

“What do you think of Abzi, Adam?”         Lunch with Soren and John

“He’s hot”  -1 purity

“He’s a gracious host” +1 purity

“Don’t like him” nothing

 

“I find the idea...” (of holding a gun)   Lunch with Evander

“Comforting” nothing

“Exciting” -1 purity

“Scary” +1 purity

 

“Nothing Timmy did came from strength or professionalism.”   Lunch with Hunter

“Agree” nothing

“Disagree” -1 purity

Hunter congratulating about Adam’s first scene (Soren and Hunter lunch)

“It’s a reason to celebrate” -1 purity

“Dont know yet” nothing

“It’s not” +1 purity

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My theory is the Starface ending is decided by the call with Soren (since that seems to be the scene that let's you know if you are pure enough (extra cat eyes/sound)), and you have to get it under 10 during the awards diner/show for the 7th ending.

The extra cat eyes according to the code indicate that your purity is 10 or above. If its under, you dont see the extra ones.

The survival or death outcome is determined after starface raises his hammer in the dialogue. Thats when it checks the purity/heart variables... Hence why its weird.

Yeah. I've tried everything, down to exactly 10 purity. I can't get anything other than Dead End. BTW Do you have the 10th and or 12th gallery item? If so, do you remember how. I'm assuming one is ending 7 (you'll never be truly happy) and I thought 12 (blood is thicker than water) was True End, but I didn't get anything for it.

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Should we try to just cheat to get it and see what happens?

Which I did. You get to the point when the call is made, he threatens you without kidnapping Evander, you run out of town. Evander, Soren and Chuck try to contact you but you ignore them and resign to Tad via email. No unlocks

You are right of course that it definitely looks bugged. There are no purity decisions between Starface meeting and after party meeting so you can move your Purity below 10 and enable Retired without cheating.

Did you ever figure out how to get ending 7? 

Ending 5:  Evanderheart false or purity under 10             STARFACE END

Ending 7: evanderheart false and Purity under 10            RETIRED END

they don't have logical distinctions because ending 5 will always take precedence it seems.

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Meanwhile im disappointed that theres no "happy" ending where you join the dark side so to speak.. Sigh, main character's always so goodygoody no matter if he is pure or not...

Honestly there was a perfectly good point in the game where it should imo have branched out in three paths. You could have gone with Chuck, gone to Abzi's party or continued with Evander. The Evander path could have continued as is (he could die or you could escape together), the Chuck path could either have you leave Manticore with Chuck or just replace Chuck with Evander in the kidnapping part and then there could be an all out evil route (heck perhaps even one where Abzi considers having you replace Soren).

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I legit thought Adam was gonna replace Jon, since they considered Jon "impure" as an Exclusive, and Adam had that star quality... But meh... Totally could have used a "One of Us" path too.

Yeah could have been killing Jon as your initiation.

Yeah. I agree. I think the Violent path should've been the "One of Us" path or something instead, where you do go up to the the bedroom instead of finding stuff and leaving, and eventually join them in their cult. Since it wasn't, I was kinda hoping that's what Retired path is, as in you join them, and you stay with the studio through retiring from porn.

Also, um...how do you "snoop around the game files""? lol

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Check online on how to activate the developer console on renpy and there are tools to decompile the files (and very easily decompile the images if that is all you are after in some games)

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Yeah, extracted the rpa files and read through the code

still don't get the ridded ones

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do we actually have a route with soren?? 

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When I pick the correct killer, I always got the dead end. Why is that