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Really?  Let's review that first comment again, shall we?

What you can't see is the feeling that went into that comment. I practically cried writing some of these. Is empathy a bad thing? Is it wrong to try to help? I wish I'd had somebody to say to me what I'm saying to you when I needed it.

This is exactly the negative Christian stereotype that you insist is nothing like you (whilst you simultaneously stereotype others).

I'm truely sorry if you feel stereotyped. It's something I can't help since I don't know who I'm talking to. One thing I can ask is that you don't look down on me for my shortcomings. Blind anger solves nothing, and an "I'm-better-than-you" mentality is wrong no matter what what you believe in.

You started by poisoning the well to ensure that no good-faith discussion can follow, then pivoted to gaslighting and sealioning to act as if you did no such thing.

I know I'm not perfect. In fact I can be a perfect ass sometimes. The best I can do is say I'm sorry and mean it. What would you have me do to start a good-faith converstion?

Why not?

I believe that if someone disagrees with me, we should be able to do so peacefully. If peace isn't an option, I might as well leave. It's also been called shaking the dust off of your shoes. That's not a judgement I wish on anybody, but it's been that way since Jesus' time. When a city tried to stone Him and His disciples, they moved on. I've said my piece, now I'm going to move on and talk to someone who will listen. It goes against everything I believe in to force someone to think a certain way.

God grant you peace.

What would you have me do to start a good-faith converstion?

For me, that would be sound arguments.

If you bring religion into a discussion, that has several issues. One of them is bringing the fallacy of appeal to authority to the table. For sound arguments one needs to avoid fallacies and one needs true premises.

In case that helps you, I am not angry with you and I believe you had a problem and faith helped you overcome that problem. But this does not mean that everyone has the same basic problem or that the same solution would be helpful. Or that people like hearing you talk like it were so.

 And I rather would like you having strength because of faith and not because of literal things that are written in the Bible or were misquoted, reinterpreted or otherwise used for centuries to tell people lies. Learning how the story of Tamar was perverted into a tale against masturbation was very enlightening.

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