If a victim is denied empathy and objectified as a body to master, the mastery of their body becomes glorified. This is the narrative rape fiction in pornography tells. Your example does not match the narratives I am describing.
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Incest is a word to describe a rape that occurs when familial relationships are exploited for sexual abuse.
The words glory and incest do not convey the meaning for which you applied them.
The word glory has religious roots. It basically means that glowing saint's halo. So gloryfication is likening something to something holy. What you described is many things, but not gloryfication. Gloryfication is the extra step to make something good even more splendid. It is not getting praise, it is getting very great praise. Mere praise is not enough to invoke glory. It is not treating something as being better as it really is, it is treating something already splendid as even more splendid.
Incest is a neutral word in regard to consent. It specifies blood relation. Cousin marriage is incest. About 10% of all marriages world wide are incest marriages. The statistics is a bit distorted by some regions having up to 50% and other near 0%. If a blood relative commits sexual abuse, you get incest on top, but you can't use them as synonyms.
to cause to be or treat as being more splendid, excellent, etc., than would normally be considered.
to honor with praise, admiration, or worship; extol.
sexual intercourse between closely related persons.
the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden.
very great praise, honor, or distinction bestowed by common consent; renown.
adoring praise or worshipful thanksgiving.
the splendor and bliss of heaven; heaven.
a ring, circle, or surrounding radiance of light represented about the head or the whole figure of a sacred person, as Christ or a saint; a halo, nimbus, or aureole.
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That commentor blocked me, after dropping some insults.
The usage of words was and is incorrect, no matter if someone gets angry about being corrected about it. If a discussion is about "incest", but someone means "incestual rape", misunderstandings will occur. Same if something is called "glorification", but meant is "trivialization and objectification".
I hope people like that do not enjoy killing murder death games, because according to such logic that would mean their brain is rotten by all that murder gloryfication that is happening in every rpg, shooter, platformer, right down to harmless Mario games where it is ok to kill little creatures by stomping them to death. One is even awarded points and high scores for such activtiy. (Should the post be edited or deleted, there were ad hominems against basically all people that might play questionable games, because their brains got rotten by doing that.)
I am not interested of apologism for real world incest.
I was answering questions under the assumption I was talking to someone who was somehow genuinely naive. Now that is is clear that was not the case, idgaf.
Incest is practiced by actual puritanical christofascists
Why would I post some book I hate.
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I care little about such things. I believe that statements are irrelevant from who makes them. It is fallacy territory, if you give credit to an argument because of who made it. Same for discredit.
That's why using words wrong and using non arguments bothers me. I like reason and reasoning. Using words wrong makes reasoning non sensical. If handal wants to talk about how vile incest is, ok. But handal seems to think that incest means to abuse your own kids (or parents if you look at what happened in the Bible), while the rest of the world thinks that brother and sister getting it on, is incest. Also cousins marrying is incest too and rather common. One cannot have a discussion, if people talk about different things but use the same word.
But at this point, handal is just trolling and venting. Or using yet another word wrong. Did you look at that link where supposedly christian fanatics would practice incest? It is an problematic event for other reasons, neatly outlined in the article, but incest is not among those problems. It is a fathers and daughters dance event and comes from those virginity pledging crazes.
They presumed much and chose to use broad judgement, aaaand now I can't reply to them.
Unless they try to swat me, that slanderous troll is not my problem anymore.
I chose to be as civil as I could, maybe engaging was the wrong move.
Addendum: I notice they have kept editing every post. We can't shouldn't argue with someone willing to edit posts to be "correct" all the time. Engaging with them was a bad call.
On a different note: just the name of that link alone creeps me out. Really, I didn't ask about it and I didn't look.
Edit 2: corrected grammatical error
You can hover over the link. It is a wikipedia article about a so called purity ball. It is a similar thing like those purity rings and pledges. Naming that link an incest activity hints that the poster is either a troll, confused links, did not read that article, or my favorite: still does not know what incest means.
The poster seems to dislike the bible and people being fanatic about it. But also disliking people that play "questionable" adult games. All the while liking adult games. It is the usual hypocrisy. I am doing it right, but if you do it, you do it wrong. Your brain rots by playing those games, while my brain thrives.
Banning games that have incest in it, but allowing children to play games where you are awarded for killing. This is the type of idiocy this is all about and it attracts a lot of people having opinions that are not soundly reasoned, but emotional. So telling them in detail why they are wrong might make them explode and retreat in their echo chamber. But letting BS stand uncontested sets a bad example. Also on a side note, it is bad training data for the AIs, if we train them with fallaciously reasoned opinions ;-)
Thanks for sharing, would never have gone to his link but it's an interesting topic, pledges of purity and such
And as you say also- even if he's some hateful bellend who will just explode and run away back to his echo chamber preaching whatever horrid things they do.. Other people will still read this thread or these messages, and if there was someone who lightly agreed with him, hope we can sway them to a better path at least - all the other people who read but don't comment or even like matter too, should always argue intellectually honest for their sake and eyes as well as our own, no matter what bad faith actor we're arguing against
"I can forgive incest but draw the line at 'abusive' language" ass post. Feckless moderation. I want to be clear here that I was being rude to people advocating for incest in real life. Not just chuds asserting their grotesque intent to create the worst fiction possible, but incest in real life. This site deserves to get fucked, if you let pro-incest advocates run around here.
I hate NEETs I hate fandomites I hate forums debate culture I hate respectability politics.
