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Oh wow, you really dropped a thesis-length reply this time, but that's absolutely okay and i honestly appreciate that! Now, i'm gonna write my long argument as well to point out your missing points.

First of all, you were already inconsistent with what you've said. You said to the dev like "You clearly don't want to release the Steam version on Itch.io" while that's technically an unfeasible thing to do. Why? Because both version are built on different frameworks, and i already told you why it is impossible to do. Despite some of the art assets may look the same, the mechanics and coding were entirely redone from scratch to fit Steam's requirement. The whole remake is build for Steam version, it's not really like you simply drag and drop the files and BOOM- "TNMN remake is finished within just a few hours and i can put this in Itch.Io as well!"

• "He claimed free indefinite updates of the game. To then "re-release" the game and call it a different game." Nachosama literally stated multiple times that the Itch.io version is already FINISHED. He stated "free indefinite updates" for Itch version, the Steam is another version. TNMN Itch.io version have 3 FREE updates after the og game released, they're Nightmare, Endless, and Campaign Mode. The game ended on Campaign Mode and he decided to remake and expand the game to Steam because he wants to TRY something new and to reach out more people as well. The remake is NOT an update to Itch.io version but most people still failing so hard to understand this. People still complaining about his mistakes and decisions while no developer can predict the future perfectly. He delivered multiple free updates as promised, but as a solo dev, he eventually had to decide how to continue sustainably (and trying to avoid piracy as well). People who treated his mistakes like a "betrayal" really shows that they're ignoring how indie development works. It's his own decision with his OWN game, so plans can change, no matter what.

• "However, if he was set on giving Steam keys for free, that means he had the intention of giving the Steam update for free." No, that's not how game development works buddy. Remake is not always something you can get for free, he still worked hard for that and deserve to get paid. You kept saying it's "Steam update" while in reality that it's a rebuild version. It's also a Steam policy if he can only give 100 keys, not completely his fault, and he already apologized for many times that he didn't aware of that restrictions. It's not up to him how many keys he can give because Steam keys are limited by Valve, not by Nachosama himself.

• "Just tell the fans that there will be no more updates to the game because he's remaking it for Steam with new features." The game itself literally SHOWS that the whole game is already finished, if Nacho still really need to explain it that much, then they're clearly ignoring the progress of the development. I'm gonna explain this through the images below this text.

After reading the whole text, i can conclude that you're just trying to paint Nachosama as dishonest, even when the facts prove otherwise. He's an indie dev who tried to figure things out and worked alone for his game, but people just never understand the struggle of game development and problems that indie devs need to face. He could've update and improve the game more if people here were a bit nicer, but instead of giving constructive criticisms, they didn't even give him a break and decided to backlash him with entitled complaints, who act like they're owed free content forever, which is why he eventually discouraged from continuing TNMN and his other future work.

I'm actually still curious if you're still trying to find another reasons as a counter to justify your arguments. I'm honestly really fascinated that you even wrote a longer text this time, but that doesn't change the fact that all of my arguments are still better and reasonable because i already managed to bring down those who also tried to bring Nachosama down when he was already falling down. I don't even mind if i have to write a really long thesis just to point out your missing points again, because my whole intention was good from the start, trying to defend a developer who's been struggling after all of the backlash and insults he's been facing when he literally didn't deserve all of that disrespect. So go ahead if you still have another argument, i'm still really interested with what you're going to reply this time! 😀👍