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A new take on a classic idea, Fantasy World is roleplaying Powered by the Apocalypse for the 2020s. · By Alessandro Piroddi

The Knight Questions and Feedback

A topic by Alex Leone created Jul 17, 2021 Views: 96 Replies: 19
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Under the A Knight In Shining Armor move:

What does my words are beyond doubt or language mean? I’m not familiar with the phrase “beyond doubt or language.”

In Aegis of Valor:

I would change the trigger to:

When you put yourself in Harm’s way to protect someone else from harm >>

That way, it’s clear why you’re taking harm when you take it after you roll.

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In Burning Faith:

The phrase “on a 1 to 1 basis” is a little awkward. I might change the sentence to something like:

When you Brawl you can spend XP to pick additional options from the list, 1 XP per option.

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fixed :)

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In Ever Onward:

What does it mean for anyone to “believe in your charisma”? I understand “believe in your values” (although it seems a little mind-control-y: can the Knight make someone who strongly believes in the opposite values, also believe in theirs?). But I’ve never heard anyone say that they “believe in [someone’s] charisma.”

Thanks!

EDIT: Actually, related question: Do “your values” mean “your absolute values”? After reading the entire class, it seems ambiguous to me. That is, if your absolute value is “I never deceive others,” do the NPCs now believe that they should never deceive others too?

Developer(+1)

fixed...

now on 10+ they believe in your ideas

this should fix the doubt

as per the "charisma" part... it means that they might or might not believe in your ideas (probably not) but they follow you nonetheless because of the strength of your personality aura... your charisma... in you...

So while with 10+ you changed their moral compass and inner beliefs, with 7-9 you just persuaded/charmed them. They might do the right thing because you ask them to, but not because the believe/understand that this is right.

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I love “they believe in your ideas”! That’s super clear now.

Got it! That makes sense what “believe in your charisma” is supposed to mean. I might change it to something like, “they believe in you” or “they believe in your strength of personality” or “they believe in your words” or something. That is, they trust you, but because you seem trustworthy, not because what you’re saying seems right to them.

Thoughts? Not sure which one captures what you were going for best. :)

Developer

fixed :)

In I Am The Law:

I would change the trigger to something like:

When you make your verdict known

“Emit” is a really strange word to use with “verdict,” and it makes me think twice about what I, as the Knight, should be doing.

Developer

mmm... no?
Maybe the other person was not about to suffer "harm" but somehow still needed protection... what matters is that the Knight is putting themselves in harm's way to do whatever they are attempting to do.

(I think this reply got on the wrong post.)

Ah, I got it! The “in Harm’s way” is why you take Harm no matter what you roll.

It still seems strange to me, with the Aegis of Valor move as written, that I could protect someone from danger that doesn’t threaten to harm them, but I still need to take harm myself. Also: on a 6-, the person I’m protecting takes harm anyways, which, as written, makes me think that there was harm about to “befall them” before I jumped in.

I’m having trouble thinking of any situation where the move would make sense, where the person I’m defending isn’t in harm’s way. Do you have a situation in mind? Maybe that could help me figure out why the move trigger is confusing to me. Thanks! :)

Developer

One example could be...

A fight breaks up and, before anything substantial could actually happen, the Knight declares their intention to keep the cute NPC safe.

Both fictionally and mechanically no harm was directed at the NPC. Yet. So the Knight is using the move proactively to prevent any chance of that. On a 10+ they are safe. On a 7-9 they are protected but still in danger. On a 1-6 something that COULD have happened is now actually going to happen. Ouch.

Another example...

The cure NPC is being grossly catcalled and harassed by two big sailors. The Knight disapproves and steps in, acting both physically and verbally as a shield.

Depending on the sailor's reaction the harm to the Knight will probably be Nasty, were harsh words and threatening posturing could put them in a "problematic position"... or maybe a sudden shove could make them lose an important item, or get cornered, or fall on their ass, or whatever else makes sense in the circumstance.

In the same way, harm to the NPC would plausibly be Nasty and look like emotional distress, or rage, or shame, or whatever fits the circumstances and could result in a Nasty Effect :-)

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fixed
I guess it was an "italianism" as in legalese jargon we say "emettere la sentenza" a lot :)

Italianisms are great! :D Today I learned something. :)

In Paragon:

I would change the last sentence of the move to something like this:

Betraying any one of them is the same as betraying all of them, and causes you to lose all their powers until you atone.

Just to clarify that you can still get them back if you atone.

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Fixed :)

In Quest:

I would change the second bullet point to:

If you complete the quest both in deed and in spirit, mark Growth.

Saying “in practice” makes it sound theoretical. “In deed” gets at the fact that you actually did something, in the world! :D

For clarity, I’d also add at the end:

you also betray your absolute value or values.

Since you can have more than one absolute value. I know this isn’t necessary, I just think it would be clearer.

Thanks! :)

Developer(+1)

fixed :)

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What does my words are beyond doubt or language mean? I’m not familiar with the phrase “beyond doubt or language.”

It's a poetic way to mean that when the Knight speaks it is impossible to doubts their words: this could mean that people trust that they are true and correct, but might also mean that it's impossible to misunderstand them.

Also, when the Knight speaks the language barrier is no issue. Their meaning is always conveyed, one way or another.

That sounds very cool! The meaning is extremely unclear from the phrase “beyond doubt or language.” Maybe something like, “my words are impossible to doubt and are understood in all languages”? Something clearer, at any rate.