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No worries about forgetting to ask about crediting, honestly. I just love seeing the game-making process, and I'm glad to help you out with this.

Yeah, I think that a flat "X juice per person transformed or tiered up" would be good, rather than it draining off a sector-based juice reserve. However, making the incubators produce cores by slowly consuming juice would also be good. Perhaps there could be a stat somewhere in each sector like "X juice consumed per minute", and that would drain out of your main juice reserve, or maybe just subtract from your overall juice generation rate via reducing the amount collectible after a mission, since that seems more seamless.

Lore-wise, I was assuming the supports would be monitoring transformation progress and adjusting juice flow to where it's needed for the transformation to progress, or helping the transformees relax and focus on the hypnosis, if the transformation process works similarly to how it works in Hypnothicc, or something along those lines to make the transformation progress faster.

If you wanted to keep the "spends juice to TF faster" idea, I think it'd be good to have the sector-based juice meter be for TF only, and you could input juice into it so that TFs in that sector could use it to speed up.

inopagames78 days ago

Thanks, I’m glad.

Hmm the “juice per minute” I think I’d put it for all sectors. Kind of a mix of the both systems, but automated and not so tedious. The milking sector would have a meter or numbers which shows the total in and out, and goin on negative would eat the reserves if you have some. And if there is no reserves… Aah it’s getting too complicated again. I think I’ll just stick with the direct upgrade.

If I go with the direct upgrade I wouldn’t do the speed up, so I think the support will have both the TF speed up and produce speed up. The support lore sounds good, was thinking myself that they have a more “hands on” duty with the milking sector at least, but the nursery I didn’t figure how they’d help around, them being like nurses/assistants works. I can imagine a incubator being pampered by a swarm of supports. Kinda want to make the transform make them a lot larger now, just basically scaling the current art up. And in milking they basically just fuck.

Rexizor78 days ago

If there's no reserves, I assume the Incubator sector (or whatever sector is consuming the most juice) would just stall out and stop producing anything, and/or enter a "battery-saver" mode where it, like, consumes half juice in exchange for half core production. I can't imagine it'd be too hard to keep your juice production and consumption balanced, so the negative side would be more of a fail-safe, and wouldn't have to be that smooth, gameplay-wise.

Either that, or it'd stop you from buying any upgrades unless you had enough juice production to sustain them. A warning popup would probably be good either way, assuming you do go with juice-per-minute. Having the total in and out in the milking sector makes a lot of sense, yeah. Although each transformation should probably say how much it increases consumption by.

Yeah, if you didn't have the support team literally milking the milkers, that'd be a massive missed opportunity.

inopagames77 days ago

Yeah that sounds good, it just started to sound pretty hard to code in my head. Need to test if that’s the case when I get to updating.

Yeah hehe. Also thinking that when you assign the supports from the support sector screen, when you assign the last one, the representative disappears and appears standing behind the last selected sectors representative, or in front if I make the TF larger.

Rexizor77 days ago

Oh, so you are going to go with that representative idea? Glad you liked that, then. That sounds like a good idea, I agree.

inopagames77 days ago

Aah I think misread that comment you suggested that the untransformed would first be a “milker”, or forgot (if it was from there?). But yeah basically that, but the assigned support personel would be the designated “milkers”, the new guys would need to focus on the transformation full time.

Sorry, our ideas are starting to meld together and I’m starting to forget, but yes I liked it. Not trying to steal the idea. I believe it didn’t resonate right when you said it but it stayed in my mind, and when it came back I thought it was an original idea. I haven’t spitballed ideas this much like ever, apparently I have a tendency to do stuff like this.

Rexizor77 days ago

No worries. I was referring to those who had been transformed to provide juice as "milkers", seeing as it is the milking room. I was assuming the untransformed people would kinda just be... standing around. And that's very fair, this conversation has been going on for quite a while. Again, as long as I get some form of credit, being able to help you make this game into the best game it can be is reward enough for me. I don't necessarily need to know which ideas were "mine" and which were "yours" in the end.

inopagames77 days ago

Yeah will absolutely credit that the resource system was mainly you. Let’s just see if I ever get to make it with the shit going down with itch. If I get taken down, it’s been a joy making games and reading your thoughts on them. Thanks so much for the support!

Rexizor77 days ago

Alrighty. If you ever want to move over to some different platform just in case, be it Discord, Newgrounds, Twitter, or something else, I'll be there.

inopagames77 days ago (1 edit)

Awesome. Probably giving Newgrounds a try if I get purged. But let’s see, took the knight game down just in case, but if the other games are too much, then be it. Might make a Newgrounds either way, couple of people have asked for standalone arts and I believe you can post art there too.

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