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As a game, this is great and it is thought provoking.  My feelings on this are obviously going to be different from yours, though.  Trying to fit in with your friend does not fit the definition of coercion.  If you are uncomfortable in a situation it's your responsibility to bail.  You did as much of a disservice to your friend by consenting, because some guys are not very adept at understanding body language and double meanings.  When you say yes but you clearly mean no, that is going to be a huge problem for someone who already expressed to you that they have trouble with just this sort of thing!

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Thanks for your feedback! Some clarifications: They were not a man.  They did not express that they had any trouble with body language and double meanings. There is more to the story here, which the game doesn't get into. An example of a time when people say 'yes' to sexual contact which is coersive would be if there was abuse involved or fear of punishment in some form. I have been around people who make sure to get verbal consent (for non-sexual assault situations) through intimidation and fear, and then use that verbal 'consent' as a gaslighting tool.

I would categorise that friendship as abusive. This person knew exactly which boundaries to walk right up to, and which they could cross. I don't think they planned on me waking up. "uncomfortable in a situation" etc is a far cry from "woke up to sexual assault".

I would say that it is not always the responsibility of someone to bail when they are uncomfortable - purely because some people cannot bail when they are uncomfortable. There's a great book called 'Ask: Building consent culture" which talks about this, and a famous book about date rape called "I never called it rape" by Robin Warshaw which is based around this issue too.  Recommended reading if consent is an issue you want to explore!

Thanks for playing though, this is great feedback and I'm glad that conversations about consent are happening around this game.

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Oh also! You might benefit from looking at the definitions of consent and coercion on this website: https://www.yesmeansyes.com/consent

"Consent is a mutual verbal, physical, and emotional agreement that happens without manipulation, threats, or head games.

Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well.

Consent is also mutual (both people have to agree) and must be continuous. You can stop at any time, you can change your mind, and just because you said yes to one thing doesn’t mean you have consented to anything else."

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Thanks for replying!  You know, you make some really valid points and I feel really ill-equipped to debate this with you any further, nor would I want to because I now find myself thinking about this a lot differently.  You seem to have devoted a lot of time not only to processing your experience but also evidently giving the subject a scholarly treatment.  Thanks for making such an interesting and intruiging game, and for also taking the time to discuss the sensitive subject it covers.

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No problem! I like having these kind of conversations and I'm always happy to talk about consent stuff. Thanks for taking the time to interact and leave your feedback, much appreciated. 

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Omg...I want to cry reading this....It's so strengthening for me. 

"Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well." Okay some tears were shed...But it's because of feeling like "finally someone gets it" There was no consideration for you nor I in these real life circumstances we were placed in, and that's what draws hatred in me....Also, I find it odd how they were both (possible) girls from what you comment states...? Maybe I'm being too honest, but I feel like it with how you were so honest with so many here. And getting that recognition I seek on this backplaced memory that plagues my mind. Much love for you dear ♡, I will follow you for support.