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there are far more important things to focus on. dont bother going around fetish spaces policing what folks can or cant enjoy, you're not going to make any kind of "progress". i implore you to spend your energy on stuff that will actually make a difference... speculating on the possible harm a piece of random fetish content could have doesnt exactly fall in that category.

this is genuinely just fetish stuff, and it isnt for everyone, no, but it doesnt mean its immediately harmful. people have fucked up fetishes. you cant stop that. im a bisexual transgender woman, and sure, yeah, i got some fucked up fetishes, but i wouldnt act on any of it if you paid me a million bucks to do so. this is a healthy way of expressing it, 'n honestly, this is a fairly tame!

johnnyjohnsonlongcock45 days ago (1 edit) (+3)(-7)

But you admit it's fucked up and is offensive to the vast majority of LGBTQ+ people like myself? If so than at least we agree on that core point. And the thing is, just because YOU wouldn't act on it, doesn't mean from the outside, cis people or bigots won't get a bad impression from us. Like we're just a fetish. And this is FAR from tame. Ask any trans and/or nonbinary person outside of the fetish space and tell them about this game and the core demographic of said game and I bet you'd get answers you didn't expect.

And god forbid trans people like myself can find safe spaces when the real world is a steaming pile of dogturd for the vast majority of us. No, just because a select few nonbinary or trans people like this game doesn't make it alright or invalidate most others who see this and immediately cringe in disgust.

Msurikqp7942 days ago(+3)(-5)

Going X fictional media is offensive it should not exist is a slippery slope that leads to LGBTQ being removed entirely, it has happened it will happen and it continues to happen. Look at collective shout for example they want to remove all instances of women and children from gaming entirely and the first step was to try to make it so all adult media gets removed which payment processors easily agreed to.

y1fF3r4u42 days ago (1 edit) (+2)(-4)

Slippery slope has been reached as payment processors have stuck their hands in how Steam does game update process for early access. Adult games in early access now are nearly impossible to update if the developers want to update/add adult content to existing.

johnnyjohnsonlongcock41 days ago(+3)(-4)

Are you cis? Just curious, because sounds to me you care about more if whether or not your fetish porn games are available than the mental health and real life affects it has on the LGBTQT+ community. Could you clarify?

y1fF3r4u41 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-4)

It does not matter what I identify as, though I doubt you will accept that as acceptable.

Payment processors are supposed to be just that: payment processors, not becoming a publisher as well. Not opposing this invasion of Steam means the payment processors will feel comfortable to intrude into other businesses, to decide what can or not be brought. That is censorship.

This quote from Martin Niemoller is very relevant: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.

The payment processors want to control what is or is not brought, not fighting it will lead to catastrophe.

johnnyjohnsonlongcock40 days ago(+3)(-4)

And agreed, I never said they SHOULD have control what is and isn't "acceptable." I'm talking on self-policing and self-reflection, never once have I said that was the way to go.

And actually yes, it DOES matter your identity, because if you're cis than you can't relate to the LGBTQT+ experience and mostly see us as fetish objects, I'd wager. Though bet that 'isn't a big deal' in your opinion.

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