Post by jollov in Can we please get old controls back? (v0.9)

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"Figure out which thing you try to do most and make that the press action"

Well, do help me decide then: I do a lot of collecting the first couple weeks, picking up trash and cleaning the base. Once that's over, holding becomes the main thing to do, usually. And next time I have to start a new save (eg: 0.9.0c, 0.9.1...) I'll go back to collecting being the main thing.

So... Should I be switching, never getting to enjoy the fruits of a fully developed muscle memory? Should I have to "tough it up" and suffer through the first 10-20 hours or so of the early game being R-hold heavy, when I'm already struggling settle in, for the sake of a smoother experience later on? Or should I stick to R-press being collect for the sake of an easier early game, at the cost of a more annoying rest-of-the-game experience?

Besides, far as I'm aware you can only swap press and hold for R, not E.

Basty962 days ago(+3)(-1)

man it feels like all those that defend the new controls to the death come from the discord and are screeching on how we dare to critize this dumbass change, like 90% of these are "you'll get used to it." or "it's just better trust me bro" or any variation of it.

FoxSnouts2 days ago(-4)

So much cope.

Basty962 days ago(+3)(-1)

on how much people defend these shity new controls? yes i agree

FoxSnouts2 days ago(-4)

Sounds like a skill issue if you need 10-20 hours to develop muscle memory, but if you're so terrified of changing your controls, why not just stick with picking up items being a single button press? Unless you're trying to hold multiple items at the same time, you're not going to need to make that action as fast as picking up items. And if a quarter-second delay in holding items every so often is enough to ruin the game for you, then that says a lot about you.

jollov2 days ago(+4)

Ah yes, "terrified of changing your controls", as if it wasn't what I've already settled on doing every so often when I'm faced with a collect-heavy task in the game again.

The very point I was trying to make in my reply is that things are not as clear cut as one may think from your reply to Draglorr. For one, if you are to swap press and hold, it won't necessarily be a one time thing; and two, you'll have to rebuild your muscle memory, so be judicious about when to swap.

And do try to imply whatever you may about my skill or attention span or whatever your point about a quarter second delay is, but I'm old and tired and I did not come to VotV to play a rythm game and test my timings and reaction speed every other interaction.

I believe you're already aware I've already said my piece before on why hold-based modifiers are bad, so if you do wish to discuss that in depth (and I would hope you'd be doing so in good faith) I suggest you do give this chain of comments https://itch.io/post/14684652 a full read and continue the discussion there.