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but the camera was still in the bathroom recording even when Theo and Vera go in and Uno mocks him saying she might tell on him to Vera.

If the ultimate harem with all the girls in the harem ending is them in love, that's fine. I don't mind them all having sex and getting along. What I don't want is degrading themselves, reducing themselves to just sex slaves and acting like animals. I want class. Romance. And yeah sex. But in a tasteful meaningful way. The MC hops back forth being super nice and caring and a gentleman and then a horny pervert bully. Elisa even said this out loud and mused that he was the ultimate lady-killer giving women all they want and best of both worlds. I was blown away by how uncanny it seems to be that no one in the game can have sex without soon after becoming a pet or a slave to the main character.

Who was your favorite girlfriend in the game? Theo and Elisa are still my favs despite all I've seen now.

redboar3 years ago (2 edits)

Just to give you an idea:

SPOILER

The events in the ultimate harem ending occur after a three-year timeskip. For some reason, all seven women are now sharing the same body type, which means Irene and Rachel now have the voluptuous figure and G-cup breasts as Sen/Theo/Vera. The medieval torture chamber in the house is now dubbed as the "training room" and one of the scenes in there involve Rachel and Elisa both straddling on a 'wooden horse'. Meanwhile, Theo, Uno, and Vera are naked inside a prison cell with their breasts peeking out from the gaps of the jail bars. Irene and Sen, wearing only collars, are on a bed in a corner of the room waiting for their turn.

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My favorites are Sen and Theo. I think both women have the best chemistry with the MC, and their rivalry could've been interesting as an overarching plot with proper writing.

KOKAYI0053 years ago (1 edit)

Holy shit... That is not what I want.... Not at all.

How do you avoid that and still romance the girls?

Theo and Elisa are my fav because I like voluptuous classy women that are smart yet still loving. If that ending you're talking about is the "best ending", I'm gonna avoid it like the plague. How can I romance them, and not get that ending but instead just marry them or date them all?

Edit... The MC said he was a gentleman, what part of that ending is gentleman behavior? It's like he went insane with lust and power over these women. And the writer said that the cast "weren't just sluts". So what is up with that ending?

redboar3 years ago (1 edit)

You can probably skip all the harem scenes and endings by avoiding all the harem acceptance triggers (double hearts icon) as much as possible. If I'm not mistaken, the love points is a separate level-up system so you should still be able to raise your relationship with the women individually. Also, I've unlocked the rest of the gallery, and unless there were any scenes of a wholesome relationship ending that have been excluded, I'm afraid they just don't exist.

I've realized early on that it's almost impossible to fail with any woman in the game. There are only two routes to your relationship; either she becomes a sex partner or a romantic interest, with the former leading up to a harem ending. It goes to show that the MC was simply written to be likeable regardless of the choices the player makes, which is really my biggest gripe towards the game. IMO there should be choices that will lead to negative consequences otherwise you're just playing a perfect, infallible character, and there's no fun in that.

KOKAYI0053 years ago

I already have a bunch of harem accepting points for characters. If I stop here am I still safe from triggering the harem ending with all the nasty shit in it? At this point I might as well just get the ending for each individual character and call it a day.

Yeah the main character can do no wrong. They set it up that no matter how cruel you are to them the girls always become brainwashed that what he did was out of love. That they were in need to being brought outta their shell and only his selfish pervert acts could do the trick. Uno is reduced to a porn star. Senning is reduced to a ordor obsessed fan girl. And the list goes on. Imply that no one's life is complete without The MC dick and selfish sex demands.

I want sex scenes but I don't want them in the rapist fashion the come as sometimes. And the girls are written to want that roleplay. A kind gentleman who turns into an abusive jerk in bed. I don't know anyone IRL who likes that. Or at least they never said so. And I've heard some wild conversations over the years.

I just want to romance all the women and they all move in together and maybe start a giant BnB business together. Or something fun and happy like that. Why would a sex dungeon maniac MC ending be cool in the writer's eyes.

redboar3 years ago

I think the harem endings will only become available when you've reach a certain level of harem acceptance with specific characters. In my playthrough I've unlocked four harem endings, but there could be more(?)

Sen and Lady Minna
Theo, Uno and Vera [housemates harem]
Elisa, Irene and Theo [Shinyrost harem]
All seven women (everyone reached harem acceptance cap except Rachel with only Lv. 3, I can't raise it further because I still haven't encountered any more harem triggers with her)

The game will actually tell you when you're about to reach the good ending with a partner. Selecting otherwise will just open the character up for their harem endings. I would suggest creating a save whenever a choice is presented to you, frankly I have no idea what happens after you get married to just one woman.

KOKAYI0053 years ago

Okay, I'll `shoot for the ~Shinyro`st harem and `Sen & Minna endings. I already `saw the ~Sen per`sonal ending number 1. I'll ju`st neglect Rachel and Uno and I `should be `safe. And I found the `special chapter`s on the menu at the `start of the game, I guess tho`se 3 part`s are not connected to any ending`s a`s they're ju`st a DLC-like prequel to the game. BTW what i`s the love and harem level cap for the cast be`side`s Rachel? Becau`se ~Sen i`s `still going up and `she'`s at level 62 love.

redboar3 years ago

	Love	Harem
Vera	65	30
Irene	70	25
Rachel	50	[?]
Theodora	80	30
Uno	65	30
Elisa	65	25
Senning	65	25

KOKAYI0053 years ago

ok thnx I'm almost done.

I'll see the ending and play something else soon

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