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I completely understand what you mean and already saw other people saying the same thing but if i did get a job I won't have the time or the energy for a hobby especially for one as demanding as this

so my options are either slave away at an office job at a random company with my computer science degree and be guaranteed to make money or do something I'll be able to enjoy and make stuff that I can be proud of but won't know for sure if it'll ever make me money

the reason I made this post was hoping to see if mabye i have a chance, and by chance I mean that if I finish this game it can sell 5 to 20  copies the cost of 1$ to 5$ i don't really know what the reasonable amount would be, or if im delusional for thinking that

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or do something I'll be able to enjoy
I won't have the time or the energy for a hobby especially for one as demanding as this

Did not sound to me, as you enjoy creating games. If you were enthusiastic about it, you would just finish the game and not ask for advice on the internet if you should do it.

You seem to make something like that:

https://itch.io/games/top-sellers/tag-roguelike/tag-top-down-shooter

If you filter for paid, you will see, that only 60 of those 80 games ever sold anything.

To guess how many sales were made, you might look at the ratings and the followers. You can also guess by looking at https://itch.io/games/on-sale . That will not tell you how many sales the game makes overall, but it will tell you a general magnitude.

So, you should be able to guess what a hypothetical game might generate. Just look at a similar game. The problem is, that you do not know if you would be able to create such a game. And more importantly, if you would be able to successfully market it to the people willing to pay for the game. The market for games is saturated. Creating a game is not enough.

If you have never created a game, you do not even know if you can do it. That is not a textbook homework in coding. Even if you toiled away for months from morning to night, the result might be ... just not be any good. At least not in a way, that people would be willing to pay for it.

You are on Itch. Have a look at game jams. And finish a few games, before you decide to try doing this full time. Or even as a hobby. You did not even finish your first game. That really does not sound to me, like you really enjoy game making.

I did enjoy working on it but still it was a hassle and there's so many other things I enjoy more that I rather be doing but I 1000% would rather be making games then working an office job even if I'll be making alot less money but the question is if I'll be making money at all

and I get what you mean I know that i shouldn't be even thinking about making money before I finished multiple games and I know that im not special and that im even still in the 80% of people that haven't even finished a game but im at the age and point in my life where I need to have an income source of any kind, bec life won't wait for my ass to keep experimenting and trying new things, I was just hoping to find something i can do for a living that won't make me hate me life

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Well. Most people on Itch are hobby developers and struggling developers. The people that make enough money to have this as their full time job are rarely talking in this message board.

And game developer is basically an office job. Even if you work from home, because you have no office, because you are unemployed self employed.

I suggest you try reading about experiences of non indie game developers. Not about success stories of small developers gone viral. I talk about the regular people that are employed by medium to big game studios. I would guess their work is just about the same as that of any other person that works in an office on a computer.

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I'm going to be very honest. Living independently usually requires many more hours and energy than an office job. The mistake many people make is thinking they'll develop a fun hobby and that it will turn into money. When you really want to earn money, that hobby usually becomes a job, and a more demanding one at that.

I don't know what country you live in, but generally, if you're self-employed and you don't want to work one week, no one is going to cover those hours. That's money you'll lose, it's that simple. And when you have to force yourself to work and meet goals and deadlines, you lose a lot of the fun.

Some people have no problem with that and are happy doing what they do, but it depends on the person. In my experience, if you have to ask around, chances are you're not that type.

If you really want me to tell you something... So, you should know that video games are an ultra-saturated market, full of people like you (and with the arrival of AI, the number of independent developers has skyrocketed) who are creating their games with the intention of making a living from it. The harsh reality is that for every success story, there are hundreds (if not thousands) of failures.

As others have mentioned, it's a lottery. But you're young and you have time to try.

thank you for being honest.

but i don't really think so, for a normal job takes 8 hours a day for example, I will have to spend these 8 hours there even if there isn't anything to do I'll have to waste those 8 hours there regardless, but working alone i could get so much stuff done in like 3 hours and take the rest of the day off if I want it all depends on me

I live in egypt and idk if things work differently in other countries but if i don't go for a week i wouldn't get paid for it, i worked once in a place kinda similar to an internet cafe didn't have the weekends off and was only allowed 3 days a month that I can not go and would still get paid

and yeah maybe idk, sorry I've just been spending too much time in my own head I wanted to get anyone else's opinion other then my own 

I understand how saturated the market is and thinking about it is what made me lose motivation to work on my game but I can't think of anything else that I can do for a living that won't make me want to stop living 

and I don't really know about me being young, my parents makes it seem like my life is over if I don't start making money right this second, they really want me to start saving up so in the future I'll be able to start a family