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I was busy too, so I don't mind! And thanks for feedback!
I like the idea to work on top of tags, adding some sort of mechanics! I have a lot of ideas on this, also because tags can be a sort of path players can follow to unlock particular powers or other tags too! For example manipulate a particular npc with a strong tag, let them power up and have a more crazy, but physical powerful npc.
And again on city-building side you are absolutely right! I think that with some sort of city map player will have more control on what is going on in the city, where to expand a controlled npc influence and so on. If I can generalize this concept, I can see a possible pattern here: corrupt an npc, expand his influence in the city, or guild, or in another dimension (religion, economic, arcane, etc..) and get bonus for this powerful npc.
A downside of this approach is that player, as you said, should keep attention on a particular npc, where he invested time and resources: right now a crazy enough npc can die in a fight and player could potentially lose a log for this.. If I'm the player I will be a little pissed about this :(
For the ui report, thanks, I will investigate! I have a lot of bugs to work on it, but I need to focus on complete core mechanics first! I know you can perfectly understand me on this side!
Thanks again Archifenix for sharing your thoughts! I really appreciate your words and sorry for being late :D
About rebellions right now what I need is to find a way to let them become part of gameplay, not something a player, like you can hate. I liek the way you bypassed the problem! This could be a sort of emergent gameplay? I'm not sure anyone besides me and you could appreciate this, but who knows!
The freeze problem is something strange, never happened to me: the game after loading will be on memory (it's a small game, btw) so it's really strange! Let me know if you experienced this kind of problem again!
First of all, thank you for feedback! I want to stress everyone with interest in this kind of project to provide feedback like you, it's very important for me in order to keep project running and also for motivation!
Like you said, this is a prototype, so only basic gameplay elements are present and I have to keep calm and don't add too much stuff. I've said in bay12 forum thread, my goal for this project is to create a working gameplay with base mechanics, test them with players interested in genre and after that expand it, maybe in a more visually compelling tecnology.
After "living cities" update, there is a lot going on on npc side: they can gather resources, get followers, solve quests and this happens every turn, on every city. Almost every players reported that this simulation (more a board game right now) produce a lot of informations to follow. This is a choice I've made to create a "living world" where npc acts and follows their directions and if a player is a god, how much he can affect the world? Right now only indirectly: you can "force" a npc to follow your "calling" and search for lost knowledge or manipulate him to work over relationship. Maybe you miss the relationship manipulation, on actor panel: you can see currently selected npc's relationship with other city npcs and which kind of relation they had, like for example "HATE" (the only one right now, btw).
Balance like you notice is also a good point right now, if you were able to wind without manipulation 2 times, I suspect you will able to win every time now.! Seriously, this will depend on how to organize player actions: I have some ideas, but I like also to read some suggestions too. Regarding rebellions, I have to work on it to make less common event, but depends on food, like you notice.
Investigation are based on clues: every action player mades in a city create small clues in that city. From time to time, there is a little chance for every npc to follow this clues and rise global awarness level (until defeat). Is a simple system I've designed to keep play into a loop (do action -> create clues -> uncover knolwedge before global awarness go too much high), but is not working fully because player is not fully aware on how much clues are left behind, where and which npcs are more interested in investigation or not. For example, is a nice idea for a "corrupted" npc (I mean focus + calling ) to start investigation ?
Thanks for try my prototype, really important for me! And about TWS, you are right, at least you can play this prototype and provide feedback: I strongly believe in this kind of approach an encourage you to "spread the word" about Infiltration to any people you think could be interested, my hope is not to create a replacement to TWS, but instead an interesting game (with working demo!) with clear mechanics and gameplay balanced enough to be fun. For me fun in this kind of games is to force the world to follow your rules and actions, using manipulations and so on, but also to give players this "level of power" they need to understand to what is going on and from your report, you get the whole idea, so thanks for report!
Thanks for comments! Tutorial is something to add when prototype will be completed and about mess of information thrown to the player I'm working on it!
Nice spot for stats bug, thanks!
About the investigation should be also the event, I will check more thanks!
Thanks BobbyTwoHands for your feedback!
It's really important for me get feedback and from something like you that faced similar development issues, well.. it's cool!
0) I think you miss the "you win screen", well.. it's a prototype after all :D
1) Thanks for kind words! I've put some effort in build a sort of "tabletop game" behind the scenes and I believe that this kind of games will benefit from this "living simulation". I've read a book about gameplay design few months ago and found inspiring one of the key points: if you give to players some points to use as "hooks" for imaginations, their mind (your mind too!) will try to fill the gaps and the game will be more fun too!
2) you are absolutely right. This is something that I have to take in considerations for next releases. I want to mix it with "tag system" so special tags or traits will gave to particular NPCs more resistance (or not) to your powers. I have the feeling that also slow down the simulation behind a little bit will give player time to observe NPCs movements, what do you think about this point ?
3) thanks for feedback about this! I need for sure improve "simulation feedback" to players, so colour-coded messages are a good point too
4) yes, it will be on next release! Quests will be a key point "soon" (tm) when all key elements wil be in place
5) nice catch! I never considered before to change city's description, thanks!
Thanks again for feedback, feel free to add any ideas!
Feel free to share your thoughts and feedback on this prototype.
If you want to help, please take a little bit of time and read README file included, try to use ancient power and obtain victory. I really need to get feedback on how do you play and ideas on how to improve this prototype. Thanks!
Permadeath, randomly generated (too much for my taste), turn based, resource management with exploration and discovery!
Solid entry, with no bugs, perfect theme and graphics. Music and sfx could be improved, but a really good entry!
Well done son far, some rough angles to tune for me :
- music: base music is repetitive (and boring, out of the context for a game of destruction, violence and blood) and action music is fine
- without a proper automap casual player could get lost ?
- some monsters attack patterns are too easy to avoid, like for example the bouncing energy attack
- when an enemy die on top of a ladder, because there is no body physic animation, it's someway strage to see an horizontal body simply.. go down
- enemies bouncing one top of the other (a bug I suppose)
Hope to see some update also on the demo here on itch !
Hi again, any news? In these days I'm playing Stellaris and I've found really interesting the Factions handling:
I think a gameplay around placing key agents in a faction and manipulate it to grow in power in the kingdom is really cool! Hope some news soon!
Hi again, have you take a look to some Europa Universalis 4 diplomacy mechanics?
I think manipulating the attitude should be a good starting point for the design ?
Also take a look to Estates ( factions ):
I've tried your experiment and almost lost into it, because there are a lot of options and things to do! Don't be diverted by my report, because I found really hard to understand what your interface do and then of course the game can let me do.
As said before, I hope you can share some design ideas to get feedback before doing it ?
About TWS, there are a lot information in the wiki, maybe can help/inspire you https://thatwhichsleeps.gamepedia.com/That_Which_Sleeps_Wiki
Thanks for quick answer!
From an outside perspective, seems that you were too much focusing in adding more and more content ( I'm referring to SBTT ). My advice is to focus on the core mechanics and when that one is really good and you have a lot of feedback from players, move to other mechanics .
Do you have UI to show to potential players? I mean, me :D You could get a lot of feedback without code anything, I think is right approach!
Btw, good work, I'm following you because I believe in this kind of games and with the right mix of gameplay elements could be really interesting !
Like I said before, I like your approach in general and also this new update is really "dense", maybe too much ? You should try to explain and test every mechanics separately, so you can learn if they are fun or not!
For example I'm not sure if the player can keep track of all circles and relationships in order to manipulate them, I mean I can see some sort of "information overloading " ?
One of my problems with SBTT was the interface and all the stuff happening together. I suggest you to take a look to Europa Universalis IV from Paradox, or Crusader Kings 2, where player Is able to follow a lot of things together because of the real time pause, of course, but also because of the interface.
My suggestion here is to work a lot on the UX and UI, maybe with some prototypes, to find the better way player can interact with such complex world you have in mind!
just my 2 cents: for me is better to have, one for week/month/whatever, a video where you explain the new mechanics, features and so on, so when you will launch kickstarter/greenlight, there is a lot of material and you can get more exposure even with some youtubers for a review, even if obsolete! I mean you can build your audience and followers in that way, the most "direct" let's say!