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I'm running into issues with the dicier pixel font not displaying dice other than D6s. I'm currently working in Microsoft Office 2016 and I updated to the latest Dicier versions just in case. Other dicier fonts are working in terms of showing the symbols, so I know I've at least enabled the ligatures properly.

In the screenshot below I've typed the following in both Dicier Flat-Heavy and Dicier Pixel.

ANY_ON_D6

0_ON_D4

1_ON_D4

2_ON_D4

3_ON_D4

4_ON_D4

ANY_ON_D4

You can see the triangles are showing up in one but not the other even though the text is the same. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Speak the Sky2 years ago

e; Dicier Pixel has fewer features, including dice sizes—the only dice it has are 6-sided or barrel (vertical or horizontal). Check the list of missing features at the end of Chapter 4 in the User Guide for more info.

tallywinkle2 years ago

Ah, makes sense! Thanks for your reply. For the Dicier Flat-Heavy, have I done something wrong to get the "any" shading to show up on the d4? (Rather than next to it)

Speak the Sky2 years ago

The results codes use kerning to combine two separate icons (the number or wildcard and the die shape). If you have OpenType kerning active (might be in the same menu as other OT features in Word) then they'll overlap. If you don't, then they'll appear side by side. They should all be consistent, all appearing either on the dice or before them.

Aidan Bowes2 years ago

I can't find any reference to OpenType kerning in Word 2019, and no option of negative kerning (surprise!). So the numbers and dice shape are appearing separately. Cool but not correct. Any ideas? Or is it too much of a pain?

Speak the Sky2 years ago

To confirm, does the kerning option marked "Kerning for fonts" (with the font size set to the lowest possible number of points) have no effect? AFAIK most apps don't explicitly distinguish between kerning in different font formats.

Aidan Bowes2 years ago (2 edits)

So, I just posted that I thought that fixed it. And it does. A little. It fixes D6s. It doesn't seem to fix D10s or 8s. Or 4s.

It looks it applies Kerning to font size X and above, minimum is size 8. For the record, I tried increasing the size and it didn't affect the success/failure. Sorry.

(This explains why I thought I had tried it before without success, but I just didn't try all the permutations. In good news, testing has confirmed that you can apply font settings retroactively on the codes which wasn't explicit in the guidance.)

Speak the Sky2 years ago

Each set of combination codes only works up to the maximum number of sides on that die (except d6), so 6_ON_D4 (like in your screenshot) will display side-by-side instead of overlapping like 1 to 4_ON_D4. However, as long as the numbers are within what you could roll on each die, the kerning should work.

which version of Dicier are you using (the version number specifically)?
do the ANY_ON_ wildcard combinations work?
do the 0_ON_ combinations work?
which version of Word are you using, on which operating system?
do you have any other software you could test the codes in? If not, LibreOffice is free and reliable and works more-or-less how Word does, so it could provide a good comparison if there's some quirk in Word preventing certain combinations from working (I no longer have Word, so it's tricky to troubleshoot Dicier in Word myself). You'd also have to install the "otf-LibreOffice" fonts, at least temporarily.

Aidan Bowes2 years ago

0. I chose a bad example for the screenshot but I tried most dice and different numbers.

1: v5_1_3

2. I thought they had, but it seems not. Just D6 as the numbers.

3. Just D6 as before.

4. Word 2019, Win10, all updated.

5. Not at present, and TBH I think I'm going to consider this a sad write-off for now. I have spent quite a lot of spoons so far, which I don't regret, but I have limits. Hopefully having the conversation here will help others later.

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