All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.
Hi Grizz. I'm a Tyson Hoss and Dean fan and I just wanted to let you know I personally really love the way their romance routes played out! Tyson's special moments with dave had me teary eyed for like months. Their ''bro'' relationship was so intense I loved getting to be part of it, Hoss's moments were funny and laid back as fitting for him, and Dean's were classy and romantic which were fitting for him, so I had a really good time seeing it all. I've made up pretend stories privately before, and man it can be crazy balancing emotional character relationships with super complicated mystery stuff.... I feel like Password is super long and huge and has so much more emotional depth to it than I could possibly expect outta just one single story made by one guy, and I want you to know I think it's awesome and it cheers me up just getting a new update each month! I don't know if compliments like this mean a whole lot to you or not, but I just felt like I had some positive stuff to say so I wanted to to say it! Thanks for making such cool characters!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and hopefully you continue to enjoy! Compliments are always nice, too! Password isn't finished though, and I know there are some parts that really need a good polishing, but you're very welcome all the same!
I was not a fan of the lackluster act 2 resolutions of the romance plotlines, they were severely underwhelming and were more of a distraction from the murder mystery. I wouldn't have missed anything if they weren't there. And after reading the Patreon post on upcoming changes for Steam and Nintendo platforms... I am disappointed and feel it is time to quit this VN. Best of luck. :/
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the romance angle wasn't ever really meant to be the main focus. Admittedly I botched that delivery so I do apologize.
Though for my own benefit, what exactly was lackluster about it? Just the lack of sex scenes or? Naturally any chance I can get to be a better writer I'll take, so hit me with that feedback.
I can see how it was lackluster. Even with it not being the main focus the way the characters are fleshed out you can't help but get attached. You spend time with them learning their history, hopes and dreams. Then it just ends with a black screen and a line of 'i spent the night with my *incert species here*, and thats it.
All the character building, getting so close to them and it just culminated to the equivalent of just skipping to the next day.
I'm open to reworking those scenes, but with the restriction that I can't have explicit sexual content in-game (for a number of reasons), what would a suitable alternative be?
For me personally i just found them 'meh' but since you mentioned doing additions like the daveXtyson where appropriate as extras i'm not all that bothered with it.
However there are ways to do it without blatantly going ''then they knot fucked''. Maybe rather than thinking about wording it erotic go in a different direction. After all its just looking to be more impactful and satisfying.
I’m no author so I’m probably going to be terrible but I shall try to do an example (I will probably do terrible crimes of cringe).
'My heart was beating like a war drum as we went back to my room. A thousand thoughts running through my mind. When we arrived it was like the birth of a galaxy. Everything was new. Things that were so simple suddenly had new meaning and more gravitas. A touch of the hands, his fingers entwined with mine. His sent that had become so familiar filled me with comfort. His arms wrapping around me made me feel safe from the horrors of the world. And there in that embrace I fell into the sweetest slumber. As if ascending to paradise our souls intertwined our hearts beating as one.'
Yes Dave would never say or think like that, like I said I’m not an author and I’m not part of any fanfic stuff either. This is more an example of just fluffing thing up to sound more impactful. It can be summed up as ‘’we went back to my room and I fell asleep in his arms’’. However it sound a lot more grandiose when you frame it differently. What I tried to do was frame it with spirituality.
If it's a framing issue I can 100% fix that. Would it be a fade to black, just added prose in-between lines that currently exist? What would you say is appropriate for a route like Sal's or even Hoss's where they're still just figuring things out? It's easy when there's deep-seated emotions already there, but I'm stuck on the others that don't.
To the people that need explicit sex scenes to have a good finale, I don't know if there is a compromise to ever be had. The fade to black parts were already that nice middle ground I thought. Heck even that was more than I expected since all I had hoped for from Tysons route was that "I love you" moment with Dave and maybe an awkward kiss. Both of which were delivered on (and then some).
I guess if I had to add anything, since I'm overall satisfied with what we do have, maybe just more dialogue or descriptions in some places would be nice. Orlando and Hoss could both do with a bit more because as it is both of their scenes kind of just happen and it's suddenly over whereas Dean and Tyson have that little bit extra. This sort of applies to each route overall as well, not just day 19, that more dialogue could be added to flesh out everyone's relationship with Dave just that little bit more.
As an example, my favorite part in that pdf was probably Tyson licking Dave affectionately at the end. It was cute and overall a minor thing, but even something that minor stuck with me.
That story actually had a lot I wish was in the game itself. And I don't mean the sexual more explicit parts, I think it's that we get to see them interact for a bit longer and it just felt more natural. Like, it really felt like they loved each other then and it was... well, nice.
So to summarize, it's primarily a pacing issue? We can fluff up the scene a little bit with extraneous detail easily enough, I just assumed people wouldn't want something dragged out when it wasn't going to lead to something explicit. Although the more tender things we should be fine to work in (such as the licking from Tyson).
I'm a little stuck however when it comes to the amount of what's reasonable for certain characters wildly outweigh others: - Orlando/Tyson/Dean have long-standing affection for Dave in varying degrees so to this end Orlando got the short end of the stick and should be fixed accordingly. (Granted he's a lot messier in the sack than the other two) - Roswell/Sal/Hoss all fit under the 'still figuring it out' umbrella with varying levels of sexual drive. So there being this same level of romantic tenderness doesn't really seem appropriate.
And that's kind of where adding dialogue in random places doesn't really work either as a quick fix. On one hand we have to balance the mystery, which is supposed to be the main focus, but also not overshadow it which to my own failing I've botched. Still, for someone like Sal to start opening up during the vacation and Dave becoming closer to him as a friend doesn't leave much in the character arc to start reminiscing freely about backstory when we're also in the shoes of a depressed hyena.
I'll see if I can think of a solution but it's not going to be a simple fix I think.
If you mean the ones that have letters, A through to E so far can be accessed, although not all are finished. If you meant something else, I don't know what you're asking, sorry.
Ok so, when I saw the message I got super curious, I searched for an old version everywhere, dug through every single post and message and FINALLY found an old version of the game. And what it unlocked was literally just an "They all died lmao" ending, not really something too interesting and I understand why it was removed.
Originally it was me testing to see how Renpy handled jumping through the script as a preliminary test to how I wanted to handle the vault system. So in part of that I riff'd 999 and as said above, a "lol all ded" ending.
Maybe this is a spoiler. So, you've been warned...
Okay, I've finished Tyson's route and replay it until i have to put a password on day eleventh path A. I'm confused, why didn't I get that part before? I mean, I always remember every password that I had input... u'know, i write it on a note
Has the 0.39 version been uploaded here？Using patreon is quite a pain for me, so I always buy the game from itch. But now it's been TWO DAYS, and it keeps telling me "0.38 uploaded 32 days ago." T_T
There is no public update this month given I was moving over the holiday period. Patrons didn't get one last month, so what they got this month will roll down to public next month.
So the whole true ending thing in the patreon post has me wondering a bit. Namely if it'll be in it's own separate timeline or will every route inevitably lead to it.
I guess I'm just curious if we'll get character endings where Dave gets that happy ending with the route partner now. Or if it will even matter if 5/6 always have the lingering smell of "it doesn't work out" hanging over them.
And I get the game has never been a dating sim with the mystery being the true focus. Just... idk, it'll be sad if the romance parts are meaningless to care about outside one route.
I think the whole timeline thing is literally just referencing save files…because to Dave, not knowing how he remembers passwords but still getting them is just us, the player being Dave in different saves files with knowledge from a different one.
Also we’ll just hafta see, but Dave being in a relationship or not isn’t exactly mandatory when it comes to getting of the mountain in the end…routes in this game (and pretty much everywhere) are kinda there for perspective building, but there’s always an overall story to tell :)
Probably safe to say Roswell and Sal aren't cannon boyfriends judging from what grizz said about the sequel. If they where then dave would probably guaranteed to pop up but with even a dave cameo being a maybe i think probably not.
I'm making an active effort to leave the hyena with his happy end come the end of Password, regardless of who the intended boyfriend is. So if it is Sal or Roswell, know the story I want to tell with the sequel is a lot less focused on romantic relationships and dealing with the fact the police are kinda garbage in-universe currently.
They will not be in the actual VN due to reasons Grizz will explain at a later date. Though i think its to do with releasing on other platforms but i guess i'll wait and see.
Ugh, I've been stuck on Route D and C for Dean and I can't figure out what the password on Day 10 is. I've looked at what Florencia says and noted any significant words but nothing works!
On day 10, pay attention to the conversation with Benson/Roswell towards the end of the day. Like with the other passwords Dave will notice when a word stands out.
The clue is thinking what the worst thing that could happen is, and if you've been down C/D you already know what exactly happens that night.
There's a fair bit in that lead up conversation you can ask about to start like his background, life, or interests. Just make sure you phrase stuff in the form of a question. "Do you know about x", "what do you think about x", "can you tell me about x", etc. There's nothing you need to ask about to proceed or anything that changes the story drastically. It's all background lore or easter egg stuff.
For spoilers sake if you wanted to find them yourself stop here. But if you wanted more direct things to ask...
So far I've found around 50 questions he'll respond to and apparently there's more than that.
Some good questions that I always like to ask if I'm doing a playthrough: "who is marked for death" is a good one, asking about the forest or what's in it have some unfortunate hints about future events, you can ask about his family, asking "What do you think of x" the only character he'll have a unique response to is Roswell. You can ask about the medals to find out just how many there are to find.
Finally, the only ones I've found that changes dialogue or effects the story so far.
"Do you like rabbits?"
"Can you tell me a story?"
It adds a small bit of dialogue to Tysons day 10 and for every route adds something extra to day 13.
And I always finish the interview off with "Can I thank you?"
The password is given to you during his bad ending. If I remember right, the word gets repeated at least a couple of times towards the end.
So just look for a word that sticks out, or pay attention to Dave since he'll point them out in some way. And a good rule to follow is don't look too hard, most of them are just hidden in plain sight if you're not skipping dialogue.
20th grizz mentioned on patreon his IRL stuff is in the middle of settling and there'll be a ''password in 2022'' plan outline later on so probably with the february patreon update.
To my knowledge no, and if Grizz is going to do official guides they would probably come afterwards like inbetween password and its sequal. That would give him some free time to do guides and any extra polish that he wanted to do. But that would be up to Grizz.
Not really. But if you search around reddit and other sites you should find most of your answers. Also, if you want to know what each choice does to the future dialogue you can go into settings and make sure you do not skip unseen text (it should be this way by default). Then you just go back to the last dialogue and skip what you can and read the rest. That's what I did but I had to wipe all the saves from %appdata% so its fresh and the game doesnt know what text you read. Just keep in mind that doing that is like a reformatting. Youll have to re read everything all over again unless you remembered your chocies and enabled skip unseen text.
As for the talk with Hamond where you can ask him any question, whatever you ask him wont have an impact on the game, and I do believe Grizz has not programmed in any text that will give us clues or confirm our own suspicions of what is going on. So over all, youre not missing much.
will someone mind telling me if there are new passwords. I know of the first 3. Dean's, the butler, and Sal's. But i need to know if new ones have been added i havent played in a while
You need to find passwords in the text and use them at the vault before the bad event happens. The one your after is in the bad ending and is related to the bad ending.
n o w I can't figure out password to save Benson to figure out how to save LOL I've tried everything I could think of I know it has to do with a type of firearm
n o w I can't figure out password to save Benson to figure out how to save LOL I've tried everything I could think of I know it has to do with a type of firearm
Benson needs multiple passwords. Each are found in the bad endings. Using one will lead to a new chain of events on day 8 and the next password will be in the new chain of events.
There is something on Hoss's route on day 7 that helps with day 8 and allows to avoid one of the passwords. Think it happens on Orlando's route too but once you know the right password it will work on every route, day 8 is a universal one.
There are toooo many good things to say about this VN, and not enough space to do it UwU but I'd really like to say how well Tyson is written :3 I had a friend EXACTLY like him :| like, they're scarily similar! xD the character is really well nailed~
And taking about being well nailed~ ;p I know every1ne has already said this, but was really looking forward to that shnushnu scene in particular :(
But otherwise, there really isn't anything else like this out there! ^^_ it's so original, and has come such a long way since those earlier days when my heart was broken by what happened to Dean involving the 1irst password QwQ excellent VN all 'round~
Btw, what's written on Hoss's shirt? I can only confidently make out the "Wa" and "No" particles ^///^"
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Kenapa kau membuat Hoss mati!! Dia laki-laki saya aaahhh Please make him come back
Temukan kata sandi di akhir yang buruk untuk menyelamatkan orang
Try and avoid using passwords in your comments please, it ruins the experience for others only just discovering the game.
On Day 10, Sal will let you pass that scenario regardless of if you get the password correct or not.
As far as CGs vanishing, what are you referring to? As in from the gallery or?
yeah it constantly vanishes from the gallery (also i apologize for putting two passwords in, it wasn't my intention to ruin the experience for others)
All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
i have noticed this happening with the trauma section of the gallery when new cgs get added, but then it comes back once i completed the gallery again
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
Nope, everything you did is right. Sal's just not the kissing type amidst juggling his emotions and loyalties to his best friend.
Ah! Okay.
QUESTION/POSSIBLE IMAGE SPOILER?
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
Ah, play Roswell's route to get that one. It features Tyson, but isn't on his route. You shouldn't need to play much of Roswell's to get it, either.
Is it somewhere before Day 20 for him? I just finished playing Roswell's Day and I didn't see it.
think its from the first bad end for roswell
I have a question
Are all the Zodiac medals obtainable in the diferents routes ?
And they are only in Path A or in the 4 paths
As of right now, not all of them have been discovered in the story, regardless of path.
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
I'll pass this along to Civ and see if he can isolate it and then maybe we can think of something when the tracks get remastered.
77%
What are you referring to?
i often try to guess how far along completion some of the VNs i play are, that was my estimate assuming it will go until day 26
Ah, understood. Good luck in your guess!
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.
Sal is my everything omg
Hi Grizz. I'm a Tyson Hoss and Dean fan and I just wanted to let you know I personally really love the way their romance routes played out! Tyson's special moments with dave had me teary eyed for like months. Their ''bro'' relationship was so intense I loved getting to be part of it, Hoss's moments were funny and laid back as fitting for him, and Dean's were classy and romantic which were fitting for him, so I had a really good time seeing it all. I've made up pretend stories privately before, and man it can be crazy balancing emotional character relationships with super complicated mystery stuff.... I feel like Password is super long and huge and has so much more emotional depth to it than I could possibly expect outta just one single story made by one guy, and I want you to know I think it's awesome and it cheers me up just getting a new update each month! I don't know if compliments like this mean a whole lot to you or not, but I just felt like I had some positive stuff to say so I wanted to to say it! Thanks for making such cool characters!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and hopefully you continue to enjoy! Compliments are always nice, too! Password isn't finished though, and I know there are some parts that really need a good polishing, but you're very welcome all the same!
So is the main story done? Or is this VN “not done” in regards to some bug fixed/polishes?
Have you played it? You'll get a message end of demo, so no it's not done. The VN is meant to last a month and its on day 20 so still a ways to go.
I was not a fan of the lackluster act 2 resolutions of the romance plotlines, they were severely underwhelming and were more of a distraction from the murder mystery. I wouldn't have missed anything if they weren't there. And after reading the Patreon post on upcoming changes for Steam and Nintendo platforms... I am disappointed and feel it is time to quit this VN. Best of luck. :/
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the romance angle wasn't ever really meant to be the main focus. Admittedly I botched that delivery so I do apologize.
Though for my own benefit, what exactly was lackluster about it? Just the lack of sex scenes or? Naturally any chance I can get to be a better writer I'll take, so hit me with that feedback.
I can see how it was lackluster. Even with it not being the main focus the way the characters are fleshed out you can't help but get attached. You spend time with them learning their history, hopes and dreams. Then it just ends with a black screen and a line of 'i spent the night with my *incert species here*, and thats it.
All the character building, getting so close to them and it just culminated to the equivalent of just skipping to the next day.
I'm open to reworking those scenes, but with the restriction that I can't have explicit sexual content in-game (for a number of reasons), what would a suitable alternative be?
For me personally i just found them 'meh' but since you mentioned doing additions like the daveXtyson where appropriate as extras i'm not all that bothered with it.
However there are ways to do it without blatantly going ''then they knot fucked''. Maybe rather than thinking about wording it erotic go in a different direction. After all its just looking to be more impactful and satisfying.
I’m no author so I’m probably going to be terrible but I shall try to do an example (I will probably do terrible crimes of cringe).
'My heart was beating like a war drum as we went back to my room. A thousand thoughts running through my mind. When we arrived it was like the birth of a galaxy. Everything was new. Things that were so simple suddenly had new meaning and more gravitas. A touch of the hands, his fingers entwined with mine. His sent that had become so familiar filled me with comfort. His arms wrapping around me made me feel safe from the horrors of the world. And there in that embrace I fell into the sweetest slumber. As if ascending to paradise our souls intertwined our hearts beating as one.'
Yes Dave would never say or think like that, like I said I’m not an author and I’m not part of any fanfic stuff either. This is more an example of just fluffing thing up to sound more impactful. It can be summed up as ‘’we went back to my room and I fell asleep in his arms’’. However it sound a lot more grandiose when you frame it differently. What I tried to do was frame it with spirituality.
If it's a framing issue I can 100% fix that. Would it be a fade to black, just added prose in-between lines that currently exist? What would you say is appropriate for a route like Sal's or even Hoss's where they're still just figuring things out? It's easy when there's deep-seated emotions already there, but I'm stuck on the others that don't.
I have a little to add here if that's alright.
To the people that need explicit sex scenes to have a good finale, I don't know if there is a compromise to ever be had. The fade to black parts were already that nice middle ground I thought. Heck even that was more than I expected since all I had hoped for from Tysons route was that "I love you" moment with Dave and maybe an awkward kiss. Both of which were delivered on (and then some).
I guess if I had to add anything, since I'm overall satisfied with what we do have, maybe just more dialogue or descriptions in some places would be nice. Orlando and Hoss could both do with a bit more because as it is both of their scenes kind of just happen and it's suddenly over whereas Dean and Tyson have that little bit extra.
This sort of applies to each route overall as well, not just day 19, that more dialogue could be added to flesh out everyone's relationship with Dave just that little bit more.
As an example, my favorite part in that pdf was probably Tyson licking Dave affectionately at the end. It was cute and overall a minor thing, but even something that minor stuck with me.
That story actually had a lot I wish was in the game itself. And I don't mean the sexual more explicit parts, I think it's that we get to see them interact for a bit longer and it just felt more natural. Like, it really felt like they loved each other then and it was... well, nice.
So to summarize, it's primarily a pacing issue? We can fluff up the scene a little bit with extraneous detail easily enough, I just assumed people wouldn't want something dragged out when it wasn't going to lead to something explicit. Although the more tender things we should be fine to work in (such as the licking from Tyson).
I'm a little stuck however when it comes to the amount of what's reasonable for certain characters wildly outweigh others:
- Orlando/Tyson/Dean have long-standing affection for Dave in varying degrees so to this end Orlando got the short end of the stick and should be fixed accordingly. (Granted he's a lot messier in the sack than the other two)
- Roswell/Sal/Hoss all fit under the 'still figuring it out' umbrella with varying levels of sexual drive. So there being this same level of romantic tenderness doesn't really seem appropriate.
And that's kind of where adding dialogue in random places doesn't really work either as a quick fix. On one hand we have to balance the mystery, which is supposed to be the main focus, but also not overshadow it which to my own failing I've botched. Still, for someone like Sal to start opening up during the vacation and Dave becoming closer to him as a friend doesn't leave much in the character arc to start reminiscing freely about backstory when we're also in the shoes of a depressed hyena.
I'll see if I can think of a solution but it's not going to be a simple fix I think.
Makeout sessions? Like, you could have them kiss a bit, but not go into detail with it.
I have a feeling that someone on this vacation isn't who they seem to be, but I need more information to make a sound call. 🤔🤔🤔
I have a question, when the update is release, what should I do? re-download and delete the first data or...?
Oh yeah, so how many routes can be played? (just curious)
1. Download the latest version and run it. It will automatically detect your saves.
2. One for each main cast member of Dave's friends. There are additional branches for the bad timelines however.
I'm sorry, but I think I ask the wrong question.
I want to ask, how many path in this vn that can be played?
If you mean the ones that have letters, A through to E so far can be accessed, although not all are finished. If you meant something else, I don't know what you're asking, sorry.
oh so there are five paths... I see... Which one is the main path?
And don't apologize, you didn't do anything wrong... 😅
As of right now, A and B are currently ongoing.
hey so Password has a Personality DataBase page that could really use some love
https://www.personality-database.com/profile?pid=2&cid=11&sub_cat_id=12572
First password is in the bad ending and has more attention drawn to it
If you haven't gotten a password correct yet, the bad ends you've been seeing are the ones you want
Just bumping this to the top incase any late comers.
Password in 2022 pupblic notice: https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-in-2022-62493391
damnnnnnn i really wanted to see a scene with tyson T^T oh well.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094 Here.
oh wow wtf that was hot, thank you omg.
I wonder if there is an actual password that you can input first time you see the keypad
There is but what it unlocked was removed and was non cannon, now it just closes the VN.
Can you tell us more? I am curious what that password was and what it did.
Ok so, when I saw the message I got super curious, I searched for an old version everywhere, dug through every single post and message and FINALLY found an old version of the game. And what it unlocked was literally just an "They all died lmao" ending, not really something too interesting and I understand why it was removed.
Originally it was me testing to see how Renpy handled jumping through the script as a preliminary test to how I wanted to handle the vault system. So in part of that I riff'd 999 and as said above, a "lol all ded" ending.
this entire game is the vine boom sound effect and i mean this is the BEST way possible
I don't know what this means but I agree 100%
Maybe this is a spoiler. So, you've been warned...
Okay, I've finished Tyson's route and replay it until i have to put a password on day eleventh path A. I'm confused, why didn't I get that part before? I mean, I always remember every password that I had input... u'know, i write it on a note
pretty sure its there on every route however i'm not sure how important it is as it doesn't lead to a bad end.
Actually, I've found it. and yes, you're right it doesn't lead to a bad ending.
Has the 0.39 version been uploaded here？Using patreon is quite a pain for me, so I always buy the game from itch. But now it's been TWO DAYS, and it keeps telling me "0.38 uploaded 32 days ago." T_T
you need to use the link on patreon which will take you to itch's verification screen then after thats done you can get the next build
does that mean the latest update is only for patrons?
There is no public update this month given I was moving over the holiday period. Patrons didn't get one last month, so what they got this month will roll down to public next month.
Okay, so for the next update will be Dean and Tyson, right? Can't wait 😆
Nope character routes are done now, so its all just wraping up the mystery so its all routes.
So the whole true ending thing in the patreon post has me wondering a bit. Namely if it'll be in it's own separate timeline or will every route inevitably lead to it.
I guess I'm just curious if we'll get character endings where Dave gets that happy ending with the route partner now. Or if it will even matter if 5/6 always have the lingering smell of "it doesn't work out" hanging over them.
And I get the game has never been a dating sim with the mystery being the true focus. Just... idk, it'll be sad if the romance parts are meaningless to care about outside one route.
I think the whole timeline thing is literally just referencing save files…because to Dave, not knowing how he remembers passwords but still getting them is just us, the player being Dave in different saves files with knowledge from a different one.
Also we’ll just hafta see, but Dave being in a relationship or not isn’t exactly mandatory when it comes to getting of the mountain in the end…routes in this game (and pretty much everywhere) are kinda there for perspective building, but there’s always an overall story to tell :)
Probably safe to say Roswell and Sal aren't cannon boyfriends judging from what grizz said about the sequel. If they where then dave would probably guaranteed to pop up but with even a dave cameo being a maybe i think probably not.
I'm making an active effort to leave the hyena with his happy end come the end of Password, regardless of who the intended boyfriend is. So if it is Sal or Roswell, know the story I want to tell with the sequel is a lot less focused on romantic relationships and dealing with the fact the police are kinda garbage in-universe currently.
Theres going to be a sequel??! :'D
Already been reported, but thanks for letting me know
No problem i'm just glad the error happened when there wasn't any real dialogue so there wasn't any spoilers.
Things get very interesting in the next build, and it came out on my birthday too. I consider that a win. 😃😃😃
Password in 2022 pupblic notice: https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-in-2022-62493391
I don’t know if anyone can help but, has anyone been able to see any of the Spicy scenes, or is it just me?
tyson and daves spicy scene: https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094
They will not be in the actual VN due to reasons Grizz will explain at a later date. Though i think its to do with releasing on other platforms but i guess i'll wait and see.
Is there any special characters or numbers included when typing in the password?
Im new to this vn so im not sure if the passwords have those like what roswell mentioned about him typing 'p@55w0rd' at the vault
No, only letters.
Oh right, I got this when I cant put the right password on ty's route day 17. So, This vn development is only up to day nineteen?
How strange! I thought I'd patched that out. No matter, it'll be fixed in a later build but otherwise yes. Public update only goes up to 19.
Well, good luck. I hope you can solve it
Ugh, I've been stuck on Route D and C for Dean and I can't figure out what the password on Day 10 is. I've looked at what Florencia says and noted any significant words but nothing works!
On day 10, pay attention to the conversation with Benson/Roswell towards the end of the day. Like with the other passwords Dave will notice when a word stands out.
The clue is thinking what the worst thing that could happen is, and if you've been down C/D you already know what exactly happens that night.
I wanted to ask but on day 17 on Tyson's route I'm not sure what word it is because it says feral is close but I'm not sure what word I should use
orlando says it or alludes to it so look there
Wait, so you don't need to get the bad end first?
Not this time. 😃😃😃
Damn, it means I have to re-read ty's route....
Hmmm.... On day 17 right?
Yep Day 17
Only for the first passwords. Day 10 and beyond are meant to be found before the event happens.
is this for all routes?
But, I prefer get the bad end first. Y'know, to get the better picture of what is happening...
Remember: don't think too much. 🙂🙂
For oswin what phrases are things should I ask him because I'm trying to think of something and I can't find the right phrase or whatever
There's a fair bit in that lead up conversation you can ask about to start like his background, life, or interests. Just make sure you phrase stuff in the form of a question. "Do you know about x", "what do you think about x", "can you tell me about x", etc. There's nothing you need to ask about to proceed or anything that changes the story drastically. It's all background lore or easter egg stuff.
For spoilers sake if you wanted to find them yourself stop here. But if you wanted more direct things to ask...
So far I've found around 50 questions he'll respond to and apparently there's more than that.
Some good questions that I always like to ask if I'm doing a playthrough: "who is marked for death" is a good one, asking about the forest or what's in it have some unfortunate hints about future events, you can ask about his family, asking "What do you think of x" the only character he'll have a unique response to is Roswell. You can ask about the medals to find out just how many there are to find.
Finally, the only ones I've found that changes dialogue or effects the story so far.
"Do you like rabbits?"
"Can you tell me a story?"
It adds a small bit of dialogue to Tysons day 10 and for every route adds something extra to day 13.
And I always finish the interview off with "Can I thank you?"
Someone give me a clue on what day the password is given to avoid Dean's bad ending? I've been trying to get it out for a month and I can't anymore
The password is given to you during his bad ending. If I remember right, the word gets repeated at least a couple of times towards the end.
So just look for a word that sticks out, or pay attention to Dave since he'll point them out in some way. And a good rule to follow is don't look too hard, most of them are just hidden in plain sight if you're not skipping dialogue.
Does anyone know how Grizz is doing?
20th grizz mentioned on patreon his IRL stuff is in the middle of settling and there'll be a ''password in 2022'' plan outline later on so probably with the february patreon update.
Is there any way to put the game in Spanish?
There is no other language supported except English. A Spanish translation has been requested and is being considered for full release.
Eso seria maravilloso, muchas gracias por la informacion :3
To my knowledge no, and if Grizz is going to do official guides they would probably come afterwards like inbetween password and its sequal. That would give him some free time to do guides and any extra polish that he wanted to do. But that would be up to Grizz.
Not really. But if you search around reddit and other sites you should find most of your answers. Also, if you want to know what each choice does to the future dialogue you can go into settings and make sure you do not skip unseen text (it should be this way by default). Then you just go back to the last dialogue and skip what you can and read the rest. That's what I did but I had to wipe all the saves from %appdata% so its fresh and the game doesnt know what text you read. Just keep in mind that doing that is like a reformatting. Youll have to re read everything all over again unless you remembered your chocies and enabled skip unseen text.
As for the talk with Hamond where you can ask him any question, whatever you ask him wont have an impact on the game, and I do believe Grizz has not programmed in any text that will give us clues or confirm our own suspicions of what is going on. So over all, youre not missing much.
I'm curious about this as well. 🤔🤔🤔
Not yet. As some are buggy or incomplete.
When you say "end of the romance arc" does that mean it'll be like on day 13 Grizz?
It means the dating sim part is effectively done with Dave having a boyfriend (or not) going into the next part of the game.
Now seems like it's time for the mystery and horror to take more of a center stage while we get to try and keep everyone alive.
That's what I thought. It's going to be interesting in the coming days. 😃😃😃😃
will someone mind telling me if there are new passwords. I know of the first 3. Dean's, the butler, and Sal's. But i need to know if new ones have been added i havent played in a while
yes
Is there no Patreon build for this month ?
If you're a patreon you should have seen the previous patreon post saying no build for us because grizz is busy with real life stuff.
Oops, my bad. All I remember reading briefly is the "no build" back in November.
Either way, I hope life is gentle on Grizz. Wish him the best.
Hey I keep getting a bad end for dean what am I doing wrong
You need to find passwords in the text and use them at the vault before the bad event happens. The one your after is in the bad ending and is related to the bad ending.
n o w I can't figure out password to save Benson to figure out how to save LOL I've tried everything I could think of I know it has to do with a type of firearm
n o w I can't figure out password to save Benson to figure out how to save LOL I've tried everything I could think of I know it has to do with a type of firearm
Benson needs multiple passwords. Each are found in the bad endings. Using one will lead to a new chain of events on day 8 and the next password will be in the new chain of events.
There is something on Hoss's route on day 7 that helps with day 8 and allows to avoid one of the passwords. Think it happens on Orlando's route too but once you know the right password it will work on every route, day 8 is a universal one.
There are toooo many good things to say about this VN, and not enough space to do it UwU but I'd really like to say how well Tyson is written :3 I had a friend EXACTLY like him :| like, they're scarily similar! xD the character is really well nailed~
And taking about being well nailed~ ;p I know every1ne has already said this, but was really looking forward to that shnushnu scene in particular :(
But otherwise, there really isn't anything else like this out there! ^^_ it's so original, and has come such a long way since those earlier days when my heart was broken by what happened to Dean involving the 1irst password QwQ excellent VN all 'round~
Btw, what's written on Hoss's shirt? I can only confidently make out the "Wa" and "No" particles ^///^"
Tysons shnushnu https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094
Ah ^^, I saw this in the comments xou made below. Much thankx! :D I'm sure it's going to be delicious~ ^///^