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Hi wonderful game!! Feel like Jonas' constructive feedback weren't very good. And I noticed so many things when playing it sorry.

In the first level. When you play the instruments with few notes. Like this one

You can get away with just timing, and then pressing Q, W, E and R. I like how the system is forgiving, but I think it is too forgiving in instruments with fewer notes
You could make it so that in instruments with fewer notes, you are allowed to do less mistakes. (Than the standard 4?)

Second, instead of exiting the Rhythm Panel when the last correct note is played; just allow the player to finish the last note. It'll make the player happier.

Third, when you play a note the entire screen bounces as positive feedback. I Instead of bouncing the entire screen just bounce the background. Bouncing the Rhythm Panel disturbs the player a little. <_>
Also since it's a positive feedback, I don't think the screen should bounce when you are playing transparent notes.

It's only because the game is so nice, that you notice these things. :)

Bearmask4 years ago (2 edits) (+1)

Hey, no need to say sorry, thanks so much for taking the time to play the game and giving such detailed feedback!

I iterated on the rhythm panel quite a lot as I wanted to try and make this part of the game feel as good as possible, so I'm grateful for your suggestions to help improve this.

Regarding the points you raised:

1. I'll think about this, I want it to be easy for the player to internalize how many misses it takes before the notes reset, rather than have this vary too much between instruments. I'm also ok with the first few instruments being quite easy and forgiving, so I might not change this too much.

2. I'm on board with this one. In your suggestion do you mean that it should wait until the end of the section before switching or just that the last note should finish playing before switching? The reason I did it like this is that I thought the player would not realize they had completed the section and continue to try and input notes. However I think it would be better to do as you suggest and also think of a way of showing visually that the instrument is completed after hitting the last note.

3. I'm with you on this one too. I will try doing the screen bounce with just the background, I can definitely see how the rhythm bar moving makes things awkward for the player. Maybe I'll also experiment with smaller bouncing for the transparent notes, as I still want it to feel somewhat good to hit these.

Thanks for the suggestions, they were very helpful :)

Ice Cream Victor4 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

Of course! There is no secret formula to a good game, it's about testing the game and trying out what feels right! The things I noticed are just suggestions.

1. I totally understand you wanting it to be forgiving. It is only the instruments with the least notes. It felt like it accepted me spamming the keys. If someone starts with one of the easy instruments, and their spamming is accepted they might think about it.
If the player thinks too much about it, it might disturb the flow of the game. I'm thinking about the overanalyzing-type of players. But it is difficult to make a game that pleases everyone so don't pay too much attention to that. :)

2. Yes! Exactly! Don't wait until the section has finished playing, but just wait a half second before the Rhythm Panel closes, and show the player some positive visual feedback.

I wanted to finish the note before the the Rhythm Panel closed. It felt more like the game played the note, and not the me.

3. I agree. ^^

I'm glad you could use my suggestions, or at least thought about them! Your game already is a masterpiece. Short, cute and with an attention to detail. My favourite type of game. c:

Bearmask4 years ago(+1)

Great, thanks for getting back to me! I didn't think about players just spamming keys too much, so I'll think about how to handle that behaviour a bit more. Thanks again for the feedback and the kind words, I really appreciate it :)

Bearmask4 years ago(+1)

Hi, I made some of the adjustments you suggested along with adding another level, feel free to try it out if you like :) I'd be interested to get your feedback!

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