RIP Monster Girl Island, the dream was nice while it lasted
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(just gonna lay it all out)
1. MGI was a big project. It was well funded, sadly and if I'm getting my stories straight patreon was well patreon. They wanted a huge cut and Red wasn't going to give in. I respect him on that.
2. This issue is tech grew faster than red could work.
3. (an offical statement "The story started in MGI Prologue will be expanded upon on different games that I've been working on.
"MGI prologue was becoming too dated and development taking too long, so I decided to cut my losses and move the story to smaller, more manageable games.
The core story has been mostly unadulterated, but not all characters will get as much focus as it was originally intended, at least for now..."-Red ( Jan 2nd, 2024) There is more to this, but this is the core.
4.I'm not sure what he means by "cut his losses" As people would have 100% would have supported him.
5.The other issue is his ego got in the way, I'm pretty sure some talented people were lined up willing to help. But he wanted to work on the game himself. I get it his story, his baby. I can respect it but it got the game killed.
6. (3. continue)
"Love;Again are visual novels focused on dating and ecchi rather than straight up hentai.
MGI Saga is focused on world building and tries to be more of a game than the other entries in the series.
I understand not everyone will like these changes, but it is what it is."- red (again more to this but this still another part to 3.)
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I'm not really sure what truly happened. I feel he honestly just lost his drive. He might be making more but sadly I feel that he did damage to his reputation. MGI as i said before was more or less the gateway for monster girls/hentai. Yeah it's a hentai/lewd game blah blah blah, but I am 100% certain it would been a staple of hentai games.
Patreon is based on percentages. It never changes. Sorry but, that's not accurate
Yes, Patreon was charging him 200,000 a year.
That's because his page was generating 2 million a year at one point.
It's percentages, they scale the bigger the number is.
That's how just about all services work, they take a percentage, which means more profit to them based on success.
I doubt he was targeted, per say.
It seems unlikely. As I mentioned, at some point they were getting 20,000 a month in income from his page. They really wouldn't want to target someone under those circumstances. They did update their TOS and do so often, but I've been on Patreon for years and it's never been anything excessive that they require or ask of Patrons. The main reason they update their TOS is because some developers try to skirt the rules by bending them. Those rules need to be amended once people find out about it.
Naturally, it's up to the developer whether they want to adhere or decline. It seems this dev did, for whatever reason.
I don't think this game will ever be finished, but I do come and check on it from time to time. Just to see if I'm wrong. ^_^
He wasn't targeted, as he was quite the cash cow, as you said.
What happened, on the Patreon side of things, is that Red released the Halloween build for his Patrons, which includes two female characters getting intimate, not only with the MC, but also with another.
Those two characters, Ara and Faranne, for those who are familiar with the cast, refer to each other as "siblings" because the former was quasi-adopted by the latter. Patreon temporarily disabled Red's page and asked him to change the game, since they don't allow incest. Since the characters in question were of completely different species and the game is very clear about them not actually being related (well, and because Red was stupid rich anyway), the creator said "fuck off, I'll quit Patreon then", and decided to not release any more updates until either the game or the fifth chapter of the game was finished.
He was considering switching to a newer version of the engine after releasing the first half, i.e. Prologue + chapters 1-5, and then work on turning what was supposed to be the second half (chapters 6-9 + epilogue, iirc) into a sequel.
Apparently, that is now no longer the plan...
For projects of this scale they should've just gone to platforms like kickstarter. The problem with Patreon as a longer-term fund-as-you-develop platform is that none of the parties gets any guarantee.
Patreon is meant for regular content delivery like podcasts, video clips or illustrations. If your game is not able to deliver substantial updates at least on a quarterly basis then Patreon is a really bad idea for raising funds.
Actually from what i read on multiple reddits and other sites. It wasn't that. I think that the Patreons or simply to say. People who supported him, went basically against him for releasing everything very very slowly (Despite him saying it will arrive soon, but they weren't wrong since that part with frog girl, forgot her name. was there after very long time)
And some ppl were checking files of the game and somehow found out that those characters used in game are not made by him, which i dunno about that. I could like 50% believe it and 50% not believe it. But it's closer to not believing it. I mean i think it make sense that those characters could be made by him, since i mean did you saw any 18+ animations with those models ? Not including the game itself.
But Reddamz himself said that, patreon was demanding control over his game so he left patreon. And said that the game will be sold after it will be finished. He said that in 2021. That was his last tweet on twitter. With 3D model showcase of a new girl. So who knows. Maybe he is working on it. Maybe he gave up. But i mean 2+ years and no sign of him, nor any info. Who knows.
There is information elsewhere that he gives updates and is active. The game MGI is done as is. *With more stories being released in smaller settings*
The main issues: was Patreon changing their tos and him not being able to have enough time.
(There was a lot of deserved back lash that he got and is getting. I usually take the side of the dev, especially because a small team or working alone. The issue I have hear is that he 100% needed help and refused. Which is his right, but it cost the game's 'life'. Even though he gives updates, it does feel he took the money and ran sometimes.)
The things I quoted was just said this year by him.
Thanks for that info. I could see a game of this following being overwhelming.
I can also understand why he refused help. I had a few people approach me , offering "help" for one of my projects. Before they even got hired properly, they started trying to take over.
He's probably had to deal with a lot. Stuff we may never know.
Yeah he is active on discord. He gives info to people. He actually made an halloween event for MGI. But he is working on like other game? that he then wants to combine with MGI? If i got it correctly. But to me MGI feels just undone. I mean there are many characters that need some "scenes" if you know what i mean. And we don't know what happened after the current "ending" of MGI. So for anybody. He has a discord where he gives info about upcoming things.
From how it read, he is making games before MGI took place, and also games that take place where MGI left off. But i think they are all the novel type game?
Which is where people are mad at and rightfully so. (I'm just viewing this from the outside looking in. I know that. Though I understand him, I still stand on the ground of, yeah you messed up.)
I mean i could understand making novel type game. It's not that difficult compared to MGI 3D explore etc... type game. And novels are relatively popular, since depends on the creator. Some may create 2D type novel or 2D+3D type novel (3D for some "scenes") Or just purely 3D like Corrupted Kingdoms and many others. But well i thought that he would continue with MGI. Since for me it's unfinished. He now does what almost every big game company does. Make a game, then go back to the past before it all. Then go into future and then return to the current year or timeline and continue it. Which i am not really fan off. Only few companies got away with it. And small creator i mean?? It could and could not... But well we will see in future how it will goes and what ppl will think. Currently MGI is officialy "Finished" in eyes for the creator but in eyes of the people/fans it's not finished.