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Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry6 days ago

EBS: Since I cannot reply to your comment due to the stupid cloudflare check, the following:

From the TURBO_DocsV2.15.Asc included in the lha archive:

CONGRATULATIONS!

You have purchased the most powerful AMOS language extension

available. etc etc

AND

Please do not give copies of TURBO to anyone.

I spent many, many long hours working on this and I think I'm justified

in earning a fair wage for it.

AND

Guess how many Manuel André's there are in Belgium?

1 just ONE!

Even stoopid Facebook finds me in a blink of an eye!

AND

http://aliensrcooluk.com/public/Amiga_AMOS_extlist.html

Version 2.0 is a bogus version by the traitor Ryan Scott, this info can be found in the first paragraph of the V2.15 docs.

The version posted on Aminet is also bogus since it is just a demo.

So almost any version (99+%) of the Amos or AMOSPro_TURBO_Plus.Lib V2.15 has been cracked, spread and is used without my consent and is not even mentioned in the credits!

ELECTRIC BLACK SHEEP6 days ago

Understandable!

There is also writing in the same document that "I'm planning to release TURBO Plus in the PUBLIC DOMAIN.."

Ok I understand that planning is not the same as really doing it, but it can lead to misunderstandings like this. I do not even know who is writing it (you or the "traitor" you mentioned). There is so many versions. I don't want to go in that direction.

again: the misuse of this plugin was not intentional. I want to use it legally, but here we are and i still don't know how can i have your product using legally! Can you offer a solution?

You are the man behind the product!

- I possible please give your consent to use the plugin.

- If it is purchaseable in any way or form please give me the direction.

- ..other solution?

Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry6 days ago

"Planning" is NOT a certitude and it was never released into the PD.

Also from the docs written by me: "Since Manuel ANDRE is the only programmer involved with this package, he retains the rights to sell or distribute it without further notice."

You are using V2.15 and the docs are very clear about it.

I see that you understand my position and my request not to spread my extension(s) and that also includes the Amos/Pro PowerBobs extension.

1) So: you may not include my extensions in any format or any of your distributions, games, whatever...
2) This implies that you can only spread compiled versions of the programs that use any of my extensions.
3) Crystal clear and visible credit(s) must be included that your program uses any of my extension(s)
Something like "made possible using Manuel André's [extension name + version ] but you'll figure out something nice.

I hereby give you the permission to use my extensions if you follow the 3 simple rules mentioned above.

And oh yeah, I just made this itch account to be able to communicate with you.

Kind regards,

Manuel André J.S. de Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry de DonRoy (or in short Manuel André)

Kapellekuilstraat 16 B1
2340 Beerse
Belgium

email: andre.manuel.j.s@gmail.com

ELECTRIC BLACK SHEEP6 days ago

I'm glad that we could settle this issue! Thank You!

The next publicly available version will contain your credit.
Does that mean that we are allowed to use any of your (AMOS) plugins or just this one in question? (with the 3 rules you asked of course)
We (possibly others as well) are still interested in a legal version. Is it available?

Again: Sorry for the complications!

Best regards: EBS

Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry6 days ago

Does that mean that we are allowed to use any of your (AMOS) plugins or just this one in question?

- Yes, ANY of my extensions for Amos and or Amos Pro as long as you or any other user has my consent.
- The cracked Amos/Pro_TURBO_PLUS 2.15 or any other version and PowerBobs (any version) automagically becomes legal when my consent is given and my 3 simple rules are followed.

1) So: you may not include my extensions in any format or any of your distributions, games, whatever...
2) This implies that you can only spread compiled versions, full or demos, of the programs that use any of my extensions.
3) Crystal clear and visible credit(s) must be included that your program, full or demo, uses any of my extension(s)
Something like "made possible using Manuel André's [extension name + version ] but you'll figure out something nice.

Predseda5 days ago (1 edit)

Thank you for clarification and allowing us Amiga gamers to have this brilliant game again, including parts based on your great extension. We also added you to game credits on Lemonamiga.com

Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry4 days ago (2 edits)

Thank you! Very much appreciated!
And now I'm going to visit Lemonamiga.com to see what it is all about...

Found out that the "List Games/Credited" that uses one of my extensions is not correct.

Another 2026 game produced by Michael Kafke "FreakOut" also uses my AmosPro extensions (both of them) with my consent.

Just fyi.

Predseda4 days ago

Corrected!

Roelants de Wyneghem de Grand Ry3 days ago (2 edits)

Wondering how many games and or utilities use one or both my extensions.

At least 1 other utility uses My Turbo_Plus extension:

- on github cbmeeks/TurboPlusSceneEditor

Also sometimes my Amos/Pro Turbo Plus extension is spread as the "Craft" or the "Craft2" bogus extensions programmed by me, Manuel André.

- AMOS_extensions on exotica.org wiki/Amos_Extensions

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