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Are there any in game hints about how to get either of the two monsters?

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I know one is village related, and you wouldnt normally do em in a run, and the other is tama reversed, my current guesses are that maybe if you get a certain item after getting egg, thst it will transform, or that you would feed cheese to a certain monster before hatching the egg? but I have little idea for the village, as mine keeps resetting, maybe if you have 2 specific monsters in a nest you get a secret one?

you are one the right track! no items involved

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not sure which one I am on the right track for, I'm assuming its the village one though, besides that I guess I'll have to keep playing, can't really think of how the inverse of tama wouldn't involve items

Edit: I added mabek, kabu, and mudgill into a nest so that the ladders would add up to "Mabu",  I feel like I am over complicating it

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I just got it, I'm not sure if I did it correctly or not though, might just be a bug

Edit: yeah it's consistent so I think I got it, much easier than I thought, now for messa

Woo!

what is a ladder

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I wonder how many people have allready figured out how to get it, surely not that many

so far if anyone has, they havent mentioned it!