itch.io

Hmm.

Basically you say, oblivious people are prone to overindulge and can fall from one compulsive behaviour like "porn addiction" to another, like being religious and preachy about it, replacing one devoted behaviour with another.

While replacing one obsession with another is a thing, I would not limit this to people with "lack of knowlege", but rather to the overindulging itself, and that's not something based on knowledge. What is based on knowlege is the ability to blindly follow doctrine, be it religious or political.

I tried to find if there is a correlation between intelligence/education and consumption of adult entertainment. Could not find something conclusive. There are hints that higher education broadens acceptance and people seek a variety of stimulus for their mind. I will even claim that the average intelligence/education of the group that plays adult video games is higher than the general average.

Anyway, to get back on topic, sexuality is just such a basic need, people would be interested in it, no matter their knowlege or lack of knowledge.

You seem to want to know what I took issue with. I will tell you.

Probably says something about the state of the world right now, don't you think?

You act as if adult entertainment is saying something about the state of the world. I would say having criminals and liars as leaders of countries says far more about the state of the world. Having freedom of choice for recreational activities is a good thing. But some people, including you, try to restrict those without good reason. And no, you being on the brink of getting an obsession and overcoming it with faith is not a good reason.

What does say something about the state of the world, is how fringe groups get to dictate what others can do, in the name of morals, social justice, and whatever excuse they bring for their cancel culture. This prominently includes religion.

But you can't use religion to argue in a secular society anyways. So if your arguments againt porn are from your faith, you have already lost the debate, before it began.

at the same time it's wrong and eventually playing NFSW games will catch up with you. 

You "preach" that playing nsfw games is "wrong". That's an unsubstanciated statement. What about peole playing genocide simulators or killing simulators (every 4x game, most shooter games)? Will that catch up to them too? Why? Why not? Why nsfw games? And why is it "wrong"? I can tell you why. Because it violates the restrictions you made for yourself with the help of faith. So, seeing others violate those restrictions looks wrong to you.

If you're reading this and about to reply angrily, wait. Keep reading. I genuinely hope you find peace. You're probably trying to fill a void that can't be filled this way. Go touch grass, meet more people and get out of your parent's basement.

If you're not a total creep (or regardless), you'll find someone to fill that void.

Creeps are people too.

That's condecending and insulting. You dish out pity. Understandable, because you think the hallmark of a fallen soul is playing nsfw games, since you yourself felt like fallen.

Damnation is not an empty threat.

That's the preachy part with religion. You basically tell people they are damned for playing nsfw games.

Porn is NOT healthy.

Such a broad statement is untrue. It only applies for certain situations. Like overindulgence.

 I'm not one of those religious nuts who go around knocking on peoples doors

Sorry for replying to that with a pun about the activity of nutting. Anyway, you really did go to a thread and offtopicly condemned the topic's subject. You called people creeps and brought religion into the thread. As a reminder, the topic was, why many people like such games. Not if those games are morally ok or healthy.

And lastly, I took issue how you made God responsibly for overcoming your problems, but not for having those problems. But that's too much theological and philosophical territory. I just do not like the religion angle, and how that makes porn bad somehow. It just does not follow. Porn is not talked about in the Bible. 

They did not talk about sexual images or sculptings or even naughty stories. And those exist for as long as humanity has expression through arts, so like some 40000 years or so. Every art has a sexualized version of it. Every. So there definitively was such things at the time the texts of the Bible were written. There can be no doubt about this. You can even still see some sexualized grafitti in some ancient ruins. Yet you do not see passages talking about it. If they would have had a problem with it, they would have said so. They did not. They deemed it not even worth mentioning.

What they did deem important was how sexuality between humans was regulated. Marriage vows, heirs, and so on. Very interesting about morals is the story of Tamar and Onan. Was Tamar condemned for acting as a prostitute? Was Judah condemned for visiting a prostitute? No. Tamar was initially condemnded because when she was prenant it would mean adultery, but she could prove that the father was within the bloodline. Something that previously was denied her by Onan. Onan's sin was not letting seed drop to the gound, but ignoring Tamar's rights and not getting her pregnant, after her husband's death. It was about heirs.

Ancient Jews did not care about things like prostituion, incest or porn or masturbation. They cared about bloodlines, rightful heirs and so on. But what was written was twisted in later centuries to mean different things. Just look at this term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan#Onanism . The perpetrator that denied a woman her right to a child and his dead brother an heir is the name giver for the "sin" of masturbation. Judging by the name, this passage is the main reason why masturbation is considered "wrong" and a "sin" and that's a huge fallacy, if you look at what actually was written and why it was considered a sin. Oh, and for context, the dead brother was smitten by God. So the situation is, that God would smite you, if you do bad. Which He did with Onan eventually. But not with Tamar, nor Judah.

While this is more an argument that prostituion is ok, it serves as an illustration how different morals were viewed at the time and how later generations would twist it for their own agenda of morals. Like condeming porn, which leads to the sin of Onan. Only ... it does not, because the sin of Onan never was masturbation.

Better to use the passages about overindulgence of things like alcohol to argue against overindulgence. There you have my agreement.

I meant to have an open discussion

I firmly beleive in respectful debate

my initial comment was a simple blessing

There's also something to be said for considering other people's feelings

There was no judgement

Really?  Let's review that first comment again, shall we?

You're probably trying to fill a void that can't be filled this way. Go touch grass, meet more people and get out of your parent's basement. Responsibility isn't something to be afraid of, it's really freeing. Maybe you don't even know it, but everyone is reliant on something and sometimes that thing is a weight dragging you down. Think about what you want from real life and go get it. If you're not a total creep (or regardless), you'll find someone to fill that void.

This is dripping with judgment and condescension directed at an entire class of people whom you do not know.  This is exactly the negative Christian stereotype that you insist is nothing like you (whilst you simultaneously stereotype others).  Then when called out on it, this is your response:

Just sharing a permanent solution for those who feel empty inside.

I guess this isn't the time or place for it. I guess that says something else about these crazy times we live in.

Oh, how humanity has fallen. I pray understanding for those reading this, and freedom from whatever you're bound to.

You started by poisoning the well to ensure that no good-faith discussion can follow, then pivoted to gaslighting and sealioning to act as if you did no such thing.

I'm not going to be replying to this thread again.

Why not?