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Nah, It was already mentioned during the conversation in a resturant between Him, Ayase, Yuka, & Her. After he find out his sister were in a bad state and want to thank her for protection Yuka. So, he invited her and that's how they talk about what happened.

(It's just you, who missed that part).

Also, game is not ruined it's up to decide who you want to love or not. I know she is a sex worker but just look at her situation or how she is living. If you can't love her then atleast be a friend who can support her.

Even, I was not happy and who would be? Life is not same for everyone. That's the reality.

SafeForSure31 days ago(+5)(-4)

You are wrong because I trusted the dev to have proper tags on their Patreon pages. So they take my money every month then they add this crap. Also when I heard from another dev on a forum about the "technical not NTR" they had planned out for Hina I lost all my trust in this game developer. I pay and play games to enjoy myself I don't play games to fix broken whores in games but just to have a escape from every day crap. If they wanted this they should have made it clear and I wouldn't have given them my money.

KaizenVorn30 days ago (1 edit) (+3)(-5)

You should read the message Regarding Chika!

KS: "My game has its own unique audience. So for those who don't like it, you got like at least 1000 other AVNs to try, no need to leave useless hateful comments or reviews about that one thing you don't agree with(the toxic players). Provide some actual feedback please.

Whatever the case is, I stand by the story I’m creating, I don’t really care if some fainthearted players don’t like it because they can’t take it. If they’re not willing to try to see past their own prejudice and judgment, and watch how the story plays out, then I don’t really want them to play my game either. This is clearly not for them.

People will keep talking, while I keep cooking."

SafeForSure30 days ago(+4)(-4)

That is the reason he should use the right tags. Also why are you all over the comment section defending the developer?

Distant100miles16 days ago(+2)(-2)

He is one of the brown noser classic cucks that defend devs who do NTR shit.

SafeForSure16 days ago(+2)(-2)

Yeah he defending this with his life. It's not defendable putting us up with a whore.

Stupid Shadow Gaming5 days ago

Ahem, says the whore.

TheGeeb8124 days ago(+2)(-1)

Not sure if I'm misremembering or not but that conversation mentions how they are rumors. How people SAY she does that.

The definition of rumor is: "a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth."

I.e. possibly false. Something that may not be true at all.

You make it sound like it's a fact that she's a prostitute, when it's not. Rumors can be TRUE OR FALSE. And I'm a firm believer in the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing so I tend to not make judgements without proper evidence, or at the very least keep my judgments light as well as give the benefit of the doubt, and the fact that it is stated as a rumor helps take some of the suspicion away...

Until Chika comes out of a love hotel with a random guy a day or two after her first H-scene...

THAT would be the "until proven guilty" part. It is impossible to deny the evidence your own eyes give you. She comes out of a love hotel... with another guy. Ergo the prostitute rumor is then confirmed to be true.

That wouldn't be as much of a problem IF it was properly built up to. I've mentioned this in a comment I made 2 months ago, but I'll mention it again. I believe those rumors aren't found anywhere else outside of that exact conversation which represents a massive missed opportunity by the dev. Players first see Chika as a goth who is closed off and apprehensive about friendships. When this random "rumor" is then confirmed to be true a day or so after her scene, it blindsides people because they only just discovered it moments ago. Throughout the game leading up to that point, you find NOTHING about that rumor. NOTHING hints that Chika is a "prostitute." It practically doesn't even exist until SHE HERSELF mentions it RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

At the very least characters should've been talking about the rumors throughout the game, which would then allow more of a story buildup as well as an opportunity for the dev to add in hints as to why the quotes around "prostitute" matter instead of the "just trust me bro" excuse that the dev is currently using. That way the players could possibly discover the hints and then build theories around the whole thing. It'd foster engagement in the community instead of discourse like it is now as well as create more trust with the dev overall. Right now all we can do is wait until 0.4 releases and replaying the game right now yields no additional insight into why it's "prostitute" and not prostitute. 0.4 will essentially be the "make or break" update for many people. Resulting in either people forgiving the dev, or a mass exodus away from the game. Plus there's the fact that his trust has dropped in the eyes of many, which I can see resulting in accusations of the dev rewriting Chika's story in some way or another.

Stupid Shadow Gaming5 days ago

No, towards the end of the most recent version, she confirms herself that it is true. She explains the circumstances that got her into such a situation, and the player character offers to help her get a normal job and says he'd rather not see her working like this.

He even helps her confront her dad, and I have a feeling your assistance will bare fruits(meaning she'll get a normal job) in the next update. If not, idrc as I personally am not looking at her as a potential love interest.

I'm assuming in later updates, if you help her, she does eventually stop being a prostitute, but given that's her main issue at this point, I'm not sure how KS will make her story still matter after that.(I mean the message will still matter, but what will her story and conflicts be after she stops?)

TheGeeb815 days ago

Before her H-scene she herself confirms the rumors, that is correct, then an extra layer of proof is added when you see her exit a hotel with a client a little while later. But the conversation that Kaizen was talking about was a conversation between MC, Ayase, Yuka, and Chika in a restaurant, NOT the one between Chika and the MC in the MC's apartment.

This is where the "Not sure if I'm misremembering or not" part of my comment comes in as I haven't replayed that specific conversation (the restaurant one), but I believe that in the restaurant conversation she simply mentions that there are rumors going around school about her. Kaizen, was acting as if at that point in time, those rumors were 100% proven true simply because Chika mentioned them. She basically said something like "people are saying I have sex for money" and Kaizen took that as her pretty much saying "I DO have sex for money. It's 100% confirmed true." Kaizen was then using that as evidence that Chika's "prostitution" was already mentioned when at that specific point it was nothing more than a rumor.

My comment was pointing out how those "rumors" don't exist BEFORE that conversation in the restaurant, when Chika brings them to your attention. NOBODY mentions them UNTIL THAT POINT. Which is one of the reasons why the players are upset as it feels like it comes out of literally nowhere with absolutely zero buildup. When they get to the restaurant and Chika mentions the rumors, the average player (me included) is most likely thinking something along the lines of "Oh, they're just rumors, surely the story will involve us proving that they're false." Only to be severely disappointed when the story then proceeds to double down on the rumors by instantly confirming them to be true a short while later.

Also it's important to note that KS says the quotes around "prostitute" matter, so I don't know what the hell that means.

Stupid Shadow Gaming4 days ago (2 edits)

Yes, Kaizen was talking about that scene in the restaurant. Then you went on to explain what a rumor is and said "It's not a fact" so I sought to correct that.

Y'know, because it is a fact.

But yeah, at that point in time it was unknown. However, it was still mentioned. Also I'm guessing Yuka recounted the flashback word for word so technically both of you know she said "Dangerous people pay to sleep with me" when she saved your sister.

It was actually MC and Yuka who had the doubts and assumed she was simply saying that to scare off the other girls. Chika herself however was honest the entire way through. When she confirmed it later on, it's because she knew you had doubts about what she herself said being true.

Also, that's not exactly something that needs buildup. She said it in a natural situation. Y'know, girls being toxic to other girls about who the latter slept with.

That gets it out of the way, and gives a little insight about why she feels the need to stay away from other people.

And then clearing up lingering confusion and misunderstanding.

Players are actually upset about the fact she's a "main girl" that you can "pursue" and a prostitute.

And some even claim that they didn't know until after the h scene. Which you know isn't even correct.

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