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Wow man. Screaming. Once again, it was mentioned when she was first introduced. Usually in a story whenever a character like her is introduced, they arent lying. That being said, during my personal playthrough, every interaction I had with her, I had that claim in mind. Sure were there doubts? A little. But I didn't put my money on "Oh yeah they're just rumors."

The more interactions she had, the more I learned about her, the more certain I was that it was true.

That's how it was for me. And when she finally revealed it, it was more of a "I mean I already knew that this whole time, but I still want to help you. This isn't all about sex."

Not sure how no one else had that thought process but then again, you're correct. They wouldn't see that or think that, or analyze mc's interactions with her that way because they're all gooners first, rational human beings second. Just saying. No need for the screaming, I just find it odd they all simply brushed that off then got mad that they THEMSELVES decided to brush off a fact that was increasingly obvious as time goes on.

Also, skill issue. There were definitely clues. In the way she acted. The way she held herself. What she would say, and the fact she was so reserved. A lot of which I mentioned in my first response. It wasn't out of nowhere, and it actually had decent buildup. If you couldn't see that build up, then like I said, skill issue.

Sure even if you can argue they didn't know before that scene at mc's apartment, the sex scene still only came as a drunken impulsive offering of sex RIGHT after she literally admits it. Which shows they didn't read it, then proceeded to get upset when they saw her leaving the hotel. Also they should realize that sex, free sex, doesn't mean the girl owes you full exclusivity. Perhaps you should get to know her better AND THEN talk about being exclusive. Or hell, help her to get out of that life? Y'know like the game was getting you to do? Cus it also wasnt even a spontaneous "I don't wanna be with you"

It had always been "I'm not interested in a relationship with you, I actually don't really want to be with you" and it's not at the stage where ANYONE could really think "I picked all the right answers" cus all the "right answers" as of yet have led to you being seen more as a FRIEND. You only met her a week before the end of that chapter as well man, tf.

Truly decent people woulda rejected the sex offering, went to check on her after seeing her at the hotel to see if she was alright, and continued onwards as her friend trying to help her get a better life.

TheGeeb8111 days ago (1 edit)

Few things I wanna clarify. The ALL CAPS are meant as emphasis for important parts of my comments as I tend to struggle when it comes to properly explaining things, thus I put some words in CAPS, bold, underlined, italics, and whatever else I can do to emphasize their importance. Guess I should've used less caps in that reply, my bad. In addition I happen to struggle with social cues, so I guess I'm sorry for not picking up on any subtleties in her conversations? And good for you for doing so. I'm proud of you for that. Pat yourself on the back for that too.

But even then half of that just... Isn't really buildup? She's reserved. So is every shy character, that doesn't mean they're all prostitutes. And the rest of that isn't really any indication either which makes me feel like it's a bit of a stretch. Those can all be descriptors of someone's personality, not exactly their role/job/occupation. That doesn't necessarily indicate/buildup to her being a prostitute. It instead builds up to her actual background (Abusive father, dead mother, bullied, etc)

And for clarifications sake, I declined that offer at the cost of missing a scene in the gallery but ehh whatever, can always replay and get it. And I do completely agree with those last few points though. The hate IS a bit extreme, especially when it isn't necessarily NTR, UNLESS you accept her offer. But then again, this IS an adult game. And USUALLY in adult games picking "yes" to sex IS the right option, unless it's something like "I'd like to stop here." So it's fair to assume that the people getting genuinely upset, made that same assumption and picked "yes" BECAUSE they though it was worth more than saying no. Also I in fact mentioned that the MC was more of a friend in a reply to Comfy Cherry 8 months ago. Around the time of the H-scene the MC is more of a close friend of Chika's, whether or not she really WANTS him to be. But he does know her whole situation/past AND wants to help her so the MC is basically making himself a close friend of hers (cause he genuinely wants to be)

Anyways, it looks like this has the potential to devolve into a string of endless insults instead of actual meaningful conversation so this is my final reply in this thread.

Stupid Shadow Gaming11 days ago (1 edit) (-1)

Except she's reserved not in a shy way. And nowhere did I say anything about her being reserved being telling of her occupation. I guess I coulda worded it better, but I had meant that it made her claim of being a prostitute more plausible the more you talked to her. She says certain things, acts certain ways, etc. And while those alone don't indicate "Oh hey look, a prostitute!"(That would be a very odd way to look at things), that stuff paired with the fact that she even mentioned it in the first place should be enough for you to consider that as a possible truth.

In fact if a character themselves says something about themself, occupational, personal, social, etc. the best thing to do is treat it as true, or as a huge possibility, until proven false. Not the other way around.

Then you can use that along with certain social cues, behaviors and anything else in order to further your reasoning to prove or disprove whether or not it might be true. And do that until you get to a point where you see the character in the act(So you wouldn't be so surprised) or they flat out just tell you and perhaps even present some proof. For example, her talking about her father. She's done that. Did that way before you talk to her after you see her leaving the hotel.

The information she gives you, about how she lives, what her dad does, etc. should've been even more of a reason to believe that it may be true. So yeah, there was a ton of buildup, cues, hints and her flat out saying it to let you know that maybe she really is a prostitute.

Cus obviously she's not just a prostitute cus she likes it. She kind of has to in her situation. Unless you thought she was lying to you about her dad? (Which can't even be a possibility since you literally see first-hand how her dad treats her in that scene right before she sees that the cat followed her home and you offer to let her walk under your umbrella). That being said, as I've said before, tons of cues and hints to the fact she could be a prostitute.

We have:

- Rumors (Not hard proof but that's a start.)

- Behavioral Cues

- Situational Cues

- Circumstantial Cues

- Her literally saying it

And more. To say there was no buildup is just.. incorrect. It wasn't sudden. It was a "show, don't tell" kinda situation.

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