Post by QueenOfCalcium in Most of the shit in 0.9.0b straight up does not work.

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QueenOfCalcium7 days ago (1 edit) (+8)(-14)

This version is a PLAYTEST, as in being made to be TESTED by being PLAYED, my problem with this version is that it's damn near fucking impossible TO TEST because the majority of the mechanics are busted to the point that you can't fucking PLAY it. Dr. Nose keeps adding shit and breaking more shit to the point it's becoming more and more and more difficult and tedious TO PLAYTEST. THAT was supposed to be my point with this.

I am aware 0.8.2 still exists and is far more playable and stable than this version, and is much more fun to play than this buggy broken mess but just ignoring THIS version and NOT complaining about the shit that's WRONG with it won't fix the problems WITH this version, as with literally everything, if no-one complains about an issue then that issue won't be addressed and fixed. If a game has a major bug or broken feature and nobody complains about it, then the dev won't change it and everyone will just have to suffer through dealing with the broken and bugged out bits.

Lali_Nidelathema6 days ago(+7)(-13)

No one ever said this build was made for being played.
You think testers test games by playing them? How foolish are you? Did you ever look up what QA is?
You're just trying to gaslight yourself into thinking this is the stable release when it's not, it's a test build. Not a play build.
I think devs should make them private cause people are just too dense.

Evan8586 days ago(+5)(-2)

I... yes, I do think this build was made for being tested. It is quite literally called "potentially BROKEN and UNSTABLE shadow TEST for TESTING by TESTERS". Like the entire OG post was overly hostile, but this comment flabbergasted me. Testers.... test the game

MrKaktusPL6 days ago(+3)(-3)

Yes, yet the main point was the playing part... even what you texted now doesnt say anyway its playable in any kind. Why the drama, vesper wants clear feedback what works and what doesnt and with time he will ubdate it like always.in the meantime we can all enjoy the working version. He didnt force us into the shadow test.

Evan8585 days ago(+1)(-1)

I'm a little confused, sorry. I'm not the OP and have no stakes in this conversation at all. I replied to the comment above because it confused me and it was just flat wrong. I am not sure if you're speaking to me or someone else, but you replied to me and I don't understand because I didn't say anything about drama or being forced to play.

MrKaktusPL5 days ago(+2)

No no sorry, i clicked wrong xdd it was meant for the original post. That is on me :3

Jooj014 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-3)

No.

There are multiple Forms of tests and testers

In game development its not just The playable state that is important. As of The game right now, The shadow build in question, is not playable . It was made to test New mechanics, physics, Graphics implementations, AI behavior, Map stability, and overall consistency of game content.(to check if all flags are being activated and such)

QA testers test The completed project fully to check if The entire project and vision of the Game is working as intended. But as Everybody knows VOTV aint complete yet... So this fallacy of "testers, test the Game by playing" is flat out wrong... Imagine if all testers did that during development of a game?

Imagine The waste of time waiting for all testers to play a game that it has content that needs to be activated by putting hundreds of hours into the game and still missing, for an example, an event?

The game would never get out of development hell

In short... No, This isnt a version to play and enjoy. This version is literally a work In PROGRESS meant to show New ideas, mechanics and etc for The other guys in The team to "spark" creativity and create content.

I agree with The guy above me. These shadow builds should be private because of all The behavior of the community that isnt helping in any way The development of the Game.
Edit: Addendum: You arent forced to play the shadow version. You can choose not to do so. And if the warnings werent enough for you dont forget that Actions have consequences. Be mindful of that

Evan8584 days ago (1 edit) (+1)(-1)

I am not trying to argue with you, nor did I say that this was meant to be played by the general audience. But you just said this "It was made to test New mechanics, physics, Graphics implementations, AI behavior, Map stability, and overall consistency of game content.(to check if all flags are being activated and such)". So... like okay, I believe you. But that's kinda what I was implying? Testers....test stuff...

But regardless, I am not knowledgeable in game dev, so I will dip out of this convo.

Jooj014 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-1)

Yes.. Testers test stuff. Its implied in the name. What are they testing for? Thats the real question. Every assignment has an aim.
Also Testers dont make a 60 line text complaining about the bugs and features and broken stuff they find, in a General Discussion Forum of the game.
REAL TESTERS Document bugs, Unintended Features and anything unusual they find during their gameplay and in the end, they make a little addendum with their ideas and suggestions and send all that to the Dev. Thats what Testers Do.
BUt playing a TEST version of the game and expecting a finalized product experience its kinda unfair isnt it?
In game development when you have a PLAYABLE game it means its somewhat fun and engaging experience...
So, the shadow build? Unplayable.... Play at your own risk of getting a bad experience and if you want to help, Please play it report all the bugs you found, document them and put them in the forms DrNose set it up for THIS occasion in particular.(its Enforced by the dev thats why he released the Test version for the public)
Dont be a self entitled jackass like OP. Contribute, be kind and concise. Help the development of your beloved game..
Its like raising a child.. You wont beat its ass for every mistake they make unless you want to repeat the same mistakes some parents do with their offspring.

Evan8584 days ago (1 edit) (+2)(-1)

I... I'm sorry, man, but I am genuinely confused about how any of my comments or replies could be mistaken for being self-entitled or being a jackass. Nothing in this post coming from me has been me demanding anything of the devs, just being confused on this whole subject. And you helped correct me, so... I don't under the hostile third degree? But whatever man, like I said, I'm dipping from the convo, appreciate the insight but jeez.

Jooj014 days ago(+1)(-2)

Thats alright. A Lot of people confuse ''Playing'' In the Ludic sense as to ''Test''
For some people, Testing and playing its fun... Its like a virtual glorified treasure hunt.(For me, playing and testing and finding bugs and broken things its fun for other people its not)
When you ''play'' a game, you expect it to work as intended with all the mechanics, game world and balancing to be nice and tidy.. But this isn't the case. In this case. playing this particular version of the game, would ruin your expectancy on the game. No wonder the Dev dully noted that its BROKEN,SHADOW,TEST in Uppercase... He probably knew what would happen.
There's a BIG difference between Playing a game and testing a game but for some people doing both is fun.

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FoxSnouts4 days ago(+2)

Oh boo-hoo, a free video game that is being worked on by a small team with like, 3? people coding it put out a TEST build that's buggy. Cope!

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