Once an attribute level-up becomes available, the game won't let you gain any more love points for the character until you've completed the task. It's basically a prerequisite to increase their love points cap. You can still interact with them but you'll be notified of the pending action before you can advance with that character.
yeah... See that's the thing. Some sex acts kinda turn my stomach. The rough sex stuff and the bondage. But they're with the characters I love. There's no avoiding them. I don't want Theo to be made into a sub. I don't wanna tie up Elisa. See what I'm saying? But I do wanna finish the game and get their ending. Or at least the ending of the game. I'd be totally satisfied just letting Theo be on top as long as she didn't insult me the whole time. And I hope Elisa has plenty of scenes without having to be tied up. Each time it was time confess to a girl I picked girlfriend route & not friends with benefits or sex slave.
I believe the characters were intentionally written to be into certain fetishes, apart from being closet masochists. I understand your sentiment, but I'm afraid the game was created with a particular target audience in mind. SPOILER: At some point in the story, the characters themselves address their circumstances, perhaps the developers' way of letting you know that this isn't everyone's cup of tea. After all, this is a game where you can create a harem that involves two sisters and their mom.
I guess I missed that memo. I had no idea EVERY love interest was a closet masochist. Even if it was most of them I don't buy it with Theo. Smh that breaks my heart. I literally just thought masochist was Irene and her butt stuff obsession. But apparently this boils down to the idea that strong women of business secretly wanna be "conquered and used and dominated." I don't know what to do now. I have every character except one to level 40 love and most of them are 6 or 8 on harem accepting. Should I just quit?
In their rooms when they put red dots now by the submission and sex skill and intimacy, etc skill levels. I thought if I picked gf lover routes with each character I could avoid making each girl a sub. But it seems mandatory now just to advance the plot. As for the rationale with the harem I believe the mindset came from the women getting to know each other so well they became a family and thus envy and hate of sharing the main character would die out. But are you saying they each eventually tell a story of why they're into being dominated and degrading themselves?
Rachel might be an exception, being the most innocent girl among the seven, only capping at 50 love points and the fewest triggers for harem acceptance scenes.
To be honest I have no idea if there is an actual possibility of a wholesome relationship with any of the women since I chose the harem route, but I also went to create multiple saves so I can pick the other choices for the purpose of unlocking gallery scenes. Each of them eventually revealed certain kinks, but that could be a result of much earlier choices in my playthrough. My only suggestion is to keep an open mind and just let their stories play out.
I thought both Sen and Rachel were innocent. A opposed to Irene who only ACTS innocent.
I guess I'm stuck now. I can't unsee what I saw and pretend the cast isn't what they are. I'm just gonna beat it once and call it a day. I'll pick as few options as I can that sicken me and see what I get.
Thanks anyway.
Sen was also a character who I perceived as innocent and conservative. I thought it was cute when she started obsessing over the shirt, until the scene that followed right after. I knew then that she will spiral into one of the wildest character developments in the game, especially after the introduction of her mom in the story.
Maybe the writer believes in the "lady in the street, freak in the sheets" idea. That the game would be better if everyone was a pervert deep down. But it kinda boils down to the only thing setting them apart being their gimmicks. Sen lust for smells, Rachel sheltered understanding of sex and interaction, Vera tsundere hoping to be roughed up, Elisa and bondage, Theo and teasing, Irene and pet and ass obsessions, and Uno descending I to being a exhibitionist porn star. I got Sen's ending last night. It seems like ultimately each girl will just come to rely on the main character at the end and become addicted to being them him. It feels like no matter what, dialogue may change but basically even if you don't pick sex partner option and instead pick girlfriend or lover. They are really just always gonna be treated like sex slave but with a usually nicer guy at the helm of it all. He even put a camera in the bathroom on his house. Why? He can see the girls anytime he wants. Smh I seriously would rather just have the main character give up on a harem and be devoted to just one. At this point.
but the camera was still in the bathroom recording even when Theo and Vera go in and Uno mocks him saying she might tell on him to Vera.
If the ultimate harem with all the girls in the harem ending is them in love, that's fine. I don't mind them all having sex and getting along. What I don't want is degrading themselves, reducing themselves to just sex slaves and acting like animals. I want class. Romance. And yeah sex. But in a tasteful meaningful way. The MC hops back forth being super nice and caring and a gentleman and then a horny pervert bully. Elisa even said this out loud and mused that he was the ultimate lady-killer giving women all they want and best of both worlds. I was blown away by how uncanny it seems to be that no one in the game can have sex without soon after becoming a pet or a slave to the main character.
Who was your favorite girlfriend in the game? Theo and Elisa are still my favs despite all I've seen now.
Yeah, the dialogue is funny or romantic and sweet at times. But it's those times when the MC, Agang, does things that you have no control or and talks like a stalker or rapist that kill the game for me. For example, he is by now is a relationship with Vera. Even if she is into kinky stuff at home, why come to her job and try to expose her breasts? I picked not to do that. And I'm glad there was no demand that I had to that time. But too often there is no option to not do something. And something they even unrealistically make the girls try to bait you or tease you into doing dumb stuff at work or why tutoring. Are we to believe all of them are so thirsty for sex that they throw their careers away. I just don't see that happening with Theo or Vera. Yet once Theo is in a bad situation and covered in cum before a worker walks in and the main character just runs away and she doesn't even clean it up. She just sits there and says it's spilled milk. They even make it clean the worker knows she's lying or thinks she threw up on herself. The point is, there was no option to take the fall and stay to clean her up. You childishly do the deed in her office then she tells you to leave only to get caught anyway? And this is your wife to be? I wanted to stay, and at least fully clean her up or go out and stall the worker coming in. I wanted to save her dignity. But the game wants Theo and all others to just have the illusion of self respect and pride and it's up to the MC to "break them" and turn them into perverts that do as he says. I wish I had known that before playing the game.
Well this is the plot for nearly all erotic game but most of them gives you the option to act otherwise at least. But even then it can be made to work this harem thing without "breaking in" the girls and without them acting like sex slut bitches.
I also didn't like that Theo actually never told the MC what happened in school, that they lost their virginity to each other when he was drunk af in high school. And kept telling the MC that a jerk did it in school, but it was him. At least after their marriage (in the good Theo ending) she should have told him.
Well there was a lot of stuff that didn't make sense. I'm pointing these things out cuz i'm sad because this game would have been so much better with just a little different writing.
In game they say over and over that a chapter 2 segment explains their past in high school. She only doesn't tell him just to likely get people to play thru that chapter.
Ive seen games where you don't break the girls and make them dependent on you. But they weren't really harem games. You can have a harem but it wasn't the focus. Like in Tales from the Void. Or in Once in a Lifetime. Lots of girls like you in both, but they never become shameless sex slaves that live to serve you the second no one is around.