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There's an individual who thinks it's funny to comment on all of my creations stating that I am a "fascist" for believing rape fantasy games like No Mercy have no place in Steam. To that I say, if you are in support of such and against the right of private companies to police what is allowed on their platforms as they see fit, I don't want you consuming my content anyway?

This isn't censorship. It's a privately owned website. They can remove it for any reason, including not liking the color of your shirt. On uploading to a website, you have no rights.

Highly likely. People in this thread comparing it to GTA are laughable in my opinion, also. No Mercy was made specifically for the sexual gratification of the viewer, and anyone with a basic understanding of how porn addiction works knows that it's a bad idea to cater to the more-extreme side of things, because then they're a step away from their addiction worsening and, while unlikely, them actually needing to commit violent sexual acts to real people, even if not flat-out rape. GTA, needless to say, isn't a game made for sexual gratification. Sure, it's NSFW, but NSFW in the sense that the language and violence aren't workplace-appropriate, and nothing more. Violence in GTA has societal, monetary, story-related, and social consequences. The story heavily involves these consequences. The point of GTA is to tell a story. Sure, there's a non-story mode, but it ultimately is to tell a story and has consequences for bad actions. It doesn't glorify the actions shown. No Mercy existed only for shock value and for sexual gratification, the two are in no way comparable morally. A game about a rape has the right to exist and can even be highly praised (see: Mouthwashing), but is still subject to criticism if improperly created. No Mercy did not approach rape as the horrible act it was. It approached it as power-tripping fap material.  No Mercy wasn't made in good faith and deserves every bit of flack it gets and deserves to be banned- games uploaded on privately owned websites are not free speech- sspecially with how we live in a society that blames victims for being raped. Thank you for your respectful reply, and I agree.

cute! It seems to glitch when I try to open the planner though

You know who does have the right to censor that fiction? A site owned by a private company who gets to dictate what is and isn't allowed on that site. Freedom of speech, also, doesn't mean you can say or do whatever the fuck you want. It protects speech against the government, not hate speech, threats, or condoning horrific acts just because it's fiction. The type of content IS relevant because you are feeding a sexual desire you KNOW is immoral and taboo, and the second that the game stops being enough to cause pleasure, people may not commit the act themselves, but are more likely to seek out porn of people who actually did the act and recorded doing it, which also is very immoral to consume. God forbid people tell you that some rape porn game is morally repulsive. I'm going to be honest, I don't care if it makes you do it in real life, I still think you're a horrible fucking person if you're jerking it to the idea of raping someone. And let's be honest, you as a person don't care if people joke about murder or rape, which is why you're talking right now. At least with murder victims people don't say "well it's their fault for having their door unlocked" or "they secretly wanted it!" And violent games aren't made with the intention of being gooner content or to fulfill a fantasy. People don't play violent games because they have fantasies of being violent. People play games like No Mercy because they have rape fantasies and think it's hot. Which is morally fucking reprehensible that you'd be sexually appealed to the idea of doing that to someone,  fantasizing of taking away ever bit of autonomy they have and scarring them for life for your fucking wank with the excuse of "it's just fiction!" Sure the media itself isn't the worst thing ever, but whoever is jerking to it is a horrible person and nothing you say will change my mind on that. I've tried to give reasons but no reason is valid to you because you are too worried about having your immoral rape fap material.

We live in a society where rape is normalized. We blame the victim. We don't blame murder victims. We say "they wanted it" when it's rape. Games like GTA shouldn't be banned because violence is part of a narrative with context, choices, and social criticism. On the other hand, titles like the banned No Mercy feature gratuitous violence, without plot or purpose, often glorifying suffering, especially against women. The difference lies in how violence is used: meaningfully or just for shock value.

edit: the dude calling me a fascist for not supporting rape fantasy games is also literally harassing me outside of this post. just fyi. But I'm the "insane" one for having an opinion. also, me liking the concept of vampires has nothing to do with whether I'm okay with rape fantasy games? and seduction =/= rape, but my vamp game doesn't involve that...lol? also accusing me of literally not being human for having vampire in my name is wild, are you on fucking drugs? The concept of vampires isn't explicitly around rape, and even in vamp media that involves it, it isn't portrayed as desirable or a good thing, they're LITERALLY MONSTERS. THEY ARE THE OG BAD GUYS LMAO. My vamp game involves explicit consent, the vampires themselves are just PLOT important. It's a comedy visual novel, it's not comparable to your rape porn where you rape your own mother.

Because this game glorified and romanticized the topic. It portrayed it as a good thing, a fantasy, rather than as the immoral act it is. It was made PURELY for the player's sexual gratification.

I feel you're honestly not arguing in good faith because you yourself enjoy these fantasies and feel called out for furthering this desire. If you can't bring yourself to actually listen without regurgitating the same bullshit point over and over, there's no point in anyone wasting their breath on you. Have the day you deserve.

The main issue honestly is that murder isn't seen as normal in society. You don't usually joke about murder. SA, specifically the SA of women, is normalized to the point we as a society ask "well, what was she wearing?" or "she was drunk, what did she expect to happen?" Walk up to a random guy on the street, crack a joke about  spiking women's drinks or about how it's "their" fault they get assaulted, seven out of ten times, you'll get a laugh. The other two, you may get a look but he still won't tell you that you're wrong for it. He won't speak up. He just won't laugh. Additionally, why are we defending a rape fantasy game anwyay? Matter of fact, why are we defending rape as a sexual fantasy? Fantasy or no it is morally reprehensible to want to do that in any capacity, regardless of whether or not you actually do it. People will dog on me for this, but if you fantasize about raping people, yes I think you're either a sex/porn addict or a horrible fucking person and should see a psychiatrist either way. 

I don't know how some people can't wrap their head around the fact if you find a game about rape sexually gratifying, that you are genuinely fucked in the head and, yes, more likely to commit the act than someone who doesn't.

Bold of you to assume they used AI for a summary they wrote themself when you can't even use basic grammar or have proper spelling.

The issue with guns isn't that it's "the gun's fault" it's that it's way too easy for batshit insane people who want to commit gun violence to get their hands on a gun. Background checks for gun ownership are pretty much nonexistent.

Not all speech is protected under US law, especially not in spaces owned by private companies where they can remove whatever they like. The point of freedom of speech is freedom of speech against the government. Nothing more.

Yes, they won't abstain from that addiction, which is exactly why we...shouldn't encourage it? There's direct correlation in psychology between people engaging in these hardcore rape fantasy/fetish content things and actually committing the act later down the line, which is why this can't be compared to violent games, because there is no correlation there. People don't commit violence in games because they want to do it in real life. People *do* engage with rape content in games *because* they want to do it in real life but *can't* without consequences.

Why would you want to play a rape fantasy game? Why would you want to make a rape fantasy game?

I got this on steam forever ago, I'm still in love with this game

So sad I found it now and the plushie failed

This is so cute! I was looking for inspo for rmmv games to see what all I can do with the program, and this was an adorably fun experience.

Awwww

You're welcome! <3

Personally I don't want to use AI because it's built off the backs of non-consenting artists and therefore unethical.

sorry for the really REALLY LATE LMAO reply but thank you <3

How about: it literally steals our art and breaks multiple copyright laws

Yeah! Honestly I think it's fine to use AI for pose references or just general ideas & concepts to get you started on a referenced piece but it's irritating when people try to publish ai work as... an artist's work. And again there are literally people posting ai assets on here and expecting money in exchange for them, bro if I wanted your ai piece that bad I'd literally generate it myself and make tiny tweaks in GIMP or Photoshop, it'd take me barely any time just like it took you barely any. There's no way these people are fr like "these ai generated images took me 60 hours please pay me" and deadass serious about it. Half the AI shit I saw while looking is priced higher than actual artist's work, too. If you're gonna post AI assets at least make them free.

The character in my pfp (assuming you mean them?) rn is meant to have a gothic feel, they're a character in a 1920s murder mystery project I'll likely never finish which is also what I'm looking for backgrounds for. I might take your advice on that, I feel those would work well paired with the sprite artwork.

And artists tracing for non-educational methods, posting that art (even if used to learn), and/or selling that art is bad, therefore not an excuse for AI art. Have you seen the shit tracers get in art communities?? Just look at Pink Cat, who got thrown out of a convention opportunity- an actual business opportunity- because of her tracing. AI works by literally mashing different images together so the style & reference arguments fall short. AI is unethical and steals from artists. And, ngl, I have played around with AI until I got something I liked before for fun! ...It does NOT take near as much work as actual art does and the effort is NOT comparable IMO, esp with the years artists take to learn how to draw/paint/etc.

I'm closed at the moment unfortunately, my job has been leaving me too exhausted to work on much of anything else. I can let you know when I reopen? And thank you!!! :D

I'm trying to find vn backgrounds and literally 99% of what pops up is ai-generated. No, I'm not fucking paying you for something you had a bot generate via a database stolen from artists without the proper copyright or consent. Like can I please for the love of god just find backgrounds a PERSON actually DREW instead of someone who claims to be an artist bc they typed a sentence into Midjourney??? Idk. Just wanted to rant.  Wish they were easier to filter out, bc I am not paying someone for assets they didn't even make. I dont care if they added a filter to it in photoshop. Bc, again, ai is unethical as shit and half the time arguably very fucking ugly.

yeah tbh I get that point now. and personally I dislike yuri and yaoi, the'yre meant to be fetishizing of wlw and mlm relationships for straight people of the opposite sex, which I find gross and dehumanizing

I get that! I have no problem with people wanting to search for that in specific, tag exclusion should exist by now, but my point is just that a straight tag initself wasnt necessary since straight content is so prominent you can just scroll past. However I get that one may be necessary now due to a lack of tag exclusion if thats what youre specifically looking for

I do agree the tagging system on itch isnt great. A lot of people here just seem driven by a dislike of lgbtq+ people so I got a bit emotional with responses. Also whether or not Im a "furry" is irrelevant, and this pfp is a character in a project Im working on. With each persoanl project I hyperfixate on I change my pfp to the character I like writing about the most. 

That makes sense. 

Im not a troll, Im just a queer person who thinks it really isnt that big of a deal to see queer people in games but whatever. or straight people for that matter. Also while I understand that a sexuality isnt a fetish and shouldnt be fetishized???

My main issue is ppl getting upset over sfw lgbtq+ content, guess i didnt realize nsfw was the main focus. Thats a different conversation entirely. I responded the way I did bc the BEGINNING of the thread was VERY homophobic, "The truth is they are super liberal and they don't want people filtering out their 19 different forms of gay tags. They won't say it, but it's true."

I have read up on it with an ubiased mindset and that's why I'm against crypto. I used to be for it before I realized how harmful it is to our environment and unstable of a currency. The worth flucuates too much to be reliable and to make crypto our main is to basically doom the Earth (granted capitalism is already destroying it slowly)

You cannot disagree with a fact dude

I never said logic cant be used in the conversation. You're literally assuming that I'm against logical arguments because I'm queer. Anyways, all I said was lgbtq+ content isn't that difficult to avoid. Just look at games more carefully dude

I see your point but nothing can "look" straight or gay without relying on heavy stereotypes and it is not our responsibility to warn you for gay people EXISTING in a game. NSFW should be warned for accordingly but I don't feel we should have to make everything stereotypically gay just so you don't have to deal with seeing two lesbians since that upsets you so much. But anyways I understand not wanting 2 see nsfw but seeing a gay game you thought might be straight bc its not a walking stereotype really isn't that big of a deal and if that upsets you you are the problem

I guess, but its still not really necessary

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I personally like tyranobuilder! I like making visual novels with added in RPG elements, being a mix of the two genres, and while it takes a bit of work to squeeze into the engine it works quite nicely