You did it again!

A topic by Maxime Martyr created Apr 10, 2019 Views: 9,626 Replies: 8

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Hello,

Once again, you have censored the game with the maid bullshit when what she really is is his mother.

Fortunately, this time I know what to expect so when the game asked me what Leslie is to me and I read "Maid", I immediately understood that it was the same as in Town of Passion and so I changed "Maid" into "Mom" to be sure that this time, the game consistency will not be messed up like it is in Town of Passion.

Still, I send you to my Town of Passion's feedback since the same issue concerns Zombie's Retreat:

https://itch.io/t/434710/incest-was-not-included-in-the-game-description

Also, Town of Passion is full of "not implemented yet" features and you start a new game?

Are you not aware that people who enjoy the game are waiting for it to be complete and that if you make them wait too long, they will lose interest?

Don't you think that you will lose focus and slow down development if you spread your time between 2 games?

I humbly suggest you to complete what you start before starting something new, meaning focus on Town of Passion until completion and only once it is complete, you are free to focus all of your attention on Zombie's Retreat but not before your previous work is complete.

One game at one time, or else both of their development will be mixed up and slow and you will lose focus.

Town of Passion development is already slow compared to other RPG Maker games, and it is to be expected if you spend your time on another game then you will make people wait even longer for completion.

Why do you develop games in the first place? Because you want people to play and enjoy them, right? Then how do you think people will feel if they play and enjoy an incomplete game then you move to another game and make them wait for the game completion?

How do you, as a player, feel when this happens to you? When you play and enjoy an incomplete game and have to wait for its completion because its developer spends their time on something else instead of completing what they have started?

It is like having sex and stop before reaching orgasm, an enjoyable experience but frustrating if incomplete.

Maxime Martyr6 years ago (4 edits)

Oh okay I get it, Rachel is his aunt, it is the same as in Town of Passion, right? Then I need to restart the game and change Rachel from "Tutor" to "Aunt" in order to fix this "tutor" bullshit mess to save the game consistency.

Censorship is never good. -_-"

Maxime Martyr6 years ago (2 edits)

Ah, no, Rachel is most likely his sister from the way Leslie talk to both of us.

Aaaaaaand restart the game and change Rachel from "Tutor" to "Sis" to fix consistency again, yay, hurray for censorship! ~_~'

Maxime Martyr6 years ago

Okay who is Caroline now?

I know that when you ask who a person is to us, it is for censoring an incestuous relationship and so she is family related.

So who is Caroline really?

Hmm... The most probable answer is "Aunt" so I'll go with that for the time being.

Maxime Martyr6 years ago (2 edits)

Yay! I guessed it right! She calls Leslie "Sis" meaning that they are sisters and so she is indeed my aunt and so I did the good thing to answer "Auntie" and I will not have to reload my previous save to fix consistency, hurray! :-3

SirenDeveloper6 years ago (1 edit)

It looks like a kind member answered your main question in the previous thread so I will not repeat after them.

I will answer the concerns about working on two games at once, however. The artists who work on these games do so in their extra time. If I worked on one game at a time, a lot of time would be spent waiting for them to complete the scenes that players get to enjoy. Rotating projects also helps me prevent burn out as working on the games can be quite stressful at times (especially when criticisms and unrealistic expectations start to weigh you down a bit)

I hope that answers some of your concerns. Thank you for playing Town of Passion and Zombie's Retreat =)

Maxime Martyr6 years ago (2 edits)

Hey Raylene, I didn't expect you to be the creator of these worlds, I would have expected more the Mother Goddess or Minerva. :-3

It also looks like this kind member didn't answer my answer to his answer in the previous thread so it would be indeed pointless to repeat after him but meaningful to answer what he didn't. ;-3

You mean that you only need the CG from the artists to complete Town of Passion? You have already completed the game's development with the complete main story, all side stories, all characters, all locations, all dialogues, all quests, all items, everything, and now you are waiting for the CG from the artists to achieve completion?

People will always criticize you no matter what you will do just because they have their own opinion, I remind you that this is even a job, some people who believe that their opinion is more valuable than others make their living to criticize what others do and get paid for that, we even call them "critics".

Do not feed their ego, do not comfort them in their belief that their opinion is worth more than others', you don't have time for that, focus on what you try to achieve and that's it.

If someone critizes you without explaining what they dislike and sharing suggestions to improve what they think needs improvement then just ignore their useless criticism because it doesn't help you to improve.

And if expectations conflict with your vision or are higher than your capacities then just tell it.

You thank me for playing Town of Passion (though not anymore because there is nothing more for me to do there) and Zombie's Retreat, then I think I ought to thank you for creating them in the first place. :-)

Of course, I expect from you that you complete them, I will be disappointed if you abandon what you have started. ;-p

And since I have this expectation from you, I too will keep doing my part as a player to support you: playing and sharing experience feedbacks and suggestions to improve things. :-)

SirenDeveloper6 years ago

Haha, the Alpha design of Minerva was actually my profile picture before ToP switched art styles and Raylene just took her spot there.

No, I don't only need the CG to complete ToP or ZR but things change, directions change, and ideas get added/scrapped so if I work too far ahead, it will likely be wasted if plans change. It's hard to explain but in short, the work flow has to be flexible.

I appreciate the kind words and support =D When I started, I wanted to make sure people could trust that I will finish these projects. Rather than promise that, I like to put my words into action so I continue to work hard on the games.

I have skimmed through your other posts as well and have noted those. Thank you!

Maxime Martyr6 years ago

I understand what you mean when you say that if you work too far ahead and if plans change then your work will be wasted.

But this is the opposite actually. If artists draw CG too far ahead and you change the story then their CG will no more suit the story and be wasted because they draw what you ask them to draw to fit in your story.

What I mean to say is that the artists draw the CG from your story, not the other way around, you don't develop the story from the CG.

Meaning that you don't need to wait for the CG in order to complete the story and it is actually better if you prepare the complete story ahead of them so their CG will not be wasted if you change your mind during the story's development, you understand my point, don't you?

Moreover, you need to keep in mind that the longer the development will take, the most likely you will change your mind and lose consistency with what you have already created so far.

When you start developing a story, it is better to complete it at once before you lose track of every each detail you have told from the beginning and generate inconsistency because you forgot some details.

You know what we say: the Devil lies within the details. :-3

I support you because I like your games so naturally I want you to continue and am willing to stand by your side to the end. ;-)

If you continue to love your games, then so will I. :-)

I hope that my experience feedbacks will help you to improve, this is why I share them in the first place after all. ;-)

Thank you too. ;-)