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'Again, implies they don't belong in THIS game.' No, once again it does NOT imply that. I also mentioned that it does sort of fit in the story given the world that was created. ('It sort of matches the world setting, so I can sort of understand why it's there in this case.') You are completely changing the narrative to fit your flawed logic. The statement is 'it could be it's own game' and it certainly could be. No buts or ifs about that.

'You're claiming the futa and femboy characters weren't designed to be futas and femboys from the get go? Prove it.' => Again, changing the narrative entirely. That is not what I claimed and you know it. Don't try to "read between the lines" when there is nothing there to read.

'Just toggle all the LGBT stuff, that would be "fair" after all. I like how you completely ignore the example I use of "turn the gay man into a woman."' => It's a game with customisable options. You're telling me you NEVER change the protagonist or NPCs in ANY game when they are customisable? You play with every character and setting set to 'default' because that's how it was created? I bet you changed the MC's name in this game, you hypocrite. Stop making up these braindead arguments that hold no water...

'What expectations? Phoenix is on the Itch page.' => Phoenix is, so many of the others are not.

'And yes, asking for a toggle/alternatives objectively means seeing them is bad/not wanted. It's basically an arachnophobia toggle. But, you know, for futa hermaphrodites and femboys.' => I suppose you are sort of correct (for once). Seeing it kills my boner and makes me physically gag at times. (Usually when I go in not knowing.) Again: 'It's a physiological response for a reason.' Do I want the content gone though? Of course not. It has every right to exist and you can't judge people's preferences and likes/dislikes. (A rule you should maybe apply yourself btw) That's why, as I've said before, the best option is usually a toggle. Or an option along the lines of 'do you want this character to use image set 1,2, or 3?' This serves everybody. Everybody gets their preferred choice. Both the 90+% of players and the <10% of players. There is no mental gymnastics or downplaying anything. All I'm saying is most people would appreciate more options. This is just a factual statement. I don't understand why you insist on arguing against something that obviously benefits all parties...

'It being optional isn't enough though, they don't want the characters to be in the game at all. They want the characters to be toggleable.' 🤔Can I maybe advise you to read this back a few times. 'They don't want it to simply be optional; they want better control over how the being optional works.' => Yeah? What's wrong with that exactly? 🤨

For the record, I wasn't really going to bring this up, but since you seem to be fixating on this whole 'LGBT' stuff so much... There are trans people in my friend group. Some I hang out with every other week. Others I play games with 2-3 times a week. And don't get me started on how many are gay/bi... I have no qualms with them, nor do I want them gone. That's just all in YOUR head. You are wanting them gone, or rather, you are wanting me to want them gone so you feel better for berating me... somehow. Well too bad because I don't.

P.S. I love how you, yet again, avoided answering the questions I asked you. What kind of mental gymnastics are you pulling off every time to avoid taking any sort of accountability for your actions? 🙃

Are you two ever going to stop this argument? 😅

At the end of the day, Kal decides what goes in the game and what does not (as previously stated by Dr.Muramasa).

  • There will be no new futa/femboy characters added. Existing ones may receive additional events, and there might be a few extra background characters, but nothing beyond that. The player is never forced to engage with these characters and will only miss out on the related futa/femboy content.
  • There will also be no official toggle. The game will stay open to the modding community if anyone wants to create their own.

That’s the full situation.

Hello there,

Both of you need to stop this comment line as it seems you both have an opinion and are not going to get to an agreement or understanding. The content will remain as IS, no changes and no alternate versions, all such content that is causing such discussion is fully optional.