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Thank you for explaining in depth, I understand the issue more now!!

I think I found a fix that would require a lot less manual finagling and address the problem where even if you were to make the self-voicing more fluid, the tooltip text would just get repeated when you stop hovering

Here's the new choice screen code for you to test with the fix applied: https://pastebin.com/XLpDb3Rq

What this does is use the alt style property in the screen to automatically combine the choice text and tooltip text to be read out the way you want for all choice options - choice text first and then tooltip text. I also disabled the repetition of the tooltip text being read out when you stop hovering

Let me know if this does the trick and if you run into any issues with it! If it works, I will push this as an official update

Hi, so sorry I didn't see this until now! To be honest I never tried out the self-voicing functionality in Ren'Py myself so this issue never occurred to me. That does sound cumbersome to have to do in your script! I will look into this more and then get back to you, hopefully I can find a solution

Sorry for the maybe dumb question; is the hover text an issue in default Ren'Py choice menus too, or only when you use this add-on? And when you say hover text do you mean the tooltip, or just any regular choice text on hover?

I updated the code and added an extra feature where you can write in a different tooltip message for when a choice is disabled vs. not (which I thought might be handy for this use case), which is up now!

The main difference from my pastebin code is just that the styles for disabled choice buttons are now consolidated with the other styles rather than handled in the screen.

I will keep testing more as well and then upload a version that includes this since I do think it should be a feature! Thanks for pointing it out

Hi! That's actually a good question, it would be nice if it worked for disabled choices too.

I just did some tests and whenever a button has the sensitive False property,  the Ren'Py tooltip will not display. I think this is because insensitive in Ren'Py affects more than just the styling, making it so the user can't interact with the screen element at all (so it can't run an action, display a tooltip, etc) .

The easiest fix I can think of is to circumvent the sensitive button property and instead make it look disabled (and make the action do nothing) if the player fails the check. In my test project it looks the same as an insensitive button but does display the tooltip.

Replace the textbutton part of the screen code with this

You may want to play around with the disabled button styling based on your set up and whether you're using a "gui/button/choice_insensitive_background.png"

There might be a more elegant solution, but I'm not aware of it. Let me know if this works for you!

So glad this was helpful!!

Thanks and no worries on the late reply! That was definitely the issue on the test project (duh lol).  Upon changing that, the tooltip is indeed coming up there.

After investigating further on my main project, I think the issue was that I was using the config.say_menu_text_filter for something else, which was overriding the one used for the tooltip. After commenting that out and using the correct cases for the words, it works there as well :)

this game is so cool

I tried putting this file in my game, and couldn't get the tooltip to work or come up at all. Thinking it might be something in my game that's incompatible, I put the file in a clean test project, and still, nothing.

This time I didn't try changing anything at all in the file itself (like adding new words), and added this dialogue line into the script: 

e "I'm an elf."

Am I doing something wrong in my implementation? If not, I'm curious if others can replicate this issue.

hyperlink_functions is coming up as a style property of say_dialogue when I use the inspector, but there is no button on the word.

I'm using the Prerelease of Ren'Py 8.4, which could potentially make a difference?

I figured it out, it's actually pretty simple. There's just one line you need to add and one you need to change in the existing code. Let me know if this works for you!

for i in visible_items:
    $ color = i.kwargs.get("color", None)
    $ hover = i.kwargs.get("hover", None)
    $ tooltip_text = i.kwargs.get("tooltip_text", None) # Optional
    ## Add this line
    $ caption = "{s}" + i.caption + "{/s}"
    ## Modify this line
    textbutton (caption if not i.kwargs.get("sensitive", True) else i.caption):
        action i.action
        sensitive i.kwargs.get("sensitive", True)
        ...

This is incredible! Thank you for sharing.

I figured it was early to tell with the newest version of Ren'Py. Thank you!

Hi, no expectation of you solving this as it could easily have to do with other things in my set-up!

Upon updating to 8.4.0.25060301+nightly, I noticed that the outlines around my sprites are appearing more jagged. I should note that my sprites are scaled down by half currently. I added  define config.mipmap = True, but it didn't seem to have an effect on the outlines.

Were there any changes in the update that would affect the shader? Or is it likely something else in my game that's causing it?

Also just commenting this for others that might want to use shaders with this, as it took me a bit to figure out --

if is_talking: # Apply the talking transformation
    trans.shader = "outline"
else:          # Apply the not-talking transformation
    trans.shader = None

Likely you will need to make a copy of the shader you're using with uniform variables, instead of them being set through a transform. This means you're stuck with one preset (unless you make it a variable potentially?), but it works like a charm!